Bondi instructs DOJ to criminally investigate companies for DEI

[Mike Honcho 4,954]

ENDING ILLEGAL DEI AND DEIA DISCRIMINATION AND PREFERENCES

This seems a great use of the DOJ resources, going after the hardest of the hard cases. I particularly like that she directs the Civil Rights Division(you know, the one that protects minorities from being discriminated against) to ferret out these criminals who make an effort to expand there hiring pool. I'm sure none of these companies will have a problem being told who they can and can't hire, so worry about the millions and millions of tax payer funds that will be used to defend those potential lawsuits.  

That's what I love about this administration, they always have their eye on the ball, seeing the big picture, not making mountains out of molehills and really digging in and taking care of the most important priorities this nation needs to address.  

[Cdub100 3,776]

25 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

ENDING ILLEGAL DEI AND DEIA DISCRIMINATION AND PREFERENCES

This seems a great use of the DOJ resources, going after the hardest of the hard cases. I particularly like that she directs the Civil Rights Division(you know, the one that protects minorities from being discriminated against) to ferret out these criminals who make an effort to expand there hiring pool. I'm sure none of these companies will have a problem being told who they can and can't hire, so worry about the millions and millions of tax payer funds that will be used to defend those potential lawsuits.  

That's what I love about this administration, they always have their eye on the ball, seeing the big picture, not making mountains out of molehills and really digging in and taking care of the most important priorities this nation needs to address.  

Curious. How are these companies expanding their hiring pool when they are discriminating against certain races and men?

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,675]

Honcho has a job. Sucks for the rest of you qualified white boys. 

[Fnord 1,932]

This bullshit is already being felt in the company I work for. The long-range effects are potentially dire.

I for one am absolutely astonished that MAGA is going along with this, given their eternal fight against government overreach :sarcasm:

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

and just like that lefties are now against civil rights again

 

[squistion 1,842]

41 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

ENDING ILLEGAL DEI AND DEIA DISCRIMINATION AND PREFERENCES

This seems a great use of the DOJ resources, going after the hardest of the hard cases. I particularly like that she directs the Civil Rights Division(you know, the one that protects minorities from being discriminated against) to ferret out these criminals who make an effort to expand there hiring pool. I'm sure none of these companies will have a problem being told who they can and can't hire, so worry about the millions and millions of tax payer funds that will be used to defend those potential lawsuits.  

That's what I love about this administration, they always have their eye on the ball, seeing the big picture, not making mountains out of molehills and really digging in and taking care of the most important priorities this nation needs to address.  

Wait, so DEI hiring can now be criminal? 

[TrailGuy 552]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

and just like that lefties are now against civil rights again

 

Prosecuting people for hiring women and minorities is against civil rights? 

[Fnord 1,932]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

and just like that lefties are now against civil rights again

 

You're FOS. DEI initiatives for my employer are legit. I've hired some spectacular employees due to their cultivation of it. And never, not once have I heard of someone being hired for anything other than merit. I've certainly never done it.

But now the 2-bit fraudster wants to make it criminal? To what end? Cutting off funding? Do y'all understand what's at stake? In my case potentially massive amounts of healthcare research dollars being revoked because our POTUS is an ignorant moron with no concept of long term downstream effects. All so he can claim another pyrrhic victory. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,675]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You're FOS. DEI initiatives for my employer are legit. I've hired some spectacular employees due to their cultivation of it. And never, not once have I heard of someone being hired for anything other than merit. I've certainly never done it.

But now the 2-bit fraudster wants to make it criminal? To what end? Cutting off funding? Do y'all understand what's at stake? In my case potentially massive amounts of healthcare research dollars being revoked because our POTUS is an ignorant moron with no concept of long term downstream effects. All so he can claim another pyrrhic victory. 

Yeah. It never happens.  Right wing conspiracy. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You're FOS. DEI initiatives for my employer are legit. I've hired some spectacular employees due to their cultivation of it. And never, not once have I heard of someone being hired for anything other than merit. I've certainly never done it.

But now the 2-bit fraudster wants to make it criminal? To what end? Cutting off funding? Do y'all understand what's at stake? In my case potentially massive amounts of healthcare research dollars being revoked because our POTUS is an ignorant moron with no concept of long term downstream effects. All so he can claim another pyrrhic victory. 

sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

has me confused with someone who cares if the govt falls apart

 

[Fnord 1,932]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

has me confused with someone who cares if the govt falls apart

 

I don't work for the government, rube. Are you cool with cancer R&D going away on a large scale because of this? The research on the use of AI for complicated diagnoses?

I could go on and on.

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. It never happens.  Right wing conspiracy. 

Jesus Christ, your reading comprehension is abysmal. Link to where I said it never happens? You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Or in turnip's case throw out the unborn fetus with the contaminated groundwater.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,175]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

I don't work for the government, rube. Are you cool with cancer R&D going away on a large scale because of this? The research on the use of AI for complicated diagnoses?

I could go on and on.

Jesus Christ, your reading comprehension is abysmal. Link to where I said it never happens? You don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Or in turnip's case throw out the unborn fetus with the contaminated groundwater.

none of those things will happen, there is too much money involved in it, hell my buddies company spends billions doing cancer research and has nothing to do with the govt

I dont know why you think DEI causes cancer to be cured faster, AI has advanced without the govt or DEI as well, whats you point?

 

[Red White and Blue 81]

I’d be interested in seeing any evidence that government agencies are illegally turning down higher qualified white applicants for positions.

Well?   

[TrailGuy 552]

Just now, Red White and Blue said:

I’d be interested in seeing any evidence that government agencies are illegally turning down higher qualified white applicants for positions.

Well?   

If it's happening they should sue.  They would win bigly,

It's just pure racism.

[kilroy69 1,192]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

ENDING ILLEGAL DEI AND DEIA DISCRIMINATION AND PREFERENCES

This seems a great use of the DOJ resources, going after the hardest of the hard cases. I particularly like that she directs the Civil Rights Division(you know, the one that protects minorities from being discriminated against) to ferret out these criminals who make an effort to expand there hiring pool. I'm sure none of these companies will have a problem being told who they can and can't hire, so worry about the millions and millions of tax payer funds that will be used to defend those potential lawsuits.  

That's what I love about this administration, they always have their eye on the ball, seeing the big picture, not making mountains out of molehills and really digging in and taking care of the most important priorities this nation needs to address.  

You clearly do not understand DEI and the impact it has on hiring. 

 

Just ONE time I would like for someone to tell you that you can hire anyone you like....as long as they are not straight white males. Let's see how much you approve of DEI then. 

[CaptainObvious1 260]

27 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You're FOS. DEI initiatives for my employer are legit. I've hired some spectacular employees due to their cultivation of it. And never, not once have I heard of someone being hired for anything other than merit. I've certainly never done it.

But now the 2-bit fraudster wants to make it criminal? To what end? Cutting off funding? Do y'all understand what's at stake? In my case potentially massive amounts of healthcare research dollars being revoked because our POTUS is an ignorant moron with no concept of long term downstream effects. All so he can claim another pyrrhic victory. 

If you're hiring based on merit, why are you so up in arms?  That's what everyone should do.  Why do you need a DEI buzzword?

[TrailGuy 552]

2 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Just ONE time I would like for someone to tell you that you can hire anyone you like....as long as they are not straight white males. Let's see how much you approve of DEI then. 

You know this is illegal, right?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,708]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

ENDING ILLEGAL DEI AND DEIA DISCRIMINATION AND PREFERENCES

This seems a great use of the DOJ resources, going after the hardest of the hard cases. I particularly like that she directs the Civil Rights Division(you know, the one that protects minorities from being discriminated against) to ferret out these criminals who make an effort to expand there hiring pool. I'm sure none of these companies will have a problem being told who they can and can't hire, so worry about the millions and millions of tax payer funds that will be used to defend those potential lawsuits.  

That's what I love about this administration, they always have their eye on the ball, seeing the big picture, not making mountains out of molehills and really digging in and taking care of the most important priorities this nation needs to address.  

Isn't the DOJ supposed to go after criminals and law breakers?

