Trump and Russia- the optimism is fading

[seafoam1 2,917]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Right?   Why do they need anything from us if Putin's army sucks so bad.  

You can't make up that level of stupidity. 

Liberalgeneral, liberalzazzy, liberalgutterboy, liberalpimpledoosh, liberaltimmy, liberalfrailguy, liberalmdcrap....All of them are full blown stupid crackpipe liberals.  

[Horseman 2,438]

1 minute ago, zsasz said:

That was what we were getting paid back with.   

Holy cow the lemmings are coming out of the woodwork.  Let me dumb it down:

Trump is not going to give blank checks to Ukraine.  That's #1. And a win 

Trump is trying to get some of Ukraine's minerals to make up for Biden's blank check.  That would be icing on the cake.  

Get it now?

[thegeneral 3,117]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Right?   Why do they need anything from us if Putin's army sucks so bad.  

You can't make up that level of stupidity. 

Liberalgeneral, liberalzazzy, liberalgutterboy, liberalpimpledoosh, liberaltimmy, liberalfrailguy, liberalmdcrap....All of them are full blown stupid crackpipe liberals.  

Tony cringes when you try and help him out

[seafoam1 2,917]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

. I know it’s a hard ask dumbo but give it a rip.

You can use this dopey handle 

This is all the liberals have left in the tank. 

[zsasz 366]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Holy cow the lemmings are coming out of the woodwork.  Let me dumb it down:

Trump is not going to give blank checks to Ukraine.  That's #1. And a win 

Trump is trying to get some of Ukraine's minerals to make up for Biden's blank check.  That would be icing on the cake.  

Get it now?

 

There was going to be a cease fire where we received mineral rights to pay us back for the aid we gave them. Just this other day, this was a greal "art of the deal" deal.    That is currently in limbo.   While Zelensky and Trump can come  to an agreement again...if they don't; we are going to lose that money.

Trump negotiated a deal; and then for some  reason, let Vance take a huge crap on the table during this meeting.   WINNING!!!!!!!

[thegeneral 3,117]

Trump only plays tough with Zelensky. When it comes to Putin he busts out the kneepads and talks about how smart he is. 

[seafoam1 2,917]

generalgutterboy only plays tough with . When it comes to Putin he busts out the kneepads and talks about how smart he is. 

Just now, thegeneral said:

Trump only plays tough with Zelensky. When it comes to Putin he busts out the kneepads and talks about how smart he is. 

generalgutterboy only plays tough with his sister . When it comes to his boyfriend he busts out the kneepads and opens wide. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,254]

I remember during Trump 1.0 that he ended Putins pipeline.  Biden opened it up. 

[Horseman 2,438]

9 minutes ago, zsasz said:

 

There was going to be a cease fire where we received mineral rights to pay us back for the aid we gave them. Just this other day, this was a greal "art of the deal" deal.    That is currently in limbo.   While Zelensky and Trump can come  to an agreement again...if they don't; we are going to lose that money.

Trump negotiated a deal; and then for some  reason, let Vance take a huge crap on the table during this meeting.   WINNING!!!!!!!

You're criticizing the guy trying to get the money back instead of the guy who spent it?.   

[seafoam1 2,917]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

You're criticizing the guy trying to get the money back instead of the guy who spent it?.   

He thinks going broke is great for our country because then he won't feel alone in his poverty. 

[thegeneral 3,117]

15 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

generalgutterboy only plays tough with . When it comes to Putin he busts out the kneepads and talks about how smart he is. 

generalgutterboy only plays tough with his sister . When it comes to his boyfriend he busts out the kneepads and opens wide. 

You having a stroke?

[Gepetto 1,350]

1 hour ago, TrailGuy said:

Zelensky wants a ceasefire with protection.  Trump wants a ceasefire with no protection.

That's right. Trump will not give a guarantee of American troops = WAR with Russia, should Russia invade Ukraine in the future, after the current war ends.

[thegeneral 3,117]

Can anyone answer:

What concessions is Russia giving in a deal?

[Fnord 2,187]

There seems to be nothing dear leader can do that MAGAmooks won't defend. Trance's behavior today was abominable, inexcusable, embarrassing, and grossly unprofessional. 

Some of you clueless fucksticks will be cheering on these pukes fully even if they end up going full dictator. 10 years ago if someone had predicted the GOP would be supporting a Russian dictator over the democracy that they invaded (after ignoring a peace agreement), the righties around here would have blown up. Now it's part of the MAGA litmus test. 

