seafoam1 3,086 Posted July 24 51 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: My portfolio went up about 175k the last month. economy feels great to me. Which losers aren’t making money? Keep this Trump recession going is all I have to say. I'm loving it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,480 Posted July 24 11 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: You're a video guy, you watched that video and didn't think Trump man-handled him? Wow. PS. Budget reports span several, even many years depending on how theyre structured. Your TDS is showing. Take a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted July 25 12 hours ago, Horseman said: You're a video guy, you watched that video and didn't think Trump man-handled him? Wow. PS. Budget reports span several, even many years depending on how theyre structured. Your TDS is showing. Take a break. He man-handled him by claiming he overspent because of a building that was built 5 years ago? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,579 Posted July 25 12 hours ago, Horseman said: You're a video guy, you watched that video and didn't think Trump man-handled him? Wow. PS. Budget reports span several, even many years depending on how theyre structured. Your TDS is showing. Take a break. Trump man handled him Wow you are such a simp 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,086 Posted July 25 18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump man handled him Wow you are such a simp "Simp"? You are on this site every day whining about Trump non stop. Just crying out for help. Fock dude, take a chill pill or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,259 Posted July 25 14 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: My portfolio went up about 175k the last month. economy feels great to me. Which losers aren’t making money? Markets are decent. Lagging way behind where Joe and Obama were at this point and they both were destroying our country with their socialism Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted July 25 13 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Keep this Trump recession going is all I have to say. I'm loving it. The jobs factor is something we need to keep an eye on. Jobs are one of the things that has an important influence on inflation. Trump is setting up another sequence of low unemployment as he did before, and that can be rather inflationary...unlike tariffs.... so the Fed should resist lower rates for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,554 Posted July 25 15 hours ago, MDC said: It’s misleading because the article implies that these Ford models won’t go up because they’re “assembled” in the US. If half the parts are manufactured overseas (like the F-150) and shipped here for assembly, why wouldn’t the costs go up? I'll try this just one more time... directly from the website: "Many Ford vehicles are built right here in the United States and will not be impacted by these new tariffs. Here are the American-assembled Ford models you’ll find at Westlie Ford:" - note, they tell you exactly which F-150's: Ford F-150 – Built in Dearborn, MI and Claycomo, MO F-150 Lightning – Built in Dearborn, MI They also say: "If it starts with a 1, 4, or 5, it was assembled in the United States and will not be affected by these import tariffs." I don't see how when someone tells you exactly what is happening, that it can be construed as "misleading". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted July 25 16 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Markets are decent. Lagging way behind where Joe and Obama were at this point and they both were destroying our country with their socialism When the market was up during Biden didn’t people here say a good stock market doesn’t mean the economy is good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,259 Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: When the market was up during Biden didn’t people here say a good stock market doesn’t mean the economy is good? Wouldn’t be shocked. Or there was some other thing that meant it sucked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,497 Posted July 25 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'll try this just one more time... directly from the website: "Many Ford vehicles are built right here in the United States and will not be impacted by these new tariffs. Here are the American-assembled Ford models you’ll find at Westlie Ford:" - note, they tell you exactly which F-150's: Ford F-150 – Built in Dearborn, MI and Claycomo, MO F-150 Lightning – Built in Dearborn, MI They also say: "If it starts with a 1, 4, or 5, it was assembled in the United States and will not be affected by these import tariffs." I don't see how when someone tells you exactly what is happening, that it can be construed as "misleading". I’ll try again, slowly. Your article says (paraphrasing) “Tariffs won’t affect the cost of these cars because they’re assembled in the US.” That’s misleading, because if tariffs increase the cost of the materials the overall cost of the car will go up regardless of where it’s assembled. For example the F-150 is assembled in MI and MO but most of the parts are built overseas. HTH 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,554 Posted July 25 5 minutes ago, MDC said: I’ll try again, slowly. Your article says (paraphrasing) “Tariffs won’t affect the cost of these cars because they’re assembled in the US.” That’s misleading, because if tariffs increase the cost of the materials the overall cost of the car will go up regardless of where it’s assembled. For example the F-150 is assembled in MI and MO but most of the parts are built overseas. HTH I'll try this again... s l o w e r They tell you which ones won't be affected by the tariffs H T H 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,497 Posted July 25 35 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'll try this again... s l o w e r They tell you which ones won't be affected by the tariffs H T H Westie Ford told you about their low low prices? Get out! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted July 25 Democrats worrying about prices and costs.....since it seems politically useful to do so....today..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,554 Posted July 25 22 minutes ago, MDC said: Westie Ford told you about their low low prices? Get out! I'll take your deflection as accepting the "L". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,497 Posted July 25 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'll take your deflection as accepting the "L". I tried to explain it like 4-5 times. You kept telling me a car dealership reassured you that the cars they sell are cheap. I give up you win. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,227 Posted July 25 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Democrats worrying about prices and costs.....since it seems politically useful to do so....today..... Everyone is worrying about prices and costs, which haven't come down as Trump promised they would when he took office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 777 Posted July 25 16 minutes ago, squistion said: Everyone is worrying about prices and costs, which haven't come down as Trump promised they would when he took office. Are you still paying $18 for eggs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted July 25 1 hour ago, squistion said: Everyone is worrying about prices and costs, which haven't come down as Trump promised they would when he took office. Today you pretend to. Hey, worry not...eventually there will be another Democrat in the White House and you can return to not caring... all good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,227 Posted July 25 23 minutes ago, RLLD said: Today you pretend to. Hey, worry not...eventually there will be another Democrat in the White House and you can return to not caring... all good. I am not pretending to and I wasn't pretending when Biden was POTUS (I think I pointed out in some thread that he was not responsible for the raise in the price of eggs nor on the higher prices of the other consumer items (a lot of it was corporate greed of companies raising prices simply because they coud). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted July 25 Just now, squistion said: I am not pretending to and I wasn't pretending when Biden was POTUS (I think I pointed out in some thread that he was nor responsible for the raise in the price of eggs nor on the higher prices of the other consumer items (a lot of it was corporate greed of companies raising prices simply because they coud). The problem Biden was culpable. He attacked energy, which touches everything, and those people price in things that a president says, so that was really stupid, then he lied about inflation which means it then lasted longer and got much worse, then he lied about it being transitory, then he pushed through a bill that threw gas on to the problem...I mean, it was almost as if he was trying to fock things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,361 Posted July 25 Dems put out a great chart showing how bad trumps economy is doing https://www.instagram.com/p/DMiRsGwRPLm/?img_index=1&igsh=MXVjY3R4aHI1MHcyYw== whoops 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted July 25 10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Dems put out a great chart showing how bad trumps economy is doing https://www.instagram.com/p/DMiRsGwRPLm/?img_index=1&igsh=MXVjY3R4aHI1MHcyYw== whoops OMFG......Democrats are so focking stupid 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted July 25 18 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Dems put out a great chart showing how bad trumps economy is doing https://www.instagram.com/p/DMiRsGwRPLm/?img_index=1&igsh=MXVjY3R4aHI1MHcyYw== whoops Check this one out, WH responded with a modified version of their chart.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,512 Posted July 25 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: Check this one out, WH responded with a modified version of their chart.... That’s hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,590 Posted July 25 For those of you who LOVE polls: https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1948594391108497426 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted July 25 10 minutes ago, Strike said: For those of you who LOVE polls: https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1948594391108497426 That is going to ruin the day for every liberal rooting against the success of this nation..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,480 Posted July 25 2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Dems put out a great chart showing how bad trumps economy is doing https://www.instagram.com/p/DMiRsGwRPLm/?img_index=1&igsh=MXVjY3R4aHI1MHcyYw== whoops 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Check this one out, WH responded with a modified version of their chart.