DEI is de-facto racist practice which, of course, is against the law.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,708]

50 minutes ago, Fnord said:

This bullshit is already being felt in the company I work for. The long-range effects are potentially dire.

I for one am absolutely astonished that MAGA is going along with this, given their eternal fight against government overreach :sarcasm:

 

Respectfully, conservatives have always been on the side of prosecuting criminals.

And, just to be clear, every time the government does anything we always seem to get the "I thought conservatives were against government overreach / big government" reply.  It's kind of a tired and misused response, like everything else.

[RLLD 4,117]

I think we can all get behind the ending of any discrimination.   Great move.  

[Cdub100 3,776]

47 minutes ago, Fnord said:

This bullshit is already being felt in the company I work for. The long-range effects are potentially dire.

I for one am absolutely astonished that MAGA is going along with this, given their eternal fight against government overreach :sarcasm:

 

Your company can hire all the 400lb black trans furry Xers they want. Nobody is stopping you or the company. 

[kilroy69 1,192]

13 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

You know this is illegal, right?

When you are a contractor you do not have a leg to stand on. They say jump and you say how high or they fire you. If I had said a single word that showed I was out of lock step with DEI I would have been fired by the end of the day. That is 100 percent not a joke. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,708]

44 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You're FOS. DEI initiatives for my employer are legit. I've hired some spectacular employees due to their cultivation of it. And never, not once have I heard of someone being hired for anything other than merit. I've certainly never done it.

But now the 2-bit fraudster wants to make it criminal? To what end? Cutting off funding? Do y'all understand what's at stake? In my case potentially massive amounts of healthcare research dollars being revoked because our POTUS is an ignorant moron with no concept of long term downstream effects. All so he can claim another pyrrhic victory. 

I'm trying to understand how DEI allowed you to hire some spectacular employees.  The fact that you even mention DEI means you've ignored White/Asian candidates so you could not possibly know you hired the best spectacular employee or not.  You may have used merit once you used DEI to discriminate and whittle down the pool to just DEI candidates, but you still discriminated if you used DEI.

Help me understand.

[kilroy69 1,192]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm trying to understand how DEI allowed you to hire some spectacular employees.  The fact that you even mention DEI means you've ignored White/Asian candidates so you could not possibly know you hired the best spectacular employee or not.  You may have used merit once you used DEI to discriminate and whittle down the pool to just DEI candidate, but you still discriminated if you used DEI.

Help me understand.

This is EXACTLY what happened. He consciously filtered out the non DEI candidates and then chose from the DEI people and called it fair.  That is literally standard operating procedure for DEI hires. 

[TrailGuy 552]

3 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

When you are a contractor you do not have a leg to stand on. They say jump and you say how high or they fire you. If I had said a single word that showed I was out of lock step with DEI I would have been fired by the end of the day. That is 100 percent not a joke. 

That's fine, just know that what they told you to do is illegal and you went along with it.  You could have said no, gotten fired and sued them.

[kilroy69 1,192]

3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

That's fine, just know that what they told you to do is illegal and you went along with it.  You could have said no, gotten fired and sued them.

Using what proof? She told me this on a zoom call. I am a single dad and would have lost my apartment and my car with no job. In a vacuum what you are saying would happen. In DEI land there is ZERO chance I win a lawsuit under the old climate. 

[Engorgeous George 1,978]

11 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Your company can hire all the 400lb black trans furry Xers they want. Nobody is stopping you or the company. 

If they do hire such folks they would be well advised to conduct a survey of their premises.  They would want to assure that their chairs can hold those folks, that there are no open flames on the premises which could catch the fur on fire, and that they have sufficient and appropirate bathroom facilities.  Otherwise they risk lawsuits under Title 18 or perhaps under the Americans with Disabilities Act if someone can get a judge to decide obese furryism is or should be a protected class.

[TrailGuy 552]

Just now, kilroy69 said:

Using what proof? She told me this on a zoom call. I am a single dad and would have lost my apartment and my car with no job. 

I'm not blaming you for playing along.  You do whatever you want.  I'm just telling you that what was asked of you is illegal.  That's not DEI.  You don't seem to understand the difference.

[kilroy69 1,192]

4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

I'm not blaming you for playing along.  You do whatever you want.  I'm just telling you that what was asked of you is illegal.  That's not DEI.  You don't seem to understand the difference.

No. YOU don't seem to understand. THAT is how DEI is applied in the real world. I have been a recruiter for 11 years now and the last 4 of them have been filled with just the type of thing I am talking about. Across multiple orgs. Large and small.  DEI as a THEORY in academic settings is great. In practical application it is Affirmative action with another name. 

[Cdub100 3,776]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

I'm not blaming you for playing along.  You do whatever you want.  I'm just telling you that what was asked of you is illegal.  That's not DEI.  You don't seem to understand the difference.

 That's not REAL DEI.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,708]

2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

 That's not REAL DEI.

These are same rubes that also say that Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro and others didn't practice REAL COMMUNISM either! 

We should give it another shot because I can do better!!!

[TheNewGirl 1,289]

1 minute ago, kilroy69 said:

No YOU don't seem to understand. THAT is how DEI is applied in the real world. I have been a recruiter for 11 years now and the last 4 of them have been filled with just the type of thing I am talking about. Across multiple orgs. Large and small. 

I stumbled across something once that had information on how certain percentages of "people" were required at one of my jobs. If you had a quota, and all applicants being equal you had to hire the one that would fit that quota; whether it was the requirement of a certain number of women in an org, number of AA people, etc.  

[purdygood 316]

The company I work for is DEF lacking in DEI policies... who do I talk to about "Including" wayyyyy more recent college graduates who may have been on the USC or UCLA cheerleading squad?

[kilroy69 1,192]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I stumbled across something once that had information on how certain percentages of "people" were required at one of my jobs. If you had a quota, and all applicants being equal you had to hire the one that would fit that quota; whether it was the requirement of a certain number of women in an org, number of AA people, etc.  

SOP. Then they claim they have no bias in their hiring. I have seen blatant discrimination directed at white males in the last 4 years. Things that if I did as a straight white male to ANYONE else would make me unemployable and open me personally up to lawsuits. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,708]

1 minute ago, purdygood said:

The company I work for is DEF lacking in DEI policies... who do I talk to about "Including" wayyyyy more recent college graduates who may have been on the USC or UCLA cheerleading squad?

Well, I think that is all something we can get behind on and support!  That's what I like about you, purdy, you're always trying to bring the two sides together!!!

[TrailGuy 552]

10 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

No. YOU don't seem to understand. THAT is how DEI is applied in the real world. I have been a recruiter for 11 years now and the last 4 of them have been filled with just the type of thing I am talking about. Across multiple orgs. Large and small.  DEI as a THEORY in academic settings is great. In practical application it is Affirmative action with another name. 

If anything that you say is true then we would see whistleblowers and litigation.

Frankly I think you're full of sh1t since my experience in the workplace and virtually everyone I talk to about this contradicts what you're saying.  The law agrees with me.

[Red White and Blue 81]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I stumbled across something once that had information on how certain percentages of "people" were required at one of my jobs. If you had a quota, and all applicants being equal you had to hire the one that would fit that quota; whether it was the requirement of a certain number of women in an org, number of AA people, etc.  

So, your company hired qualified black people?

Thats terrible.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,708]

Just now, Red White and Blue said:

So, your company hired qualified black people?

Thats terrible.  

After whittling down the pool to just DEI candidates.  Sure, you hired the most qualified black person out the pool of black people.

[TrailGuy 552]

8 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I stumbled across something once that had information on how certain percentages of "people" were required at one of my jobs. If you had a quota, and all applicants being equal you had to hire the one that would fit that quota; whether it was the requirement of a certain number of women in an org, number of AA people, etc.  

Quotas are illegal too.  You're full of sh1t 

[kilroy69 1,192]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

If anything that you say is true then we would see whistleblowers and litigation.

Frankly I think you're full of sh1t since my experience in the workplace and virtually everyone I talk to about this contradicts what you're saying.  The law agrees with me.

It makes you FEEL better to think I am full of shitt. The alternative is that DEI is discrimination, and we cannot have that now can we?