Trump cutting funding to South Africa

[Strike 5,553]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

It's amazing anytime someone tries to paint any culture in history as being the "good guys" Humans are a holes.  We always have been and always will be.  We are selfish, violent, and only interested in supporting our own.  That's why laws were created for crying out loud.  Because we learned that people are sh!ts.  Hell, thats why religion was created.  to give people the fear of a bad afterlife or failing some mythical God.  The colonists weren't good people either.  No one is, no one was.   

Yep.  Right now fraudsters are stealing people's identities who lost their homes in the LA fires to apply for those people's FEMA aid.   Humans are sh@t to a large extent. 

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12 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

It's amazing anytime someone tries to paint any culture in history as being the "good guys" Humans are a holes.  We always have been and always will be.  We are selfish, violent, and only interested in supporting our own.  That's why laws were created for crying out loud.  Because we learned that people are sh!ts.  Hell, thats why religion was created.  to give people the fear of a bad afterlife or failing some mythical God.  The colonists weren't good people either.  No one is, no one was.   

Correct.  The problem with Humanity is, well, humans. 

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15 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

It's amazing anytime someone tries to paint any culture in history as being the "good guys" Humans are a holes.  We always have been and always will be.  We are selfish, violent, and only interested in supporting our own.  That's why laws were created for crying out loud.  Because we learned that people are sh!ts.  Hell, thats why religion was created.  to give people the fear of a bad afterlife or failing some mythical God.  The colonists weren't good people either.  No one is, no one was.   

Again mostly agreed. (Damn twice in one morning.) 

My only issue is when you write “the colonists weren’t good people either.” Some were. Some were extremely well meaning. Others were awful. There’s generally good people in every grouping. 

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13 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yep.  Right now fraudsters are stealing people's identities who lost their homes in the LA fires to apply for those people's FEMA aid.   Humans are sh@t to a large extent. 

I don’t believe most people are awful. I may be naive about that I know. But I think most people have good intentions. The bad guys are numerous however, and usually louder. 

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22 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Troll. You are wrong and just seeking attention. You are always wrong in all of your takes. And all you do is repeat them over and over. 

I asked you specific questions to back up your assertion. I don’t think that’s the behavior of a troll. On the other hand, your response…

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6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again mostly agreed. (Damn twice in one morning.) 

My only issue is when you write “the colonists weren’t good people either.” Some were. Some were extremely well meaning. Others were awful. There’s generally good people in every grouping. 

Well no of course not.  Not everyone is a POS.  I'm sure there were true nature loving indians that just wanted to live off the land, raise their families and basically be unbothered.   And those were the ones that usually got overrun too.

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Just now, supermike80 said:

Well no of course not.  Not everyone is a POS.  I'm sure there were true nature loving indians that just wanted to live off the land, raise their families and basically be unbothered.   And those were the ones that usually got overrun too.

If you ever read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee it’s filled with tragic examples of this. Over and over again- peace loving Indian tribe lives next to warlike tribe. The warlike tribe has young braves who raid a white settler, kill the men, rape the women, kidnap the children. The white militia responds by attacking the peaceful tribe and slaughtering dozens of innocent people, men women and children alike. Rinse and repeat. 

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If you ever read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee it’s filled with tragic examples of this. Over and over again- peace loving Indian tribe lives next to warlike tribe. The warlike tribe has young braves who raid a white settler, kill the men, rape the women, kidnap the children. The white militia responds by attacking the peaceful tribe and slaughtering dozens of innocent people, men women and children alike. Rinse and repeat. 

No but it would make sense.  Not knowing the differences between tribes...The clothing, the styles etc...Would seem we would lump them all together,

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1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

No but it would make sense.  Not knowing the differences between tribes...The clothing, the styles etc...Would seem we would lump them all together,

That’s part of it. Another part is that the warlike tribes, like the Comanche, were great warriors and really hard to fight. So the militia had to show they were doing SOMETHING. 
Incidentally, this same story was repeated almost verbatim during our war in Vietnam: the VietCong would strike our troops, then disappear, then we would raid a village in retaliation, not knowing who was who…you get the picture. 

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US AID was funding the BBC

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It's funny to see the same people who cry and call white people invaders and killers are now  calling white people evil for not liking millions and millions of illegals walking through our borders and raping and killing our people. 