BAAAAAAA

[Horseman 2,438]

14 minutes ago, Fnord said:

There seems to be nothing dear leader can do that MAGAmooks won't defend. Trance's behavior today was abominable, inexcusable, embarrassing, and grossly unprofessional. 

Some of you clueless fucksticks will be cheering on these pukes fully even if they end up going full dictator. 10 years ago if someone had predicted the GOP would be supporting a Russian dictator over the democracy that they invaded (after ignoring a peace agreement), the righties around here would have blown up. Now it's part of the MAGA litmus test. 

BAAAAAAA

Weaklings are TRIGGERED by Alpha.  

Not giving Tiny Z a blank check like the last guy isnt supporting Russia, its supporting America.  

[TrailGuy 554]

I rewatched the entire thing.  Kaitlyn Collins was giving Zelensky many of the questions that allowed Zelensky to speak openly against Putin.  Trump didn't like that.

The whole probably wouldn't have happened if JD Vance didn't open his dumb mouth unprovoked and throw praise on Trump for being diplomatic.  He blew the whole thing up.

JD Vance called Zelensky out for campaigning for Kamala.  What a turd.

[thegeneral 3,117]

Putin popping some vodka tonight. Pathetic that chump gets paid off for this after all this effort.

[zsasz 366]

4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

I rewatched the entire thing.  Kaitlyn Collins was giving Zelensky many of the questions that allowed Zelensky to speak openly against Putin.  Trump didn't like that.

The whole probably wouldn't have happened if JD Vance didn't open his dumb mouth unprovoked and throw praise on Trump for being diplomatic.  He blew the whole thing up.

JD Vance called Zelensky out for campaigning for Kamala.  What a turd.

Yeah.  Vance blows the whole thing up.  Zelensky is bascially saying we've seen diplomacy in the past that hasn't worked; how will this be different.  Vance then goes off the rails on it and then Trump...only half paying attention blows into it.

Going forward, they need to keep Vance away from the grown ups table.  

[thegeneral 3,117]

Just now, zsasz said:

Yeah.  Vance blows the whole thing up.  Zelensky is bascially saying we've seen diplomacy in the past that hasn't worked; how will this be different.  Vance then goes off the rails on it and then Trump...only half paying attention blows into it.

Going forward, they need to keep Vance away from the grown ups table.  

Trump saw that JD was “looking tough” and couldn’t just sit there at that point. 

[TrailGuy 554]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Trump saw that JD was “looking tough” and couldn’t just sit there at that point. 

Vance tired to be the alpha and Trump couldn't get out alpha'd by vance. 

Bunch of puzzys.

[Horseman 2,438]

4 minutes ago, zsasz said:

Yeah.  Vance blows the whole thing up.  Zelensky is bascially saying we've seen diplomacy in the past that hasn't worked; how will this be different.  Vance then goes off the rails on it and then Trump...only half paying attention blows into it.

Going forward, they need to keep Vance away from the grown ups table.  

Third grade summaries are the best.

 

[Horseman 2,438]

100+ billion a year now that can go to tax cuts instead of Ukraine. 

[The Real timschochet 6,619]

A couple of thoughts: 

1. After some reflection, I wouldn’t  make too much of this one way or the other. One of the things about Donald Trump that we should have learned over the years is that nothing is permanent. He can come back tomorrow and praise Zelensky. Or he can cut off all support. Or he can cut off all support for a few days or weeks or months and then resume it. So I wouldn’t make any assumptions, which several you have done. Nothing is set in stone. 
 

2. The Republicans in the House and Senate have, as usual, behaved especially cowardly today. I’m not talking about the MAGA folk's or the isolationists; at least they’ve been consistent in not supporting Ukraine. I’m referring to all those Republicans who have until today expressed their support for Zelensky and Ukraine and are now doing a 180 turn in support of their leader. Shame. 

[Horseman 2,438]

Tiny Z could have kept his mouth shut until they closed the doors, but, he wanted to debate it in front of the cameras. FAFO

[League Champion 1,909]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Tiny Z could have kept his mouth shut until they closed the doors, but, he wanted to debate it in front of the cameras. FAFO

I can't believe the balls on that little prickk. He must of owned Pedo Joe 

[thegeneral 3,117]

15 minutes ago, Horseman said:

100+ billion a year now that can go to tax cuts instead of Ukraine. 

Us and Europe spent much more than that, Ukraine sacrificed much, much more all to just let Putin take what he wants. Wimp in charge. Pathetic.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

9 minutes ago, League Champion said:

I can't believe the balls on that little prickk. He must of owned Pedo Joe 

He threatened the US when he said that we haven’t been affected by the war yet because our big ocean, but that we would be feeling it soon.  Then he said that we’d also be feeling “influence” - assuming from European pressure as Zelenskyy feels he has them in his hip pocket.  That’s when Trump jumped down his throat and rightfully put him in his place.

[League Champion 1,909]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

That’s when Trump jumped down his throat and rightfully put him in his place.

He found out  

[GobbleDog 991]

51 minutes ago, Fnord said:

There seems to be nothing dear leader can do that MAGAmooks won't defend.

I can cite policies I agree and disagree with about every President I've ever had - even Trump. Not Maga - everything he does is right. 

If tomorrow Trump completely reversed course and offered FULL support to Urkaine, they'd say "yeah, greatest leader ever!"  Whatever he believes, they believe. Whatever he says, they support. When he flip-flops, so do they.  They don't actually have any beliefs of their own.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

6 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

I can cite policies I agree and disagree with about every President I've ever had - even Trump. Not Maga - everything he does is right. 

If tomorrow Trump completely reversed course and offered FULL support to Urkaine, they'd say "yeah, greatest leader ever!"  Whatever he believes, they believe. Whatever he says, they support. When he flip-flops, so do they.  They don't actually have any beliefs of their own.

Not true at all.  I initially didn’t like what Trump and Vance did.  Then I watched the video a few times.  Zelenskyy was very disrespectful and deserved to be smacked down.

[League Champion 1,909]

1 minute ago, Patented Phil said:

Zelenskyy was very disrespectful 

He was was way out of line and got everything he deserved. 

[Horseman 2,438]

18 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Us and Europe spent much more than that, Ukraine sacrificed much, much more all to just let Putin take what he wants. Wimp in charge. Pathetic.

Who spent more than 100 billion a year?    JFC.  

[GobbleDog 991]

4 minutes ago, League Champion said:

He was was way out of line and got everything he deserved. 

What exactly did President Zelensky say that was "way out of line?"     

Post some of his 'out of line' quotes.

[Horseman 2,438]

5 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

What exactly did President Zelensky say that was "way out of line?"     

Post some of his 'out of line' quotes.

That he wouldn't accept a ceasefire. And the first few times he said it Trump let it going just saying "we'll see".

The dust up started when Tiny Z took issue with Vance saying we're going to come to peace through diplomacy instead of talking tough.  "What do you mean diplomacy" Putin bad! 

Did you even watch?

[League Champion 1,909]

4 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

What exactly did President Zelensky say that was "way out of line?"     

Post some of his 'out of line' quotes.

First off, he shows up dressed like an 8 year old, never once thanks Trump or the American people, Makes faces the whole time Trump is talking and acts like he deserves our money. 

THE WHOLE THING WAS DISRESPECTFUL 

[Horseman 2,438]

3 minutes ago, League Champion said:

First off, he shows up dressed like an 8 year old, never once thanks Trump or the American people, Makes faces the whole time Trump is talking and acts like he deserves our money. 

THE WHOLE THING WAS DISRESPECTFUL 

The question from the press about wearing a suit was brilliant.  

He answered, "maybe after the war I'll wear a costume like yours"   Totally disrespectful, what a POS.

[League Champion 1,909]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

He answered, "maybe after the war I'll wear a costume like yours"   Totally disrespectful, what a POS.

Wow!!! Totally disrespectful 

[Horseman 2,438]

How many times did Biden talk to Putin in 4 years?  Zero?

[GobbleDog 991]

5 minutes ago, League Champion said:

First off, he shows up dressed like an 8 year old, never once thanks Trump or the American people, Makes faces the whole time Trump is talking and acts like he deserves our money. 

THE WHOLE THING WAS DISRESPECTFUL 

He didn't wear a suit, didn't bow down to thank Trump during the meeting (even though he's thanked the US and other allies a million times in the past), and looked uncomfortable while being berated.   That's it?  That's all ya got?  That's why he "got what he deserved".?.

Pretty pathetic League.  

[League Champion 1,909]

4 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

He didn't wear a suit, didn't bow down to thank Trump during the meeting (even though he's thanked the US and other allies a million times in the past), and looked uncomfortable while being berated.   That's it?  That's all ya got?  That's why he "got what he deserved".?.

Pretty pathetic League.  

And then Coke Head Zelensky tells Vance that "there's no negotiating with Putin". 

THEN WHY THE FUK ARE YOU HERE??? 

THAT PEDO WANTS TRUMP TO PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, IS HE CRAZY??