Hardcore troubadour 15,211 Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Fnord said: Well, if assaulting police officers and breaking into a government building is a peaceful selfie fest, this absolutely does not rise to the level of terrorism. Get your head right and get back to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,211 Posted March 20 23 minutes ago, squistion said: Pure scum 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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thegeneral 3,098 Posted March 20 8 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: A straight nose dive right back to where it was in September of 24 after an all time high You're an idiot quit pretending you know what you’re talking about Cyber truck is a flop, their new battery system they were hyping is a flop, their self driving is a flop, there is growing completion in this area and their cars are not leaps and bounds ahead anymore. Let’s look at their stock and valuation. Trickier thing to quantify. Donald’s online diary stock for instance has crazy value and that shet company makes no money and is worthless. We can agree Tesla’s value is based on potential and growth no? Look at their P/E ration versus other leading car makers. Now you have Elon who has alienated like half the country. Other regions don’t seem to be a fan either. Sales are down in EU and China like 50%. Their sales in US are lagging. Some of this based on the factors already talked about but Elon is also a big part of that. That is why you are seeing their stock dropping like 3-4X other big dog tech companies during this sell off. Anecdotally, have owned a Tesla and thought it was an amazing car. Have another EV now and will likely always have at least one EV in my household. I don’t see myself buying another Tesla for a variety of reasons. I am not alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,917 Posted March 20 (1) AmericanPapaBear on X: ""When Conservatives didn't agree with Bud Light we just stopped buying their beer." "When Democrats disagree with Tesla, they turn into ISIS." We are not the same. @elonmusk https://t.co/Fce6RqkVye" / X 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,889 Posted March 20 5 hours ago, thegeneral said: Cyber truck is a flop, their new battery system they were hyping is a flop, their self driving is a flop, there is growing completion in this area and their cars are not leaps and bounds ahead anymore. Truth And so many people are getting hurt because of the sharp edges on all sides. There's a ton of lawsuits happening right now just for that. And the depreciation is insane, as is with most EVs. "Tesla expects Cybertruck values to depreciate by around 30% over the first three years, with some reports suggesting a 40% drop in the first year, indicating a significant loss in value for owners". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,305 Posted March 20 20 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: let me guess some random dude had his SS payment skipped for a day and it was fixed It's not happening. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next-with-kyle-clark/90-year-old-veteran-wrongly-declared-dead-social-security-benefits/73-2998bdd0-c64f-4522-9c2f-cbea4ffa1870 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,303 Posted March 20 52 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: It's not happening. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next-with-kyle-clark/90-year-old-veteran-wrongly-declared-dead-social-security-benefits/73-2998bdd0-c64f-4522-9c2f-cbea4ffa1870 derp derp derp derp When contacted by 9NEWS, the Social Security Administration in Denver promised to help Kind resolve the situation. The office said that of the approximately three million deaths reported annually, less than a third of a percent need to be corrected. However, that still means up to 10,000 people are wrongly declared dead each year. TDS much, or maybe you think this system needs to be FIXED oh wait, I am sure you posted 10,000 stories when Biden was president and this happened every year my bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,096 Posted March 20 https://x.com/TalbertSwan/status/1902370224780755240 Bishop Talbert Swan @TalbertSwan If burning Teslas make you furious, but watching thousands of federal workers get stripped of their jobs, healthcare, and pensions doesn’t move you—YOU are the problem. If scorched cars spark more outrage than billions being slashed from cancer research, humanitarian aid, education, and support for the most vulnerable—your moral compass is broken. This ain’t about Teslas. It’s about twisted priorities, cold-hearted politics, and willful ignorance. Silence in the face of suffering is complicity. Miss us with your fake outrage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,303 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, squistion said: https://x.com/TalbertSwan/status/1902370224780755240 Bishop Talbert Swan @TalbertSwan If burning Teslas make you furious, but watching thousands of federal workers get stripped of their jobs, healthcare, and pensions doesn’t move you—YOU are the problem. If scorched cars spark more outrage than billions being slashed from cancer research, humanitarian aid, education, and support for the most vulnerable—your moral compass is broken. This ain’t about Teslas. It’s about twisted priorities, cold-hearted politics, and willful ignorance. Silence in the face of suffering is complicity. Miss us with your fake outrage. one is terrorism, the other happens every day does your retard you follow care about the regular people who lose jobs DAILY or just ones to scream at TRUMP about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,889 Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/TalbertSwan/status/1902370224780755240 Bishop Talbert Swan @TalbertSwan If burning Teslas make you furious, but watching thousands of federal workers get stripped of their jobs, healthcare, and pensions doesn’t move you—YOU are the problem. If scorched cars spark more outrage than billions being slashed from cancer research, humanitarian aid, education, and support for the most vulnerable—your moral compass is broken. This ain’t about Teslas. It’s about twisted priorities, cold-hearted politics, and willful ignorance. Silence in the face of suffering is complicity. Miss us with your fake outrage. Promoting Violence and destruction but you're worried about a Taco??