This stuff is mind numbing. Liberals don't know WTF they are rambling on about. 

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46 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Troll. You are wrong and just seeking attention. You are always wrong in all of your takes. And all you do is repeat them over and over. 

He does seem to repeat himself 100 times as if that changes the truth.

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42 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

US AID was funding the BBC

Unf@cking believable.  Why doesn't the UK fund their own f'n station?

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

US AID was funding the BBC

BBC is uk state run media. Unbelievable what they were doing 

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20 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

BBC is uk state run media. Unbelievable what they were doing 

Liberals...

[peenie 1,915]

Have you all lost your minds??? Just because the Dutch are trying to convince themselves and you of the lie doesn’t mean it’s the truth. 

Can I move on any uninhabited land in the United States and claim it’s mine just because no one is currently living there? Can I go to Europe and move my family in any empty forest land and claim it’s mine? No, I cannot! Nor can Europeans. Just because they bullied the Native Americans in the western world and the aborigines in Australia and the Palestinians doesn’t mean everyone is going to roll over for them. 

And if they do it, they have to deal with the consequences. 

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13 minutes ago, peenie said:

Have you all lost your minds??? Just because the Dutch are trying to convince themselves and you of the lie doesn’t mean it’s the truth. 

Can I move on any uninhabited land in the United States and claim it’s mine just because no one is currently living there? Can I go to Europe and move my family in any empty forest land and claim it’s mine? No, I cannot! Nor can Europeans. Just because they bullied the Native Americans in the western world and the aborigines in Australia and the Palestinians doesn’t mean everyone is going to roll over for them. 

And if they do it, they have to deal with the consequences. 

Coming from someone who has NEVER studied any history of the world for ANY time frame of history. 

Peenie just hates white people. Pure and simple. The non white people who have conquered nations since the beginning of human life are all good in her book. But white skin? We all are horrible violent people. 

Because she is uneducated. Yes. Sad ending.... 

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14 minutes ago, peenie said:

Have you all lost your minds??? Just because the Dutch are trying to convince themselves and you of the lie doesn’t mean it’s the truth. 

Can I move on any uninhabited land in the United States and claim it’s mine just because no one is currently living there? Can I go to Europe and move my family in any empty forest land and claim it’s mine? No, I cannot! Nor can Europeans. Just because they bullied the Native Americans in the western world and the aborigines in Australia and the Palestinians doesn’t mean everyone is going to roll over for them. 

And if they do it, they have to deal with the consequences. 

I’m going to give you the same answer I gave the MAGA folks: it’s a lot more complicated. Just like @Strike on the opposite side from you on this, you’re trying to simplify things. 
 

For example: contrary to what you implied in your post, black people in South Africa weren’t there before the white people showed up. They came there AFTER the white people. Prior to the 1700s the furthest south black tribes traveled was to Zimbabwe, well north of the South African border. So this notion that the land was stolen from them isn’t true. (It was stolen from the bushmen who don’t exist anymore.) 

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3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Again mostly agreed. (Damn twice in one morning.) 

My only issue is when you write “the colonists weren’t good people either.” Some were. Some were extremely well meaning. Others were awful. There’s generally good people in every grouping. 

And for some reason you think it is good to give an army bureaucrats enormous power over every aspect of our lives with virtually no accountability or oversight.   Human being suck unless there is some consequence to their bad behavior, and we have not done a damn thing in decades to punish truly evil acts by the swamp.   Of course the media covers it up, so you stay in denial.  Our government has gotten way too powerful and it needs massive restructuring to hold them accountable directly to the people.  

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49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

 

For example: contrary to what you implied in your post, black people in South Africa weren’t there before the white people showed up. They came there AFTER the white people. Prior to the 1700s the furthest south black tribes traveled was to Zimbabwe, well north of the South African border. So this notion that the land was stolen from them isn’t true. (It was stolen from the bushmen who don’t exist anymore.) 

Stay in your lane white man. Here you come to defend your people. The San or Khoisan are still alive and who cares what white historians say? Their skin color alone says where they belong. Africa is not their land. If the Zulu weren’t there prior to the Europeans there would be no need for a war.

IDGAF!!! I need only see how the Europeans have conquered the whole planet to know they’re liars, cheaters, stealers and murderers when it comes to taking over land that doesn’t belong to them. Talk to the hand. 🫷 

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@The Real timschochet just got b1tch slapped by a black woman.  

