SpaceX US threatens to shut off Starlink if Ukraine won't sign minerals deal, sources tell Reuters

[League Champion 1,911]

Damn right!!! Good luck without American munitions, GPS for them and Internet.  

 

The United States has threatened to cut off Ukraine's access to Starlink satellite internet terminals if Kyiv does not reach a deal with the U.S. regarding critical mineral resources, Reuters reported on Feb. 21, citing three sources familiar with the negotiations.

U.S. and Ukrainian officials are currently negotiating the terms of a revised minerals deal after President Volodymyr Zelensky refused to sign an initial proposal. U.S. President Donald Trump said earlier on Feb. 21 that the parties are "pretty close" to an agreement.

U.S. negotiators have warned that Ukraine would lose access to Starlink terminals, owned by billionaire Elon Musk's company SpaceX, if Kyiv did not sign the deal, sources told Reuters.

Starlink internet terminals have played a crucial role in securing communications in the war in Ukraine. Last year, Ukraine said that approximately 42,000 terminals were in operation across the military, hospitals, businesses, and aid organizations.

[squistion 2,203]

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This is outrageous. To coerce Ukraine to sign over its natural resources, Elon Musk is threatening to cut off Starlink. I guess the appropriate response from the EU would be to ban sale of Tesla’s if he does that. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

Friends in high places. Winning. 

[League Champion 1,911]

39 minutes ago, squistion said:

This is outrageous

How?? We're giving them BILLIONS. 

This is great for AMERICANS 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Zelensky will fold like a cheap suit.

#Winning

[League Champion 1,911]

2 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

Zelensky will fold like a cheap suit.

#Winning

Zelensky is Trump's biatch now!  

We got what Putin wanted all along 

[jonmx 2,429]

51 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/Billbrowder/status/1893217423471337854?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

This is outrageous. To coerce Ukraine to sign over its natural resources, Elon Musk is threatening to cut off Starlink. I guess the appropriate response from the EU would be to ban sale of Tesla’s if he does that. 

 

We have given them hundreds of billions and those bastards are trying to squeeze us.   You positions are based 100 percent on being against Trump and fuk what is good and fair for this country.  Typical American-hating authoritarian-worshiping brainwashed bootlicking troll. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Typical American-hating authoritarian-worshiping brainwashed bootlicking troll. 

Couldn’t have said it better myself!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

Did you know that the money Europe has given Ukraine is in the form of a loan?. Ours is just a gift. 

[League Champion 1,911]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Did you know that the money Europe has given Ukraine is in the form of a loan. Ours is just a gift. 

That stops under Trump. We'll own Ukraine before this war is over. 

[squistion 2,203]

16 minutes ago, jonmx said:

We have given them hundreds of billions and those bastards are trying to squeeze us.   You positions are based 100 percent on being against Trump and fuk what is good and fair for this country.  Typical American-hating authoritarian-worshiping brainwashed bootlicking troll. 

Ukraine is trying to squeeze us? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

Trump hangs out with and enlists geniuses. Biden has Hunter. 

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

How are we going to extricate these resources (which, BTW, Russia also covets)? Are we going to have American engineers and workers over there? Who will guarantee their safety? 

Up to this point we were simply aiding a small country invaded by a big country with money and arms, but we weren’t ourselves involved. Now we’re becoming involved long term. If this goes through there will be an American presence in Ukraine. Are we sure this is what we want? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

How are we going to extricate these resources (which, BTW, Russia also covets)? Are we going to have American engineers and workers over there? Who will guarantee their safety? 

Up to this point we were simply aiding a small country invaded by a big country with money and arms, but we weren’t ourselves involved. Now we’re becoming involved long term. If this goes through there will be an American presence in Ukraine. Are we sure this is what we want? 

So now you’re repeating the wisdom of Kamala Harris? Please, continue. 

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

So now you’re repeating the wisdom of Kamala Harris? Please, continue. 

Did Kamala make these arguments? I have no idea. But you’re right she is a smart lady. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Did Kamala make these arguments? I have no idea. But you’re right she is a smart lady. 

Big country, small country. Keep talking like that. It confirms your sheep like qualities. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

"Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically that's wrong."

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

3 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

"Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So basically that's wrong."

This is correct. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Did Kamala make these arguments? I have no idea. But you’re right she is a smart lady. 

76 IQ.   

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

But you guys aren’t responding to my point. Here is what Richard Grenell, Trump’s point man, said yesterday: 

I can’t think of a better security assurance than private equity forces on the ground, American businessmen on the ground…we will have a bunch of Americans in Ukraine…

I think he’s right about this and if I were Zelensky I would agree to this deal based on this point alone. What I’m NOT sure about is that it’s good for the U.S. in exchange for these minerals we are basically guaranteeing Ukraine just as we would under NATO. And isn’t Russia going to be threatened by this? 
 

It’s not like we haven’t tried this before. In the 1960s we made a deal with the shah of Iran in which we would extricate their oil (they didn’t know how to do it themselves) in exchange for a percentage of it (I don’t think it was 50% but close). Thousands of Americans went to work and live in Iran and we set up everything for them. That story didn’t end well. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Let a bunch of Republican donors get access to dig some coal up, it’s what they pay those ballbags for. Put Ukraine into NATO, let Russia have the land they stole. This should be an easy deal to make.

[Cdub100 3,909]

2 hours ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/Billbrowder/status/1893217423471337854?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

This is outrageous. To coerce Ukraine to sign over its natural resources, Elon Musk is threatening to cut off Starlink. I guess the appropriate response from the EU would be to ban sale of Tesla’s if he does that. 

 

The appropriate response from Europe is to give Ukraine its version of Starlink. Oh wait... they don't have that do they?

[League Champion 1,911]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

How are we going to extricate these resources (which, BTW, Russia also covets)? Are we going to have American engineers and workers over there? Who will guarantee their safety? 

Like we do in Africa 

[Red White and Blue 81]

Most of the $ were giving Ukraine is for the purchase of US weapons. So the real transfer of $ is from US taxpayers to US military contractors. 

Ending the war will probably be the one thing Trump does that I like. 

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

27 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Like we do in Africa 

Do you get that Russia is the threat here? 

[Tebok 442]

5 hours ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/Billbrowder/status/1893217423471337854?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

This is outrageous. To coerce Ukraine to sign over its natural resources, Elon Musk is threatening to cut off Starlink. I guess the appropriate response from the EU would be to ban sale of Tesla’s if he does that. 

 

This is way worse than anything Biden was ever accused of doing. 

Extorting Ukraine to profiteer off minerals.

Unbelievable.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

Hopefully Don Jr and Eric can get a job overseeing the mineral operations in Ukraine. Perhaps a position on a board?   

[thegeneral 3,214]

20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hopefully Don Jr and Eric can get a job overseeing the mineral operations in Ukraine. Perhaps a position on a board?   

His dipshet robot son-in-law is the redevelop Gaza guy. You maga cucks lap this stuff up.

[League Champion 1,911]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Do you get that Russia is the threat here? 

Russia isn't touching the US. Putin knows Trump would wipe him off of the planet. 

[League Champion 1,911]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

How are we going to extricate these resources (which, BTW, Russia also covets)? Are we going to have American engineers and workers over there? Who will guarantee their safety? 

Up to this point we were simply aiding a small country invaded by a big country with money and arms, but we weren’t ourselves involved. Now we’re becoming involved long term. If this goes through there will be an American presence in Ukraine. Are we sure this is what we want? 

Business

Musk denies US threat to cut Starlink over Ukraine minerals deal

 

Billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk has denied reports that the United States threatened to shut off Starlink in Ukraine unless Kyiv agreed to a minerals deal.

Responding to a report by Reuters, Musk called the claim "false" and accused the news agency of lying. He offered no evidence to back up his statement.

His response came after the Kyiv Independent shared the news, which cited anonymous sources alleging that Starlink's continued operation in Ukraine was being tied to an agreement over mineral resources.

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9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Friends in high places. Winning. 

Of course this turd loves extortion.

[Horseman 2,458]

3 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Of course this turd loves extortion.

It's a fee market.  Just give them the phone number for Comcast. 

[Horseman 2,458]

7 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

But you guys aren’t responding to my point. 

 

[jerryskids 6,799]

23 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

How are we going to extricate these resources (which, BTW, Russia also covets)? Are we going to have American engineers and workers over there? Who will guarantee their safety? 

Up to this point we were simply aiding a small country invaded by a big country with money and arms, but we weren’t ourselves involved. Now we’re becoming involved long term. If this goes through there will be an American presence in Ukraine. Are we sure this is what we want? 

I don't know exactly what rare minerals are in/under Ukraine, but I believe that we are too reliant on bad hombres like China for some of the ones used for solar panels, EVs, semiconductors, etc.  It would be to our strategic benefit to get access to them.

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

35 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I don't know exactly what rare minerals are in/under Ukraine, but I believe that we are too reliant on bad hombres like China for some of the ones used for solar panels, EVs, semiconductors, etc.  It would be to our strategic benefit to get access to them.

OK. That’s a reasonable argument if true. I haven’t heard anyone on the news, including Trump defenders, make it. I still wish it were being done in a less coercive fashion because I don’t think that aspect is good for us- I prefer the old Theodore Roosevelt strategy of “talk softly and carry a big stick” over “talk harshly and carry a big stick”. But if those minerals are truly vital to our interests then we should pursue obtain them, obviously. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK. That’s a reasonable argument if true. I haven’t heard anyone on the news, including Trump defenders, make it. I still wish it were being done in a less coercive fashion because I don’t think that aspect is good for us- I prefer the old Theodore Roosevelt strategy of “talk softly and carry a big stick” over “talk harshly and carry a big stick”. But if those minerals are truly vital to our interests then we should pursue obtain them, obviously. 

You actually walk around believing that the Obama/ Biden foreign policy was the superior one, despite all evidence to the contrary.  

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK. That’s a reasonable argument if true. I haven’t heard anyone on the news, including Trump defenders, make it. I still wish it were being done in a less coercive fashion because I don’t think that aspect is good for us- I prefer the old Theodore Roosevelt strategy of “talk softly and carry a big stick” over “talk harshly and carry a big stick”. But if those minerals are truly vital to our interests then we should pursue obtain them, obviously. 

There's millions of gallons of oil and coal that's there for our taking. With this we can provide Europe with affordable energy and basically control the region. Not to mention the trillions of dollars in precious metals they have 

[The Real timschochet 6,769]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You actually walk around believing that the Obama/ Biden foreign policy was the superior one, despite all evidence to the contrary.  

Not just Biden and Obama but all modern Presidents prior to Trump. And my view of the “evidence” is apparently far removed from yours. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,439]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Not just Biden and Obama but all modern Presidents prior to Trump. And my view of the “evidence” is apparently far removed from yours. 

The world was on fire and destabilized under Obama. Have you forgotten the Arab Spring? Libya? Syria? The birth of Isis and their subsequent rampage? 

[League Champion 1,911]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden and Obama

Destroyed this Country with their WOKE policies. You're a sick person Tim.