LIBERATION DAY: US economy now in reverse

[jbycho 605]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lololol

First off they haven’t ended anything yet, they’re open to talks. That’s a good thing. 

Second, after catastrophic losses on both sides (which we haven’t seen the full effects of yet but we will shortly, they’re inevitable no matter what happens now) both sides are suddenly open to at least TRYING to return to the status quo that existed before Trump started this mess. Only to a clown like you is that “winning.” 

It must suck being you. You are in a constant state of crying. Sad for sure.

On the bright side, I feel good. 

[weepaws 3,157]

Gas here in Reno has risen.   Thanks government.  

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 China ends tariffs on 40 billion in US imports. Winning. 

Uhm, anyone have any verification of this? Iirc the US has been chasing China ti even listen to the idea of talks, that’s where we are.

[supermike80 1,809]

Were still here right?  The world hasnt ended?

[thegeneral 2,920]

35 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Uhm, anyone have any verification of this? Iirc the US has been chasing China ti even listen to the idea of talks, that’s where we are.

Hardcore repeats things he hears on am radio.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

Airfare down from this same time as last year. 

[Horseman 2,369]

2 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Were still here right?  The world hasnt ended?

They wont be able to afford to buy plastic Halloween costumes!!!!

Where are the environmentalists, seriously, they should be thrilled with the possibility of cutting off crap from China.  

 

[thegeneral 2,920]

36 minutes ago, Horseman said:

They wont be able to afford to buy plastic Halloween costumes!!!!

Where are the environmentalists, seriously, they should be thrilled with the possibility of cutting off crap from China.  

 

The plan is to have Americans make it. Start some sweatshops in North Dakota!

[Horseman 2,369]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

The plan is to have Americans make it. Start some sweatshops in North Dakota!

Go to a thrift store and steal some of your boyfriends makeup dumbass.  Use your imagination.  Quit foking mailing it in on god dam everything for once. JFC.  

[thegeneral 2,920]

Just now, Horseman said:

Go to a thrift store and steal some of your boyfriend’s makeup dumbass.  Use your imagination.  Quit foking mailing it in on god dam everything for once. JFC.  

Flailing wildly now. Don’t go turning into Peefoam on me. I’m just messing around, Rodg.

[Horseman 2,369]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Flailing wildly now. Don’t go turning into Peefoam on me. I’m just messing around, Rodg.

You're the idiot who thinks the only option is to make plastic Halloween costumes in the US, instead of China. You walked right into it simpleton.  

[thegeneral 2,920]

Just now, Horseman said:

You're the idiot who thinks the only option is to make plastic Halloween costumes in the US, instead of China. You walked right into it simpleton.  

The point of this is to get duh manufacturing jobs back here, Roscoe!

[squistion 1,956]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

Like I was saying, China has exempted about 25 pct of US imports from tariffs.  Winning. 

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

100% tariffs on foreign films.

Bro is a fücking psychopath

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

Deals?  He said he sets the deal.  So much for negotiation, whatever he says goes.

You guys voted for this

[squistion 1,956]

45 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

100% tariffs on foreign films.

Bro is a fücking psychopath

I thought you wer joking...but no...

 

[supermike80 1,809]

14 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Deals?  He said he sets the deal.  So much for negotiation, whatever he says goes.

You guys voted for this

Omg thats the LAST STRAW!

[Ron_Artest 1,077]

Bro can't stop talking about how a girl only needs 2 dolls to be happy.

Donny 2 Dolls is really endearing himself to the working class.

[jonnyutah 250]

On 5/1/2025 at 9:33 PM, The Real timschochet said:

https://youtu.be/Mstkxm8O5jg?si=IXiDMcul0iCPRrY6

Lmao. She probably messed up converting her rupees. 

Barbies wont cost 50 bucks. That doesnt even make any sense. Unless you think barbies are being sold at no markup. 

[Gepetto 1,291]

For example, parts from Canadian or Mexican suppliers who pay their workers $16 or more an hour are deemed “compliant” with the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement, a trade deal negotiated during the first Trump administration. That means most Canadian parts are exempt from tariffs, but relatively few Mexican parts. - CNN

I focking told the idiots this agreement was still in place.

[MDC 7,144]

11 hours ago, squistion said:

I thought you wer joking...but no...

 

How does that even work? 

[squistion 1,956]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

How does that even work? 

Good question...Does he mean like a tariff on the physical film itself as it is brought in the country? 

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

On 5/3/2025 at 12:53 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Like I was saying, China has exempted about 25 pct of US imports from tariffs.  Winning. 

>>The move echoes steps taken by the Trump administration to exempt smartphones and other electronics from its own “reciprocal” tariffs, including the 145% levies on China. Those US exemptions apply to about $102 billion, or roughly 22% of US imports from China last year, according to estimates by Gerard DiPippo, associate director of the RAND China Research Center.
The notion that China’s exemptions largely mirror the US ones suggests this is more of a strategic move to match Washington’s actions rather than purely a goodwill gesture. It also points to Beijing’s priority of shielding its own economy from the fallout of the trade war.<<

Bloomberg

Maybe we should just get on with the other 75% on both sides.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

>>The move echoes steps taken by the Trump administration to exempt smartphones and other electronics from its own “reciprocal” tariffs, including the 145% levies on China. Those US exemptions apply to about $102 billion, or roughly 22% of US imports from China last year, according to estimates by Gerard DiPippo, associate director of the RAND China Research Center.
The notion that China’s exemptions largely mirror the US ones suggests this is more of a strategic move to match Washington’s actions rather than purely a goodwill gesture. It also points to Beijing’s priority of shielding its own economy from the fallout of the trade war.<<

Bloomberg

Maybe we should just get on with the other 75% on both sides.

Oh. So it was true. Like I said. 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh. So it was true. Like I said. 

Question for you: if exemptions from tariffs are “winning” (I agree with you on this) can we also agree that the tariffs themselves are “losing”? 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

10 hours ago, Gepetto said:

For example, parts from Canadian or Mexican suppliers who pay their workers $16 or more an hour are deemed “compliant” with the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement, a trade deal negotiated during the first Trump administration. That means most Canadian parts are exempt from tariffs, but relatively few Mexican parts. - CNN

I focking told the idiots this agreement was still in place.

There remains quite a bit of debate on this. 

But once again I want to point out that almost all of the arguments made by Trump supporters in this thread are about the rest of us supposedly exaggerating the amount of tariffs, which implies agreement on the core issue that the greater amount of tariffs the worse things are. Are we at least united on this principle? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Question for you: if exemptions from tariffs are “winning” (I agree with you on this) can we also agree that the tariffs themselves are “losing”? 

You can first acknowledge I was right after he scoffed at what I said in your usual derisive manner that often proceeds you being wrong. No, they are not losing. They are a means to an end.  The end is less tariffs for everyone , including your country.   

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 The end is less tariffs for everyone , including your country.   

So not designed to bring manufacturing back to the USA? Because you can’t have both. 

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 The end is less tariffs for everyone , including your country.   

And also if this is the case then why have we imposed tariffs on several countries who didn’t have tariffs on us? (For example Canada.) 

[MDC 7,144]

If there are less tariffs for everyone, do we still get that US manufacturing boom MAGAs were briefly talking about after Trump tanked the stock market a few weeks ago?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And also if this is the case then why have we imposed tariffs on several countries who didn’t have tariffs on us? (For example Canada.) 

Canada didn’t tariff out goods? 

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh. So it was true. Like I said. 

It’s quite alright, old sport, I didn’t doubt you for a moment. It’s interesting news. However it’s important to note that China dropped theirs *after Trump dropped his & in roughly the same amount. Completely useless exercise but quite costly all around. We’ll be lucky if we get out of the rest in the same way.

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Canada didn’t tariff out goods? 

No. They didn’t. Are you aware of the U.S. Mexico Canada Trade Agreement (negotiated by Trump)? And before that NAFTA? 

[SaintsInDome2006 392]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Good question...Does he mean like a tariff on the physical film itself as it is brought in the country? 

It’s a tax on services, which nations don’t do. It’s not a thing because it’s incredibly onerous. The US is by far the world’s leader in services, we “export” services more than anyone. Even opening the door to this is a massive mistake.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,953]

39 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No. They didn’t. Are you aware of the U.S. Mexico Canada Trade Agreement (negotiated by Trump)? And before that NAFTA? 

That didn’t cover all goods. You’re wrong here Tim 

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

And also if this is the case then why have we imposed tariffs on several countries who didn’t have tariffs on us? (For example Canada.) 

Canada has tariffs on U.S. products.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

And also if this is the case then why have we imposed tariffs on several countries who didn’t have tariffs on us? (For example Canada.) 

Here you go Tim.  This is from 2022:

https://wits.worldbank.org/tariff/trains/en/country/CAN/partner/USA/product/all

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31 minutes ago, shadrap said:

Canada has tariffs on U.S. products.

@The Real timschochet loves to prove how ignorant he is on a daily basis.  And what's most ironic is there seems to be a correlation between how ignorant he is on a topic and how strongly his (wrong) opinions are on that topic.

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38 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That didn’t cover all goods. You’re wrong here Tim 

Why did you feel the need to put the word "here" in to that sentence?