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58 minutes ago, peenie said:

Stay in your lane white man. Here you come to defend your people. The San or Khoisan are still alive and who cares what white historians say? Their skin color alone says where they belong. Africa is not their land. If the Zulu weren’t there prior to the Europeans there would be no need for a war.

IDGAF!!! I need only see how the Europeans have conquered the whole planet to know they’re liars, cheaters, stealers and murderers when it comes to taking over land that doesn’t belong to them. Talk to the hand. 🫷 

I got some bad news for you...all of humanity originated from Africa.  We're all Africans so everyone's "lane" is Africa as well. 

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4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

@The Real timschochet just got b1tch slapped by a black woman.  

Thats all right. She’s entitled. She has a right to be pissed off. 

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1 hour ago, peenie said:

Stay in your lane white man. Here you come to defend your people. The San or Khoisan are still alive and who cares what white historians say? Their skin color alone says where they belong. Africa is not their land. If the Zulu weren’t there prior to the Europeans there would be no need for a war.

IDGAF!!! I need only see how the Europeans have conquered the whole planet to know they’re liars, cheaters, stealers and murderers when it comes to taking over land that doesn’t belong to them. Talk to the hand. 🫷 

What would you say if Trump said to some black lady, "Stay in your lane black lady." ?

 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thats all right. She’s entitled. She has a right to be pissed off. 

Not a real man.  

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Liberals are all racists. 

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7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thats all right. She’s entitled. She has a right to be pissed off. 

Why?  She's wrong.

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4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Why?  She's wrong.

Some of her facts are wrong. Her anger is right. Her distrust of white people, and our arguments, is well warranted. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Some of her facts are wrong. Her anger is right. Her distrust of white people, and our arguments, is well warranted. 

If we were in the 60's, I'd say she can be angry. We are WELL past the Civil Rights Era and have rectified things over the last 60 years.  The anger and distrust are unjustified and are just being held on to because "victim" status means so much to the left. 

It's time to move forward and stop holding onto the injustices of the long past.  They will never be able to move forward as long as they are, well, enslaved to their anger of deeds done by people long gone.

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12 minutes ago, jbycho said:

What would you say if Trump said to some black lady, "Stay in your lane black lady." ?

 

You have pretty much described how he just got elected. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

You have pretty much described how he just got elected. 

Incorrect and non-factual. That's your emotions talking.

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Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

If we were in the 60's, I'd say she can be angry. We are WELL past the Civil Rights Era and have rectified things over the last 60 years.  The anger and distrust are unjustified and are just being held on to because "victim" status means so much to the left.

No. And you have hit the head on one of the main issues I have with the current group of people who call themselves conservatives. You guys aren’t racist (mostly; there are some exceptions) but you think these issues ended with Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Act. They haven’t. 

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1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Incorrect and non-factual. That's your emotions talking.

I was also joking. I’ve offered my serious opinion on why Trump won and that wasn’t it. But he set me up perfectly. 

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1 hour ago, peenie said:

Stay in your lane white man.

Oof seriously 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. And you have hit the head on one of the main issues I have with the current group of people who call themselves conservatives. You guys aren’t racist (mostly; there are some exceptions) but you think these issues ended with Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Act. They haven’t. 

No one believes that.  It ended gradually over the last 60 years.  There might be some things, but not to the level that they all think we're still stuck in the 1850's.  The outrage doesn't meet the supply. 

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30 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You have pretty much described how he just got elected. 

So Peenie has the right attitude. Awesome. 

Even you liberals are seeing the truth. 

1 hour ago, peenie said:

Stay in your lane white man. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

The upward mobility of black people pre-dated the civil rights act. The civil rights act was due to blacks moving up and gaining a place at the countries table.  Liberals like Real Tim would have you believe that any achievements they have gained was due to liberals bestowing it upon them. Such an ignorant bigot.  

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3 hours ago, peenie said:

Stay in your lane white man

So racist 

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South African farmer appealing to president Trump

“Message from a Boer to President Trump.

Please listen and share.”

https://x.com/twatterbaas/status/1887068685421986233?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ

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BREAKING: PRESIDENT TRUMP PLACES SANCTIONS ON SOUTH AFRICA FOR THEIR TREATMENT OF AFRIKANERS AND PROMOTE THEIR REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT TO THE UNITED STATES