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,480 Posted July 25 That sums up the soft brain liberal think perfectly. This thread and SquidTimGutter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,361 Posted July 26 48 minutes ago, squistion said: you should check out the ratings for the entire democrat party you tool New poll shows Democratic Party with lowest favorability rating in decades Democrats Get Lowest Rating From Voters in 35 Years, WSJ Poll Finds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted July 26 15 hours ago, Strike said: For those of you who LOVE polls: https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1948594391108497426 51% of people rate it “not so good/poor,” I’m not sure that’s the win you think it is. I’d be curious to see their January numbers, my guess is the “not so good/poor” shot up after Liberation Day then came back down after TACO on a lot of the bigger tariffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,579 Posted July 26 16 hours ago, Strike said: For those of you who LOVE polls: https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1948594391108497426 Gotta love Strike cherry picking polls that he likes after accusing others of doing the same thing when there are polls he doesn't like Same Twitter user has other polls showing the economy around 38%/39% Here is how you read polls, you look for the aggregate. That means you average the polls together to get a better snapshot. It smooths out the outliers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted July 26 12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Gotta love Strike cherry picking polls that he likes after accusing others of doing the same thing when there are polls he doesn't like Same Twitter user has other polls showing the economy around 38%/39% Here is how you read polls, you look for the aggregate. That means you average the polls together to get a better snapshot. It smooths out the outliers. Well hopefully he doesn’t “like” 51% of people saying the economy isn’t so good. Personally I think all polls are stupid, but monitoring changes in the same poll can be relevant. I just think the cherry-picking he’s actually doing is when it’s comparing against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,579 Posted July 26 26 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well hopefully he doesn’t “like” 51% of people saying the economy isn’t so good. Personally I think all polls are stupid, but monitoring changes in the same poll can be relevant. I just think the cherry-picking he’s actually doing is when it’s comparing against. Biden gave trump a great economy. Trump sh1t on it with the tariffs. Trump taco'ed the tariffs. Economy perception comes back. It's very simple when you have a brain to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted July 26 On 7/24/2025 at 5:36 PM, MDC said: It’s misleading because the article implies that these Ford models won’t go up because they’re “assembled” in the US. If half the parts are manufactured overseas (like the F-150) and shipped here for assembly, why wouldn’t the costs go up? I agree that that dealership website is being misleading (shocker!) by only focusing on where it’s assembled. But keep in mind that while costs to Ford will go up unless they use 100% of parts not impacted by tariffs, that doesn’t necessarily mean prices to consumers will as well, if demand drops. If that happens, it’s good for consumers, but not so good for the earnings potential and job security of people working in the manufacturing plants and dealerships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,579 Posted July 26 As the Trump administration guts and otherwise interferes with federal statistical agencies, nearly 90 percent of economists recently surveyed by Reuters are concerned about the reliability of official government data on the economy. From July 11 to 24, Reuters polled economists—including “Nobel Laureates, former policymakers, academics from top U.S. universities, and economists from major banks, consultancies and think tanks”—and found that 89 of 100 of them “were concerned about the quality of official U.S. economic data,” with 41 saying they are “very concerned.” https://newrepublic.com/post/198464/economists-alarmed-official-data-trump-economy-poll You mean they guy that lies about everything could be lying about economic data? You're kidding! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,595 Posted July 26 9 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you should check out the ratings for the entire democrat party you tool New poll shows Democratic Party with lowest favorability rating in decades Democrats Get Lowest Rating From Voters in 35 Years, WSJ Poll Finds Soar baby, soar! A new Wall Street Journal poll released today reveals a striking 11-point surge in the number of Americans who rate the U.S. economy as "excellent" or "good," the most positive outlook recorded in Journal surveys since 2021. This surge in economic optimism appears to be giving President Donald Trump a critical boost in his political standing — even as voters voice concerns with key aspects of his domestic and trade agenda. According to the poll, 47% of registered voters now view the economy in positive terms, up from just 36% in April. This shift marks a significant break in a yearslong trend of economic pessimism that has defined much of the post-pandemic era. Meanwhile, the percentage of respondents who rated the economy as "not good" or "poor" dropped to 51%, a substantial improvement from 63% just three months ago. This economic mood shift has narrowed the public's overall pessimism. In April, by a margin of 26 points, more voters said the economy was getting worse than said it was getting better. That gap has now shrunk to just 8 points — still negative, but notably improved. The number of Americans reporting that inflation is causing them serious financial hardship has also declined. The improved economic outlook comes at a time when President Trump is navigating a mixed bag of political headwinds, including the debate over his signature tax-and-spending bill, skepticism about his tariff agenda, and growing public distrust of the Justice Department's investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. Yet Trump's approval rating remains resilient. The poll finds him with 46% job approval — higher than the 40% he had at this point in his first term. Remarkably, that figure sits at the upper end of the narrow band in which his approval has historically hovered. Two other leading polls out this week had higher approval numbers for Trump, with Trafalgar/InsiderAdvantage showing him at 50% and Rasmussen at 49%. Another area of deep public concern highlighted in the survey is the Epstein investigation. An overwhelming 76% of respondents — including 64% of Republicans — believe the Department of Justice is withholding important information related to the case of Jeffrey Epstein, the late financier with ties to powerful top Democratic Party figures including former President Bill Clinton. Despite these controversies, the Journal poll suggests that Trump's political durability remains strong — especially in the face of a potentially shifting economic narrative. His supporters point to the latest numbers as proof that his policies, particularly around growth and deregulation, are beginning to bear fruit. https://x.com/owengregorian/status/1949070403873440031?s=46 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,918 Posted July 26 1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said: Soar baby, soar! A new Wall Street Journal poll released today reveals a striking 11-point surge in the number of Americans who rate the U.S. economy as "excellent" or "good," the most positive outlook recorded in Journal surveys since 2021. This surge in economic optimism appears to be giving President Donald Trump a critical boost in his political standing — even as voters voice concerns with key aspects of his domestic and trade agenda. According to the poll, 47% of registered voters now view the economy in positive terms, up from just 36% in April. This shift marks a significant break in a yearslong trend of economic pessimism that has defined much of the post-pandemic era. Meanwhile, the percentage of respondents who rated the economy as "not good" or "poor" dropped to 51%, a substantial improvement from 63% just three months ago. This economic mood shift has narrowed the public's overall pessimism. In April, by a margin of 26 points, more voters said the economy was getting worse than said it was getting better. That gap has now shrunk to just 8 points — still negative, but notably improved. The number of Americans reporting that inflation is causing them serious financial hardship has also declined. The improved economic outlook comes at a time when President Trump is navigating a mixed bag of political headwinds, including the debate over his signature tax-and-spending bill, skepticism about his tariff agenda, and growing public distrust of the Justice Department's investigation into Jeffrey Epstein. Yet Trump's approval rating remains resilient. The poll finds him with 46% job approval — higher than the 40% he had at this point in his first term. Remarkably, that figure sits at the upper end of the narrow band in which his approval has historically hovered. Two other leading polls out this week had higher approval numbers for Trump, with Trafalgar/InsiderAdvantage showing him at 50% and Rasmussen at 49%. Another area of deep public concern highlighted in the survey is the Epstein investigation. An overwhelming 76% of respondents — including 64% of Republicans — believe the Department of Justice is withholding important information related to the case of Jeffrey Epstein, the late financier with ties to powerful top Democratic Party figures including former President Bill Clinton. Despite these controversies, the Journal poll suggests that Trump's political durability remains strong — especially in the face of a potentially shifting economic narrative. His supporters point to the latest numbers as proof that his policies, particularly around growth and deregulation, are beginning to bear fruit. https://x.com/owengregorian/status/1949070403873440031?s=46 Did they take this poll on the moon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,497 Posted July 26 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: I agree that that dealership website is being misleading (shocker!) by only focusing on where it’s assembled. But keep in mind that while costs to Ford will go up unless they use 100% of parts not impacted by tariffs, that doesn’t necessarily mean prices to consumers will as well, if demand drops. If that happens, it’s good for consumers, but not so good for the earnings potential and job security of people working in the manufacturing plants and dealerships. No disagreement here. Just saying, the fact that Fords are manufactured here doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t be impacted by tariffs, no matter what TBay’s car dealership link says lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites