LIBERATION DAY: US economy now in reverse

[MDC 7,149]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

No, that's an opinion based upon erroneous premises which apparently you agree with.

Yeah, I do think non-union low wage manufacturing jobs aren’t going to be highly coveted by your average American. Wacky idea I know.

Don't worry though: Trump will strike a deal soon and we can all move on from pretending the goal of his trade war is to bring back the jobs China “stole” from us.

[thegeneral 2,942]

12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

no they will cut their profits to sell cars

a NEW car is ALWAYS a luxury and a STUPID purchase

that being said, I can afford it and don't worry about it, but if you don't have that luxury goto carmax

Companies will not cut profits to make things better for the consumer. There’s no way to get around cheaper labor outside the country without messing with it with things like tariffs that ultimately will hurt the product IMO. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

19 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Companies will not cut profits to make things better for the consumer. There’s no way to get around cheaper labor outside the country without messing with it with things like tariffs that ultimately will hurt the product IMO. 

so then companies will fold and new ones will rise

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

32 minutes ago, purdygood said:

So this is great for the less than 1% of American's who live in Michigan and want to work in a car factory. YIPPEEEE!

so you think people are entitled to new cars, got it

 

[thegeneral 2,942]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so then companies will fold and new ones will rise

Pretty cavalier. Isn’t the point to have good stable jobs?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,243]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Pretty cavalier. Isn’t the point to have good stable jobs?

nope just like I didnt support bailing out car companies in the past, I don't support it now

thats why I refuse to support GM/Chevy and will generally only buy Ford

 

[thegeneral 2,942]

20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

nope just like I didnt support bailing out car companies in the past, I don't support it now

thats why I refuse to support GM/Chevy and will generally only buy Ford

 

But you don’t want the government to insert these artificial means into the private sector to “help”?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,962]

Apparently this deal is getting great reviews. Good to have a guy that knows what’s up in charge. 

[thegeneral 2,942]

AM radio guy says it’s a great deal. No way! 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,962]

This and the mineral deal with Ukraine are putting the nay sayers to shame. 

[Tebok 327]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This and the mineral deal with Ukraine are putting the nay sayers to shame. 

Nah, just smoke and mirrors so far.

1.) Most of these minerals are in Russian hands, and we won't see the benefits from this deal for many years.

2.) We've got a concept of a deal with the United Kingdom, one of the few trading partners that imports more from us than we do from them.

I'm sure your "rave reviews" are from your far-right nutjob podcasters with chins that have Trump's balls bouncing off them 24-7.

[thegeneral 2,942]

Hardcore stealing Tree of Knowldge’s shtick here

[jbycho 609]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Hardcore stealing Tree of Knowldge’s shtick here

Generalgutterboypee guy being generalgutterboypee guy. 

[shadrap 223]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

But you don’t want the government to insert these artificial means into the private sector to “help”?

NO, No, & NO.  Make a go of it or don't.  No bailouts ever.

[thegeneral 2,942]

6 minutes ago, shadrap said:

NO, No, & NO.  Make a go of it or don't.  No bailouts ever.

These tariffs are being applied in manner that does just that. Attempting to force businesses to change how they operate to meet a political goal. 

[TimHauck 2,628]

7 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

no they will cut their profits to sell cars

a NEW car is ALWAYS a luxury and a STUPID purchase

that being said, I can afford it and don't worry about it, but if you don't have that luxury goto carmax

If new car prices go up, so will used car prices.

But, even though tariffs or moving factories would increase costs, there could be less demand because people may not want to drop $30K+ if they fear they may lose their job in a time of uncertainty, so I’m not sure total prices will actually increase.   But of course if demand goes down then that could also lead to entire plants closing.

[jbycho 609]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If new car prices go up, so will used car prices.

But, even though tariffs or moving factories would increase costs, there could be less demand because people may not want to drop $30K+ if they fear they may lose their job in a time of uncertainty, so I’m not sure total prices will actually increase.   But of course if demand goes down then that could also lead to entire plants closing.

[SaintsInDome2006 398]

7 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so you think people are entitled to new cars, got it

You do realize this is a far-leftist position, right? It's not an entitlement. It's a right. It's private property.

Yes people should be able to buy what they want, when they want, how they want it, so long as they can afford it, and even then they have the right. And all government has to do when it comes to the market, so long as safety is not affected, is stay out the way.

[SaintsInDome2006 398]

Quote

 

Earlier this week, Trump appeared testy when asked by reporters about his trade negotiations.

"Everyone says, 'When, when, when are you going to sign deals?'" he said. "I wish they'd ... stop asking."

 

BBC

[SaintsInDome2006 398]

16 hours ago, supermike80 said:

I said truck drivers will be ok.  Not trucking overall.  Trucking, in general, is a very tough business.  Trucking companies fold all the time, but the drivers carry on fine.  There are lots of open truck driving jobs.

Thought i was clear i was referencing drivers earlier 

Seems on point.

[jbycho 609]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Seems on point.

More x posts.  

You girls have nothing else to do

 

[SaintsInDome2006 398]

7 minutes ago, jbycho said:

More x posts.  

You girls have nothing else to do

Yeah, it's not happening. She is right, it's exactly what Mike was saying, "it's not happening." It is like Covid. The same crazy one--man-show daily TV circuses, only this time with whackadoo cabinet secretaries. 
 

[Tebok 327]

So we make a "big deal" with a country with whom the trade deficit goes in the other direction, and it has been framed as a nothingburger gussied up as theater.

https://www.msnbc.com/ana-cabrera-reports/watch/u-s-uk-trade-deal-likely-tiny-little-peas-not-even-small-potatoes-economics-professor-239161925966

EEETS A VERRRRRY BURG DEARL!

 

[SaintsInDome2006 398]

3 minutes ago, Tebok said:

So we make a "big deal" with a country with whom the trade deficit goes in the other direction, and it has been framed as a nothingburger gussied up as theater.

https://www.msnbc.com/ana-cabrera-reports/watch/u-s-uk-trade-deal-likely-tiny-little-peas-not-even-small-potatoes-economics-professor-239161925966

EEETS A VERRRRRY BURG DEARL!

 

UK's tariff went from 1% to 0.8%. UK is 3% of US trade. And US has a trade surplus with the UK.

[Tebok 327]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

UK's tariff went from 1% to 0.8%. UK is 3% of US trade. And US has a trade surplus with the UK.

FAGAs won't look at the chart I posted showing that. They'll just cling to Trump theatrics.

[Tebok 327]

FUKKING AMERICAN GREATNESS AGAIN!

FAGAs!

[thegeneral 2,942]

19 minutes ago, Tebok said:

So we make a "big deal" with a country with whom the trade deficit goes in the other direction, and it has been framed as a nothingburger gussied up as theater.

https://www.msnbc.com/ana-cabrera-reports/watch/u-s-uk-trade-deal-likely-tiny-little-peas-not-even-small-potatoes-economics-professor-239161925966

EEETS A VERRRRRY BURG DEARL!

 

Get used to it. At least it will all be over in next couple months. 

[Tebok 327]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Get used to it. At least it will all be over in next couple months. 

NERNDY DEARLS IN NERNDY DERS!

[SaintsInDome2006 398]

China's exports increased 8.1% in April. Its imports declined 0.2%. 

[Tebok 327]

7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

China's exports increased 8.1% in April. Its imports declined 0.2%. 

Meanwhile, hard-working American families suffer. Sad.

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

6 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

China's exports increased 8.1% in April. Its imports declined 0.2%. 

This was panic buying people trying to get in before the tariffs.  May numbers will be bad 

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

American Auto makers pissed at Trump for dropping the British auto tariffs to 10% while their autos in the USMCA are still 25%

Great for America.

[seafoam1 2,805]

The liberal nutjobs are hysterical at 5am. Noon. Evening. 11pm. and 3am. 

Jeez. What a bunch of focking menstrating whiny females all liberals are. 

Maybe this tranny thing is real.

[Gepetto 1,291]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

American Auto makers pissed at Trump for dropping the British auto tariffs to 10% while their autos in the USMCA are still 25%

Great for America.

They outsource engine manufacturing to Mexico. The Big 3 can build in the US or pay the price. 

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

6 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

They outsource engine manufacturing to Mexico. The Big 3 can build in the US or pay the price. 

They are manufacturing according to the trade agreement that Trump negotiated 5 years ago.  Now Trump changes his deal.  Lil unfair huh?

[seafoam1 2,805]

The TDS never stops in this place. 

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

The Alpha has caved again to the Chinese.  Posts that an 80% tariff is good, folding on his previous 145% tariff.

Doesn't matter though as 80% is still a de facto embargo.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,962]

18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

They are manufacturing according to the trade agreement that Trump negotiated 5 years ago.  Now Trump changes his deal.  Lil unfair huh?

The trade deal is subject to review. You didn’t know that? You seem to know everything about it. 

[Ron_Artest 1,088]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The trade deal is subject to review. You didn’t know that? You seem to know everything about it. 

Of course it's subject to review.  Doesn't make it right.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,962]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Of course it's subject to review.  Doesn't make it right.

So he’s not changing the deal.   Both sides agreed it could be reviewed, as part of the deal.