LIBERATION DAY: USA and China agree to a 90 day pause on most new tariffs

[RLLD 4,154]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Fock the millionaires and billionaires.  87% of all stocks are owned by the top 10%. They can handle it 

Curiously, when the market is positive liberals admonish that it is not a measure of economic success or well-being; and of course this is true, and I agree with them.....until they can use it against an ideological opponent as in this case, and then we disagree.....

[The Real timschochet 6,534]

49 minutes ago, squistion said:

You didn't take him that seriously either, Tim. You had this "wait and see" and "let's hope for the best" attitude saying things like "we survived the first Trump term and we will this one too". I kept saying "believe him, he will do what he says" and "see Project 2025" but that is little consolation now as we are moving increasingly towards a dictatorship while Trump drives the economy off a cliff.

Well I do think we’ll survive this. And I still hope for the best; I always do. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I like being a millionaire.

Me too and it has zero to do with the market 

[thegeneral 3,000]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Curiously, when the market is positive liberals admonish that it is not a measure of economic success or well-being; and of course this is true, and I agree with them.....until they can use it against an ideological opponent as in this case, and then we disagree.....

Every liberal I know celebrates a healthy economy and good stock market. And li and behold the markets have all been pretty amazing during our last 3 Dem presidents. Go figure.

There’s no spin for this, the past few months and this week in particular have been disasters. The message shouldn’t be this bullshit about hypocrisy or whatever crap that means nothing in the real world. It should be some bullshit about deal making and looking long term. Maybe people will buy that.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Curiously, when the market is positive liberals admonish that it is not a measure of economic success or well-being; and of course this is true, and I agree with them.....until they can use it against an ideological opponent as in this case, and then we disagree.....

Yep I’m just flipping their continual nonsense back the other way. Middle class doesn’t have enough money to really lose anything when the stock market dips.  Only like 30% of Americans even have a 401k

[thegeneral 3,000]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Me too and it has zero to do with the market 

Well good for us. People typically don’t like seeing what they have drop in value like a stone. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well I do think we’ll survive this. And I still hope for the best; I always do. 

This is why people should always be smart with their finances.  I do feel bad for the people who have terrible finances through no fault of their own.  The reality is that most people with poor finances are self inflicted.  I do not feel bad for them.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Well good for us. People typically don’t like seeing what they have drop in value like a stone. 

It’s all fake anyways.  Everything will be fine.  Graph always go up   Sometimes go down a little then go up more.  That’s what will happen now. The market is artificially inflated by the big 7 anyways. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Every liberal I know celebrates a healthy economy and good stock market. And li and behold the markets have all been pretty amazing during our last 3 Dem presidents. Go figure.

There’s no spin for this, the past few months and this week in particular have been disasters. The message shouldn’t be this bullshit about hypocrisy or whatever crap that means nothing in the real world. It should be some bullshit about deal making and looking long term. Maybe people will buy that.

The markets have been great for over 15 years now.  It's been a steady increase since February of 2009.

[Strike 5,277]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

It’s all fake anyways.  Everything will be fine.  Graph always go up   Sometimes go down a little then go up more.  That’s what will happen now. The market is artificially inflated by the big 7 anyways. 

What these chicken little's are ignoring, mostly so they can bash Trump, is that this isn't a "market correction."  I would be concerned if it was an actual market correction.  But it's not.  It's uncertainty because of the Tariffs.  Which means as soon as some resolution comes, and it will, the market will move back to where it was.  So, unless someone was planning on pulling a bunch of money out of the market RIGHT NOW, this doesn't matter.  At this point it's all on paper and will revert back to pre-tariff levels as soon as this issue is resolved.  FFS it's been like 2 days and these people are in meltdown mode.   They can't be serious with this sh*t.  If they are they probably shouldn't be in the stock market anyways.

[thegeneral 3,000]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

The markets have been great for over 15 years now.  It's been a steady increase since February of 2009.

People like that.

[Mike Honcho 5,148]

46 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

God you liberals are so stupid. I expect it from rusty but you used to be smart. 
 

here for you msnbc watchers

the islands are Australian territories. They have people that work at fisheries there.  The United States imported 325k of stuff from there.  Therefore they get a 10% tax 

but penguins!!!

I could correct your on the many MANY mistakes in your posts, but since you will just dismiss it because it's the MSM, I'm not going to waste my time.  

 

 

But one more time Trump started a trade war with 

[thegeneral 3,000]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

What these chicken little's are ignoring, mostly so they can bash Trump, is that this isn't a "market correction."  I would be concerned if it was an actual market correction.  But it's not.  It's uncertainty because of the Tariffs.  Which means as soon as some resolution comes, and it will, the market will move back to where it was.  So, unless someone was planning on pulling a bunch of money out of the market RIGHT NOW, this doesn't matter.  At this point it's all on paper and will revert back to pre-tariff levels as soon as this issue is resolved.  FFS it's been like 2 days and these people are in meltdown mode.   They can't be serious with this sh*t.  If they are they probably shouldn't be in the stock market anyways.

How about we skip all that instead of all this amazing “deal making” that we have going on.

[RLLD 4,154]

13 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Every liberal I know celebrates a healthy economy and good stock market. And li and behold the markets have all been pretty amazing during our last 3 Dem presidents. Go figure.

There’s no spin for this, the past few months and this week in particular have been disasters. The message shouldn’t be this bullshit about hypocrisy or whatever crap that means nothing in the real world. It should be some bullshit about deal making and looking long term. Maybe people will buy that.

I agree, but wehen the market was up under Trump 1.0 folks were coming here to celebrate, so of course the board liberals had to counter that.  As they did so I was in concert with them, they were right, the market performance was not an indicator, but of course the markets and their performance will be used by some to ding Trump....and I get that.....but later, when the markets return to normal, and folks here try to tout that as some economic barometer....my position will still be the same....its not a marker we should use like that. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

7 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

People like that.

It's not realistic to continue at the rate though.

[MDC 7,171]

I like how Grifter Don spent his entire first term bragging about the booming stock market like that was his doing. Now it tanks, and the MAGAs are all like “Meh … it keeps going up anyway.”

 

[thegeneral 3,000]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

I agree, but wehen the market was up under Trump 1.0 folks were coming here to celebrate, so of course the board liberals had to counter that.  As they did so I was in concert with them, they were right, the market performance was not an indicator, but of course the markets and their performance will be used by some to ding Trump....and I get that.....but later, when the markets return to normal, and folks here try to tout that as some economic barometer....my position will still be the same....its not a marker we should use like that. 

It was one of the few good things to come out of that. 

[Strike 5,277]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

How about we skip all that instead of all this amazing “deal making” that we have going on.

Skip all of what? 

[RLLD 4,154]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

It was one of the few good things to come out of that. 

The market rises and falls, has done so over time repeatedly will do so long after Trump.   While some might like to tout it as a measure of economic well-being it really isnt. 

[thegeneral 3,000]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It's not realistic to continue at the rate though.

Of course. People like things going up, when it drops like a stone over the course of a couple months then people will be critical. 

By in large they don’t like hearing about only billionaires are impacted, or that there’s some person who was complaining about inequality etc.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Of course. People like things going up, when it drops like a stone over the course of a couple months then people will be critical. 

By in large they don’t like hearing about only billionaires are impacted, or that there’s some person who was complaining about inequality etc.

Most people are not impacted drastically.

[blick 35]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm one of those non-MAGA people and I voted for this.  I've been tied of where out country has been going and I felt we needed a reset.

Me too.  Just because this country has been successful, doesn't mean we should be taking on massive debt to be the world's caretaker.  There are too many problems here that have been ignored while $$$ just keeps flowing overseas.

[thegeneral 3,000]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Skip all of what? 

Skip this chaos when the economy is already a bit shaky.

[Strike 5,277]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Skip this chaos when the economy is already a bit shaky.

Trump made promises when he was campaigning.  This was one of them.  He's gone full bore on all of his promises.  I think most Trump supporters are ok with that.  There are some who voted for him maybe more tepidly who may have some concerns but anyone saying he isn't doing EXACTLY what he promised wasn't listening.  Why should he NOT fulfill his campaign promises when he's trying to be different than all the politicians  who came before him? 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,733]

56 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Futures market shows those down 15% on the week as well thanks to Dumbo!

Speak for yourself.  Unlike the reservoirs in Kalifornia, we’ve stored up enough to weather a drought.  
 

Regardless, we shall overcome because we are the good guys and the good guys always win in the end.   MAGA!!!

[thegeneral 3,000]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

Trump made promises when he was campaigning.  This was one of them.  He's gone full bore on all of his promises.  I think most Trump supporters are ok with that.  There are some who voted for him maybe more tepidly who may have some concerns but anyone saying he isn't doing EXACTLY what he promised wasn't listening.  Why should he NOT fulfill his campaign promises when he's trying to be different than all the politicians  who came before him? 

Good for you. When things are going up people will then react. Kind of how it works.

[squistion 1,982]

You can't make this stuff up. 

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-tariffs-news-04-04-25#cm92rdy6x001t3b6nae24va1e

Trump says China "played it wrong, they panicked" in response to his tariffs

[Strike 5,277]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Good for you. When things are going up people will then react. Kind of how it works.

WAT????? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250]

37 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I could correct your on the many MANY mistakes in your posts, but since you will just dismiss it because it's the MSM, I'm not going to waste my time.  

 

 

But one more time Trump started a trade war with 

Again Australian territories with fisheries. But ok penguins 

[thegeneral 3,000]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

WAT????? 

People are being critical of this terrible roll out for tariffs. Markets are reflecting this. People don’t like this uncertainty.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Me too and it has zero to do with the market 

You're a millionaire who owns zero equities?

[purdygood 338]

29 minutes ago, Strike said:

Trump made promises when he was campaigning.  This was one of them.  He's gone full bore on all of his promises.  I think most Trump supporters are ok with that.  There are some who voted for him maybe more tepidly who may have some concerns but anyone saying he isn't doing EXACTLY what he promised wasn't listening.  Why should he NOT fulfill his campaign promises when he's trying to be different than all the politicians  who came before him? 

Did Mexico pay for that wall?  He makes A LOT of promises...

[RLLD 4,154]

2 minutes ago, purdygood said:

Did Mexico pay for that wall?  He makes A LOT of promises...

And apparently keeps them for the most part

[Mike Honcho 5,148]

Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Order Date in the U.S. to Assess Impact of Trump's Tariffs

Nintendo has taken the unprecedented decision to delay Switch 2 pre-orders, blaming the impact of Trump’s tariffs and “evolving market conditions.”

 

Pre-orders were set to go live on April 9. Nintendo did not share an updated kick-off date.

Nintendo issued IGN the following statement:

Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.

[The Psychic Observer 498]

37 minutes ago, Strike said:

Trump made promises when he was campaigning.  This was one of them.  He's gone full bore on all of his promises.  I think most Trump supporters are ok with that.  There are some who voted for him maybe more tepidly who may have some concerns but anyone saying he isn't doing EXACTLY what he promised wasn't listening.  Why should he NOT fulfill his campaign promises when he's trying to be different than all the politicians  who came before him? 

Did the war end in 24 hours?  Did he bring prices down on day 1?

As to why he shouldn't impose harsh tariffs on anyone, it's obvious as to why of you watch the stock market and gdp projections, along with all of the other economic data.  Unless of course you want a weakened America.

[The Real timschochet 6,534]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

It's uncertainty because of the Tariffs.  Which means as soon as some resolution comes, and it will, the market will move back to where it was.  

This is wrong. The market was uncertain for weeks, the resolution already came on Wednesday. Yesterday and today are a result of the market now being certain, not uncertain, about what is coming: economic bad times, most likely a recession, probably stagflation. We already have the answer. 

[Grace Under Pressure 74]

8 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

As to why he shouldn't impose harsh tariffs on anyone, it's obvious as to why of you watch the stock market and gdp projections, along with all of the other economic data.  Unless of course you want a weakened America.

Dimwits with nothing to lose don't even know what they want. They know that libs should cry more, transgenders and immigrants should be punished. They don't know anything about economics, the stock market, or gdp projections. You are dealing with poorly educated cult followers, most of whom have nothing to lose anyway. In fact, that's one of the appeals of Trump. These losers failed at life, and want to blame DEI, or woke, or Obama for it. Trump gives them that. It's pathetic, and that's who you're dealing with here. The most pathetic, poor, bitter losers who want someone to blame. It's the Trump rally-goers. Notice how they're not invited to Mar-A-Lago though.

Get a clue losers. Your boy, Trump, is a traitor. And you are either just gullible, or also a traitor. Probably both in some cases. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250]

28 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

You're a millionaire who owns zero equities?

I have real estate and businesses, I have about 50-75k in the market/crypto that started with 10k 

 

[Sean Mooney 1,950]

44 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Again Australian territories with fisheries. But ok penguins 

Heard and McDonald Islands - a territory which sits 4,000km (2,485 miles) south-west of Australia - are only accessible via a seven-day boat trip from Perth, and haven't been visited by humans in almost a decade.

 

 

Heard Island, though, is barren, icy and completely uninhabited - home to Australia's largest and only active volcano, Big Ben, and mostly covered by glaciers.

It is believed the last time people ventured on to Heard Island was in 2016, when a group of amateur radio enthusiasts broadcast from there with permission of the Australian government.

The islands are listed by Unesco World Heritage as a rare example of an ecosystem untouched by external plants, animals or human impact.

"It's heavily colonised by penguins and elephant seals and all kinds of sea birds," said Prof Coffin, who studies the undersea geography of the islands.

According to export data from the World Bank, the islands have, over the past few years, usually exported a small amount of products to the US.

But in 2022 the US imported US$1.4m (A$2.23m; ) from the territory, nearly all of it unnamed "machinery and electrical" products.

shipments had been wrongly labelled as coming from the territories, rather than their actual places of origin.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,250]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Heard and McDonald Islands - a territory which sits 4,000km (2,485 miles) south-west of Australia - are only accessible via a seven-day boat trip from Perth, and haven't been visited by humans in almost a decade.

 

 

Heard Island, though, is barren, icy and completely uninhabited - home to Australia's largest and only active volcano, Big Ben, and mostly covered by glaciers.

It is believed the last time people ventured on to Heard Island was in 2016, when a group of amateur radio enthusiasts broadcast from there with permission of the Australian government.

The islands are listed by Unesco World Heritage as a rare example of an ecosystem untouched by external plants, animals or human impact.

"It's heavily colonised by penguins and elephant seals and all kinds of sea birds," said Prof Coffin, who studies the undersea geography of the islands.

According to export data from the World Bank, the islands have, over the past few years, usually exported a small amount of products to the US.

But in 2022 the US imported US$1.4m (A$2.23m; ) from the territory, nearly all of it unnamed "machinery and electrical" products.

shipments had been wrongly labelled as coming from the territories, rather than their actual places of origin.

thanks for proving my point

so now even if a country "wrongly labels" something its covered.  They do fish the area as well.

so when you put it in a computer and you look at a list of countries we have in fact imported from there, and there is a net negative export