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,211 Posted March 20 16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: derp derp derp derp When contacted by 9NEWS, the Social Security Administration in Denver promised to help Kind resolve the situation. The office said that of the approximately three million deaths reported annually, less than a third of a percent need to be corrected. However, that still means up to 10,000 people are wrongly declared dead each year. TDS much, or maybe you think this system needs to be FIXED oh wait, I am sure you posted 10,000 stories when Biden was president and this happened every year my bad Gutterboy foiled once again. What a loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted March 20 36 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: one is terrorism, the other happens every day does your retard you follow care about the regular people who lose jobs DAILY or just ones to scream at TRUMP about So you are in favor of slashing money from cancer research, education, and humanitarian efforts because Musk and Trump are doing it? Keep in mind I agreed earlier in the thread burning Teslas and everything was dangerous and idiotic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,303 Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: So you are in favor of slashing money from cancer research, education, and humanitarian efforts because Musk and Trump are doing it? Keep in mind I agreed earlier in the thread burning Teslas and everything was dangerous and idiotic. yes I absolutely do and here is why. I would be in favor of any cuts Biden made as well perfect example Susan Koenig (breast cancer research founder) and her 10 mil annual salary, there is a ton of bloat education is debatable (what are we teaching, what cuts actually affect teaching?) if it means eliminate common core go for it humanitarian efforts again those are subjective, is Sesame Street in Iraq a humanitarian thing? most humanitarian aid has nothing to do with the office convieniently called USAID. Americans can use that money and if YOU want to give, write a check to red cross I believe that EVERY SINGLE organization, business, and govt program can operate after a 10-15% cut with more efficiency at a lower cost 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 275 Posted March 20 50 minutes ago, squistion said: https://x.com/TalbertSwan/status/1902370224780755240 Bishop Talbert Swan @TalbertSwan If burning Teslas make you furious, but watching thousands of federal workers get stripped of their jobs, healthcare, and pensions doesn’t move you—YOU are the problem. If scorched cars spark more outrage than billions being slashed from cancer research, humanitarian aid, education, and support for the most vulnerable—your moral compass is broken. This ain’t about Teslas. It’s about twisted priorities, cold-hearted politics, and willful ignorance. Silence in the face of suffering is complicity. Miss us with your fake outrage. Back to your old ways scouring Twitter all day to find posts. Posting tweets is what got you banned from FBGs as I recall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yes I absolutely do and here is why. I would be in favor of any cuts Biden made as well perfect example Susan Koenig (breast cancer research founder) and her 10 mil annual salary, there is a ton of bloat education is debatable (what are we teaching, what cuts actually affect teaching?) if it means eliminate common core go for it humanitarian efforts again those are subjective, is Sesame Street in Iraq a humanitarian thing? most humanitarian aid has nothing to do with the office convieniently called USAID. Americans can use that money and if YOU want to give, write a check to red cross I believe that EVERY SINGLE organization, business, and govt program can operate after a 10-15% cut with more efficiency at a lower cost Long as you are consistent. Of course there is bloat in everything and I'm okay with finding it. I'm not okay with just hatcheting everything and trying to fix the broken pieces afterwards. I'd be far more receptive to an approach that cleanly audits and looks at everything. This feels like trying to do things quickly rather than effectively. If you did things in a more controlled and deliberate manner it would allow you to set up the infrastructure to adjust to the changes and figure out where things will go. I'm afraid we are going to end up with all these cuts and then trying to see where things can fit and you are going to end up with under staffed, over worked departments trying to do too much which will lead to inefficiencies. And those inefficiencies will harm people short and long term. The education component you list as debatable is where I have an issue with some of this stuff. People don't know what the DOE does (and I'm not being accusatory towards you here in any way) and not in a "They are useless and do nothing" way but rather in a "I literally know nothing about them other than what I'm told." They hear it's tanking test scores. They hear it's indoctrinating kids and they will say "Good now the states can set policy." The states already do that. The local districts already do that. There is an individual set of standards for every state in the country and there are different qualifications for teachers in states all across the country. The federal government doesn't set instructional policy. They try to make sure federal funding helps balance out states funding (because there is less state money in Mississippi than New York). And even that number is small- like 10-11% of school funding comes from the federal level. The DOE does help fund programs for students, and families, that need extra help. Title 1 programs are run through there. The REAP program is run through there. It does hold schools accountable for students succeeding but even that is filtered through state reporting. Without the federal government though you will have different programs for every state. And then there is the information Trump is flat out lying about to make points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,303 Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Long as you are consistent. Of course there is bloat in everything and I'm okay with finding it. I'm not okay with just hatcheting everything and trying to fix the broken pieces afterwards. I'd be far more receptive to an approach that cleanly audits and looks at everything. This feels like trying to do things quickly rather than effectively. If you did things in a more controlled and deliberate manner it would allow you to set up the infrastructure to adjust to the changes and figure out where things will go. I'm afraid we are going to end up with all these cuts and then trying to see where things can fit and you are going to end up with under staffed, over worked departments trying to do too much which will lead to inefficiencies. And those inefficiencies will harm people short and long term. The education component you list as debatable is where I have an issue with some of this stuff. People don't know what the DOE does (and I'm not being accusatory towards you here in any way) and not in a "They are useless and do nothing" way but rather in a "I literally know nothing about them other than what I'm told." They hear it's tanking test scores. They hear it's indoctrinating kids and they will say "Good now the states can set policy." The states already do that. The local districts already do that. There is an individual set of standards for every state in the country and there are different qualifications for teachers in states all across the country. The federal government doesn't set instructional policy. They try to make sure federal funding helps balance out states funding (because there is less state money in Mississippi than New York). And even that number is small- like 10-11% of school funding comes from the federal level. The DOE does help fund programs for students, and families, that need extra help. Title 1 programs are run through there. The REAP program is run through there. It does hold schools accountable for students succeeding but even that is filtered through state reporting. Without the federal government though you will have different programs for every state. And then there is the information Trump is flat out lying about to make points. I worked in the private sector and the govt sector and now own multiple businesses fwiw. In 2 hours working at the post office I saw how simple it would be to save millions. So I assume every other govt agency is pretty similar. I can walk into any business knowing nothing about it and see where the stupid sh1t lies the govt doesn’t fund ANYTHING. The people fund everything. Sending money to the feds to redistribute funds back to the state (while taking their cut) is a ln absolute waste. You can sum up everything in the dept of ed into one person and put them in a diff office. (Maybe 2 people). With automation and ai this is easily achievable 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,096 Posted March 20 39 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: Back to your old ways scouring Twitter all day to find posts. Posting tweets is what got you banned from FBGs as I recall. You recall incorrectly. I was never banned or even suspended at FBGs for posting tweets. After complaints from the MAGA crowd, Joe B. told me to cut down and post fewer tweets, but he never asked me to stop entirely, probably because he was posting tweets himself on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,257 Posted March 20 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: In 2 hours working at the post office I saw how simple it would be to save millions. Every office has a guy like you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,303 Posted March 20 Just now, MDC said: Every office has a guy like you. And I did it. When I was the casino manager at Hollywood park and hustler casino I made cuts for efficiency. It’s really not hard. Of course if you don’t have any real life experience with how businesses are run and how to get by when doing startups you would have no clue. Fry cooks never achieve that level of knowledge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted March 20 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I worked in the private sector and the govt sector and now own multiple businesses fwiw. In 2 hours working at the post office I saw how simple it would be to save millions. So I assume every other govt agency is pretty similar. I can walk into any business knowing nothing about it and see where the stupid sh1t lies the govt doesn’t fund ANYTHING. The people fund everything. Sending money to the feds to redistribute funds back to the state (while taking their cut) is a ln absolute waste. You can sum up everything in the dept of ed into one person and put them in a diff office. (Maybe 2 people). With automation and ai this is easily achievable You should be able to see then pretty clear there is no real semblance of a plan here on anything. We are talking billions of dollars that go through these places and that is not easily just moved from one place to another. And AI isn't the answer Was the post office your govt sector work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,305 Posted March 20 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: perfect example Susan Koenig (breast cancer research founder) and her 10 mil annual salary, there is a ton of bloat WHAT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,190 Posted March 20 Consider this for a moment. While most of America (per polling) wants Democrats to cooperate with Republicans, there is a smaller set of more radical democrats who clearly want their party to go scorched earth. If these crazies on the left are willing to terrorize Tesla et al.....I wonder if these useful idiots suddenly turn on their masters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,305 Posted March 20 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: While most of America (per polling) wants Democrats to cooperate with Republicans link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 226 Posted March 20 9 minutes ago, RLLD said: Consider this for a moment. While most of America (per polling) wants Democrats to cooperate with Republicans, there is a smaller set of more radical democrats who clearly want their party to go scorched earth. If these crazies on the left are willing to terrorize Tesla et al.....I wonder if these useful idiots suddenly turn on their masters? mostly peaceful test drives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted March 20 23 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Wrong. Elon has fired people he is not legally allowed to fire, and a judge has stopped him. He also has cancelled contracts, blocked funding, took back funds, stopped social security payments, etc, of which judges have blocked as being ILLEGAL. A couple rogue judges in rogue leftist districts over extending their power into matters they have no jurisdiction over. I wish Justice Riberts would shut his mouth and do his job by reigning in this judges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted March 20 From AmericanPapaBear and I totally agree “When Conservatives didn't agree with Bud Light we just stopped buying their beer." "When Democrats disagree with Tesla, they turn into ISIS." We are not the same.“ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted March 20 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: A couple rogue judges in rogue leftist districts over extending their power into matters they have no jurisdiction over. I wish Justice Riberts would shut his mouth and do his job by reigning in this judges. A live look at jonmx: https://i1.sndcdn.com/artworks-000086594659-lwpm2h-t500x500.jpg 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: From AmericanPapaBear and I totally agree “When Conservatives didn't agree with Bud Light we just stopped buying their beer." "When Democrats disagree with Tesla, they turn into ISIS." We are not the same.“ There were bomb threats against breweries. There was a ton of violence threatened against the company and the individual at the center of it all. Kid Rock put up videos firing guns at cases of Bud Light... I mean- all of this (Bud Light and Tesla) stuff is just people being ignorant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: There were bomb threats against breweries. There was a ton of violence threatened against the company and the individual at the center of it all. Kid Rock put up videos firing guns at cases of Bud Light... I mean- all of this (Bud Light and Tesla) stuff is just people being ignorant. Not very comparable. I thought the BL boycotts were ridiculous but to compare them to burning vehicles, it's not close. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: There were bomb threats against breweries. There was a ton of violence threatened against the company and the individual at the center of it all. Kid Rock put up videos firing guns at cases of Bud Light... I mean- all of this (Bud Light and Tesla) stuff is just people being ignorant. You can’t compare isolated cases to what is going on with Tesla. Kid Rocks stunt is on par with the lame pols/celebrities videoing them getting rid of their Teslas 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,211 Posted March 20 In the last ten years political violence from the left dwarfs that from the right. It’s not even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,676 Posted March 20 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Not very comparable. I thought the BL boycotts were ridiculous but to compare them to burning vehicles, it's not close. It’s burning charging stations, vandalizing parked cars and actively accosting drivers. They are actively trying to destroy a company the employs 70k Americans and most likely in almost every 401k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,966 Posted March 20 10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Not very comparable. I thought the BL boycotts were ridiculous but to compare them to burning vehicles, it's not close. Even still it was a little more than just "We stopped buying the beer." There are always idiots who will try to escalate something to violence. Those people should have their heads examined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,096 Posted March 20 20 minutes ago, jonmx said: A couple rogue judges in rogue leftist districts over extending their power into matters they have no jurisdiction over. I wish Justice Riberts would shut his mouth and do his job by reigning in this judges. Of course a court has the jurisdiction to look into these matters, that is basic civics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Even still it was a little more than just "We stopped buying the beer." There are always idiots who will try to escalate something to violence. Those people should have their heads examined. What terrible things were done? Threats are bad but they are still only threats. Destroying beer that was already purchased doesn't hurt anyone. Did anyone try burning down the brewery, a distribution center or delivery truck? That would be more comparable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,211 Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: What terrible things were done? Threats are bad but they are still only threats. Destroying beer that was already purchased doesn't hurt anyone. Did anyone try burning down the brewery, a distribution center or delivery truck? That would be more comparable. A 14 year old allegedly called in a threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Of course a court has the jurisdiction to look into these matters, that is basic civics. The President and executive branch has very broad and nearly sole authority over items concerning international relations. Judges trying to exert themselves into how Trump conducts foreign policy and how aid are distributed are completely out of line and have no Consitutional role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,425 Posted March 20 15 minutes ago, HellToupee said: It’s burning charging stations, vandalizing parked cars and actively accosting drivers. They are actively trying to destroy a company the employs 70k Americans and most likely in almost every 401k And they are also doing something called swatting, where they call in false reports of a mass shooting to the authorities so thst local police or FBI show up at residence of conservatives brandishing their weapons ready for a shootout. These focking ledtist bastards are lowlife scum putting people's lives in jeopardy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites