LIBERATION DAY: US economy now in reverse

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

You believe everything he says.  You're dumb.

No. When he said Zelensky had bad poll numbers I said how the Fock could you know that? 

[Horseman 2,369]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Bro believes what Trump says

Over you, every day of the week. You're not smart.  You're 50 years old without a plan for retirement and drinks sangria. Nobody puts any stock into what you think.  

[jbycho 605]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Over you, every day of the week. You're not smart.  You're 50 years old without a plan for retirement and drinks sangria. Nobody puts any stock into what you think.  

Straight to the point. And accurate to boot. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Over you, every day of the week. You're not smart.  You're 50 years old without a plan for retirement and drinks sangria. Nobody puts any stock into what you think.  

He drinks sangria? WTF. I thought the IPA’s with the goofy names were bad.  But this is a whole new level of wussdom. 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

17 minutes ago, jbycho said:

No. I can’t. It's either because you don't know what you are talking about or you just want to blame and trash Trump because you are hate filled. 

Lolol. But I already knew this. Go back to the kids table, mmkay? The grownups are talking serious stuff here. 

[jbycho 605]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lolol. But I already knew this. Go back to the kids table, mmkay? The grownups are talking serious stuff here. 

All I said is I don't know if you are lying or stupid. But it's one of the two. I'm kind of guessing both. You don't even remember your question. 

"Mmkay?" 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lolol. But I already knew this. Go back to the kids table, mmkay? The grownups are talking serious stuff here. 

So Tim, are you for the security guarantee that Zelensky wants? 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

15 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Over you, every day of the week. You're not smart.  You're 50 years old without a plan for retirement and drinks sangria. Nobody puts any stock into what you think.  

I don't drink sangria.  My retirement plan is narrowing in seeing where my kids might end up.  I still have plenty of time.

[jbycho 605]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

I don't drink sangria.  My retirement plan is narrowing in seeing where my kids might end up.  I still have plenty of time.

You whined about a sangria hangover for half a day. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,848]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I don't drink sangria.  My retirement plan is narrowing in seeing where my kids might end up.  I still have plenty of time.

I got some bad news for ya': You can't have kids by getting plugged in the @ss by your Boyosexual buddies.  That's not how babies are born.  If that were the case, you'd probably have about 500 or more kids by now.

[Horseman 2,369]

 

[The Girlfriend 208]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

 

We can add can’t read to your resume.

[Horseman 2,369]

5 minutes ago, The Girlfriend said:

We can add can’t read to your resume.

People like me don't need a resume. 

Imagine a grown ass man chopping up fruit and putting it in wine. 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

8 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

Made for a party <> drink it myself.  I don't like sangria but even if it did who cares. I like red wine but most Cabernet.

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

People like me don't need a resume. 

Imagine a grown ass man chopping up fruit and putting it in wine. 

How is this an insult?  You try too hard.  3 laughing emojis for making sangria for guests?

[Tebok 322]

Well, at least now we can't say Trump's first term was the worst in presidential history.

His second term says, "Here, hold my beer."

[The Girlfriend 208]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

How is this an insult?  You try too hard.  3 laughing emojis for making sangria for guests?

He drinks from a toilet bowl. Pay him no mind.

[Voltaire 5,202]

3 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I got some bad news for ya': You can't have kids by getting plugged in the @ss by your Boyosexual buddies.  That's not how babies are born.  If that were the case, you'd probably have about 500 or more kids by now.

Are you including ringworms, tapeworms, gerbils, and shaved Barbie doll heads in your count?

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m just telling you that most economists disagree that the negative results will be minor. 

There you go again with the "most" bullsh#t.  When you start that I know you're just making stuff up again.

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

6 hours ago, Strike said:

There you go again with the "most" bullsh#t.  When you start that I know you're just making stuff up again.

“Virtually all economists think that the impact of the tariffs will be very bad for America and for the world,” said Joseph Stiglitz, an economics professor at Columbia University and a winner of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences. “They will almost surely be inflationary.”

https://tcf.org/content/commentary/economists-agree-trump-is-wrong-on-tariffs/

Economists have long known that tariffs on imports not only reduce the demand for imports, they also discourage exports. This effect arises because as more domestic resources are used to produce goods that were previously imported, those resources are drawn away from export industries.

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/what-populists-dont-understand-about-tariffs-economists-do

Economists across the political spectrum oppose these ideas, saying the most likely outcome would be higher prices for consumers. Here’s a look at how tariffs work and why they’re so critical in an election in which living costs are front and center.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/tariffs-economists-dont-rcna176164

Why do most economists think tariffs are a bad idea?

https://www.afhwm.co.uk/news/why-do-most-economists-think-tariffs-are-a-bad-idea/

Are tariffs bad for growth? Yes, say five decades of data from 150 countries

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7255316/

Leading American and Chinese economists answer one question: name one way the U.S.-China trade war has affected the American economy and global trade over the past two years. Despite the signing of a phase-one deal on January 15, until all tariffs are lifted many of these adverse impacts will continue.

https://www.ncuscr.org/podcast/economists-explain-trade-war/

Thus, tariffs result in less efficient production, leading to reduced economic output and lower incomes over the long run. This is the standard analysis of tariffs going back to Adam Smith and the classical economists, who recommended keeping tariffs as low as possible (tariffs were a primary source of government revenue at the time).

https://taxfoundation.org/blog/trump-tariffs-impact-economy/

 

[Maximum Overkill 1,741]

8 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

“Virtually all economists think that the impact of the tariffs will be very bad for America and for the world,”

Economists are like a-holes, everyone has one. 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

China and Canada slap back with retaliation tariffs.

Ottawa immediate 25% retaliation.

China 10%-15% retaliation including food and restrictions on 25 US based firms.

Asian markets tank.

This is going great. Trump did this. You did this maga.

[Maximum Overkill 1,741]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Ottawa immediate 25% retaliation

Canada is dead at 25%. This is going to last a week if that 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Canada is dead at 25%. This is going to last a week if that 

I'll laugh at you in a week.

[Maximum Overkill 1,741]

17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I'll laugh at you in a week.

You're a Pedocrat, we laugh at you all the time  

[Patented Phil 1,469]

12 hours ago, Horseman said:

People like me don't need a resume. 

Imagine a grown ass man chopping up fruit and putting it in wine. 

His man-card needs to be revoked.  That’s awful.

[Horseman 2,369]

13 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

How is this an insult?  You try too hard.  3 laughing emojis for making sangria for guests?

Did you wear an apron so you wouldn't get grapefruit on your sun dress?

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

This is kind of a big deal, right?  Anyone upset with this?  https://x.com/APompliano/status/1896673175066587156

To all the people saying tariffs don’t work, here is TSMC saying they are going to invest $100 billion in the US, build 5 new facilities, and create 20,000 American jobs.

[CaptainObvious1 327]

38 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This is kind of a big deal, right?  Anyone upset with this?  https://x.com/APompliano/status/1896673175066587156

To all the people saying tariffs don’t work, here is TSMC saying they are going to invest $100 billion in the US, build 5 new facilities, and create 20,000 American jobs.

But maple syrup is going up 10 cents.

[RLLD 4,143]

45 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This is kind of a big deal, right?  Anyone upset with this?  https://x.com/APompliano/status/1896673175066587156

To all the people saying tariffs don’t work, here is TSMC saying they are going to invest $100 billion in the US, build 5 new facilities, and create 20,000 American jobs.

Jobs are more influential on inflation than tariffs are.

Don't get me wrong, I love job creation.  But just note that high employment has some teeth when it comes to rising inflation.

[GobbleDog 984]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

“Virtually all economists think that the impact of the tariffs will be very bad for America and for the world,” said Joseph Stiglitz, an economics professor at Columbia University and a winner of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences.

That was my take-away from college economics. They create production inefficiencies and leave everyone - nations and consumers, poorer.

I wondered if Trump was just threatening tariffs as a diplomatic bargaining chip, but wouldn't actually employ them unless necessary. Guess not. I'd like to believe Trump knows what he's doing and it'll be good for America, but yeah...  we know that ain't right.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

So other countries can tariff the US and we can’t tariff them or the whole thing falls apart? Let it then.  That system sucks. 

[squistion 1,956]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This is kind of a big deal, right?  Anyone upset with this?  https://x.com/APompliano/status/1896673175066587156

To all the people saying tariffs don’t work, here is TSMC saying they are going to invest $100 billion in the US, build 5 new facilities, and create 20,000 American jobs.

https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1896795373039141218

TSMC announced their US investment because of Biden’s CHIPs Act, Trump is just taking credit.

 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/ArmandDoma/status/1896795373039141218

TSMC announced their US investment because of Biden’s CHIPs Act, Trump is just taking credit.

 

Ok.  Still good news.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

Chips act was signed in 2022. But they just decided to do the deal now. I wonder why? Winning. 

[HellToupee 1,595]

let’s see the full story
 

https://x.com/shmoitafunim/status/1896661603489317202?s=61&amp;t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ

Remember Biden's CHIPS Act? Yeah that was the government investing $53 BILLION tax payer money into companies like Intel, TSMC & Samsung.

Trump just got TSMC to invest $100 BILLION into the U.S.

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This is kind of a big deal, right?  Anyone upset with this?  https://x.com/APompliano/status/1896673175066587156

To all the people saying tariffs don’t work, here is TSMC saying they are going to invest $100 billion in the US, build 5 new facilities, and create 20,000 American jobs.

It is a big deal, but it didn't happen because of tariffs.

1) Trump never announced any tariffs on Taiwan.  

2) TSMC already began a huge investment in US manufacturing in 2022 thanks to incentives by Biden's Chip Act.  This current investment builds on that.

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4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

10 times banned alias says what???

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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64021813/honda-moves-civic-hybrid-production-plans/

[squistion 1,956]

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1896870908679352824

NEW:

China just announced it will impose additional tariffs of up to 15% on some U.S. goods, including chicken, dairy, fruits and vegetables, and Canada will impose 25% tariffs in response to Trump's new tariffs on the countries.