Tebok 417 Posted April 13 Americans not getting their checks. Americans unable to reach anyone on the phone. Insane lines at Social Security offices. A system that has been reliable for 90 years is unraveling and being destroyed Trump's America. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,137 Posted April 13 NBC news just had to settle for 30 million dollars with an OBGYN that they reported was performing unnecessary hysterectomies at an immigrant detention center. Maddow was the main culprit but many of MSNBC’s TV anchors were also implicated and were subpoenaed to testify in the court case that was scheduled to begin in late April before the settlement. Left wing media is like a gold mine these days. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 It's a Ponzi scheme, & the so-called trust fund contains nothing but IOUs. To put that in layman's terms, every month that inflow's are smaller than outflows (which has been every month for a long time) the SS administration presents the US treasury with one of those IOUs, & since the US treasury is already broke, they have to issue more debt to cover it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,060 Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, easilyscan said: It's a Ponzi scheme, & the so-called trust fund contains nothing but IOUs. That was guaranteed by the government to those who paid in - that was the promise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,137 Posted April 13 12 minutes ago, easilyscan said: It's a Ponzi scheme, & the so-called trust fund contains nothing but IOUs. To put that in layman's terms, every month that inflow's are smaller than outflows (which has been every month for a long time) the SS administration presents the US treasury with one of those IOUs, & since the US treasury is already broke, they have to issue more debt to cover it. Boomers got theirs. They DGAF. Same losers getting paid to protest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 14 minutes ago, squistion said: That was guaranteed by the government to those who paid in - that was the promise. You're right, there was another promise as well. From day one, social Security benefits were supposed to be explicitly excluded from federal income taxation. (A revision was issued in 1970, but it made no changes in the existing policy.) ex·plic·it·ly in a clear & detailed manner, leaving no room for confusion or doubt. That changed in 1983. Because both sides of the political aisle refused to stop dipping into what @ one time was a real surplus, by 1983 congress decided to tax up to 50% of benefits for individuals who had a certain amount of other retirement income. 10 years later in 1993, they decided to change that to 85% of benefits. The lowlife motherfockers have yet to at least find the decency to adjust those levels of income for inflation. Your boy Joe Biden voted in favor of the taxation both years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Boomers got theirs. They DGAF. Same losers getting paid to protest. That surprises me coming from you. One of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,137 Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, easilyscan said: That surprises me coming from you. One of the most ignorant statements I've ever heard. What do you mean? Boomers are the ones that hav overseen the insolvency. They are the generation that has benefited the most from it. What you left out of your statement above is that also in 1983 the contribution rate was doubled. Boomers paid half of what the rest of us have paid for a good chunk of their work history. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 44 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What do you mean? Boomers are the ones that hav overseen the insolvency. They are the generation that has benefited the most from it. What you left out of your statement above is that also in 1983 the contribution rate was doubled. Boomers paid half of what the rest of us have paid for a good chunk of their work history. What would you have done if you were one of them ? I'll admit you brought up an interesting point regarding the contribution rate change in 1983. I would very much like to hear how that's their fault, & not the blame of Biden and others who decided to tax it. Maybe this is what you're getting at ? I can't find the file/folder on my computer right now, but I'm sure I remember reading an article that said the reason they were able to pass Social Security reform in 1983, was because those that would be affected were 13 years old at the time. Maybe that's you ? I'd honestly love to hear why you feel strongly enough to call boomers losers. It's certainly possible I'm missing something. Regards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,330 Posted April 13 Someone sounds like they favor government over the people. WTF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,137 Posted April 13 12 minutes ago, easilyscan said: What would you have done if you were one of them ? I'll admit you brought up an interesting point regarding the contribution rate change in 1983. I would very much like to hear how that's their fault, & not the blame of Biden and others who decided to tax it. Maybe this is what you're getting at ? I can't find the file/folder on my computer right now, but I'm sure I remember reading an article that said the reason they were able to pass Social Security reform in 1983, was because those that would be affected were 13 years old at the time. Maybe that's you ? I'd honestly love to hear why you feel strongly enough to call boomers losers. It's certainly possible I'm missing something. Regards I’m not calling them losers. But they have certainly pushed the problem onto the next generation. They have been in power longer than any generation in history and have had nothing reduced or denied to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,909 Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m not calling them losers. But they have certainly pushed the problem onto the next generation. They have been in power longer than any generation in history and have had nothing reduced or denied to them. They haven't been in power. The crushing, evil Government had them under the boot too. Do you think they had any say over what the kidfukking demons in Congress did to them? You're blaming the victims. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,159 Posted April 13 Evil government. Shame. But keep supporting them with your votes. Colossians 3:3. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. Indeed Amen Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 13 hours ago, weepaws said: Evil government. Shame. But keep supporting them with your votes. You mention that quite often, but never suggest/mention possible solutions. Do you have any ideas ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,137 Posted April 13 1 minute ago, easilyscan said: You mention that quite often, but never suggest/mention possible solutions. Do you have any ideas ? Did you really just ask that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Did you really just ask that? You got me there troubadour. What was I thinking ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,137 Posted April 13 Just now, easilyscan said: You got me there troubadour. What was I thinking ? It’s fine. Indeed. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 417 Posted April 13 18 hours ago, easilyscan said: It's a Ponzi scheme, & the so-called trust fund contains nothing but IOUs. To put that in layman's terms, every month that inflow's are smaller than outflows (which has been every month for a long time) the SS administration presents the US treasury with one of those IOUs, & since the US treasury is already broke, they have to issue more debt to cover it. You're just parroting Musk. What do you propose doing for the 70 million Americans who are living on Social Security, with about 40 percent of those relying on it for at least 50 percent of their income? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Tebok said: You're just parroting Musk. What do you propose doing for the 70 million Americans who are living on Social Security, with about 40 percent of those relying on it for at least 50 percent of their income? I propose they keep receiving it, but changes need to be made going forward. Partial privatization for instance. Partial privatization of Social Security involves diverting a portion of the payroll tax into private retirement accounts, managed by individuals rather than the government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,872 Posted April 13 Back when I was an independent, I was so mad at Bush for even suggesting we privatized SS. He was 100% right. Everyone would be better off, including the markets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 13 Early in 2015, myself & several other coworkers discussed Social Security. I was the only conservative in the bunch & expressed concerns over the future. They told me my worries were unfounded. One of the women decided it would be a good idea to contact Tim Walz. Not surprisingly, his response was less than truthful. TIMOTHY J. WALZ CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES FIRST DISTRICT, MINNESOTA February 20, 2015 Dear Mrs. **** Thank you for contacting me about Social Security. I appreciate hearing from you on this important matter. Like you, I am absolutely dedicated to preserving the financial security of America’s seniors, and I will do everything in my power to defend the quality of life Social Security provides to older Americans. My father passed away when I was a young adult, and the Social Security survivor benefits that my mother and younger brother received played an important part in keeping our family stable through that very difficult time. I am committed to ensuring that not only will Social Security be there for current seniors, but that it also remains strong for other families in need and for future generations of Americans who will someday retire. For retirees, their dependents, and the disabled, Social Security provides a minimum level of financial security. Opponents of Social Security have exaggerated the program’s financial challenges, even referring to the program as “bankrupt.” It’s not. Current and future retirees can count on Social Security to help preserve their way of life. Social Security isn’t meant to replace other responsible retirement planning and savings. Rather, Social Security is a fail-safe for Americans to help enjoy a comfortable and secure retirement. After a life-time of work and contributions to our economy, Americans have earned this vital financial protection. Some have proposed privatizing the Social Security program. This would mean subjecting your guaranteed retiree benefits to the fluctuations of the Wall Street stock markets. Had Social Security been privatized prior to 2008, every single retiree would have seen their safety net evaporate. I do not support the privatization of Social Security and will oppose any effort to do so. We have the time necessary to develop a thoughtful plan to preserve Social Security for future generations. I will keep your thoughts and concerns in mind as Congress continues to debate this important issue. Thank you again for sharing your views with me, and I look forward to hearing from you again in the future. For more information about my activities representing southern Minnesota in Congress, please visit http://walz.house.gov and sign up for my e-newsletter. Sincerely, Tim Walz MEMBER OF CONGRESS This e-mail may contain PRIVILEGED OR CONFIDENTIAL information and is intended only for the use of the specific individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged and confidential under state and federal law. This information may be used or disclosed only in accordance with law, and you may be subject to penalties under law for improper use or further disclosure of the information in this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please let our office know and then delete this email. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 727 Posted April 14 22 hours ago, Tebok said: Americans not getting their checks. Americans unable to reach anyone on the phone. Insane lines at Social Security offices. A system that has been reliable for 90 years is unraveling and being destroyed Trump's America. We know you are insecure Rusty. No need to flaunt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 417 Posted April 14 Story time: This is a real couple I know, two hardworking Americans who paid their dues. Roger and Samantha, now both in their 70s. Roger spent his life working on the line as an auto mechanic. Made great money. Samantha worked in an elementary-school cafeteria. Neither had any kind of pension or employee-sponsored retirement plan. Raised three sons whom the couple was able to put through college through hard work and sacrifice. Decent, hard-working, loving Christian people. They never had all they wanted but had all that they needed. Went to church, never drank, did what they could for their kids on Christmas and have led a godly life. They didn't get their desperately needed Social Security checks this month. They've called and haven't managed to get through. Their local Social Security office has closed. They're worried about this month's bills. Trump's American. I've put their names in my church's daily prayer group. Pray for Roger and Samantha. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,868 Posted April 14 12 minutes ago, Tebok said: Story time: This is a real couple I know, two hardworking Americans who paid their dues. Roger and Samantha, now both in their 70s. Roger spent his life working on the line as an auto mechanic. Made great money. Samantha worked in an elementary-school cafeteria. Neither had any kind of pension or employee-sponsored retirement plan. Raised three sons whom the couple was able to put through college through hard work and sacrifice. Decent, hard-working, loving Christian people. They never had all they wanted but had all that they needed. Went to church, never drank, did what they could for their kids on Christmas and have led a godly life. They didn't get their desperately needed Social Security checks this month. They've called and haven't managed to get through. Their local Social Security office has closed. They're worried about this month's bills. Trump's American. I've put their names in my church's daily prayer group. Pray for Roger and Samantha. Sounds like a personal problem. Maybe they should have planned their lives out better. Poor pimpledoosh. Passing off wanting to help people onto someone else other than himself. And then whining about it. And what is "Trump's American"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 370 Posted April 14 There is no good solution. Somewhere down the line benefits are going to have to be reduced or the benefit age is going to have to go up, or some combination. This isn’t new. When I first got out of school way back in the mid-90s I pretty much wrote off every dime I had to “pay in” because there was already a projected shortfall. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 14 26 minutes ago, Tebok said: Story time: This is a real couple I know, two hardworking Americans who paid their dues. Roger and Samantha, now both in their 70s. Roger spent his life working on the line as an auto mechanic. Made great money. Samantha worked in an elementary-school cafeteria. Neither had any kind of pension or employee-sponsored retirement plan. Raised three sons whom the couple was able to put through college through hard work and sacrifice. Decent, hard-working, loving Christian people. They never had all they wanted but had all that they needed. Went to church, never drank, did what they could for their kids on Christmas and have led a godly life. They didn't get their desperately needed Social Security checks this month. They've called and haven't managed to get through. Their local Social Security office has closed. They're worried about this month's bills. Trump's American. I've put their names in my church's daily prayer group. Pray for Roger and Samantha. Some people may not have received their April 2025 Social Security payments yet, even though the payments are being issued throughout the month. This is due to the Social Security Administration (SSA) using a staggered distribution schedule, where payments are issued on different dates depending on factors like when benefits were approved and date of birth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 417 Posted April 14 7 minutes ago, easilyscan said: Some people may not have received their April 2025 Social Security payments yet, even though the payments are being issued throughout the month. This is due to the Social Security Administration (SSA) using a staggered distribution schedule, where payments are issued on different dates depending on factors like when benefits were approved and date of birth. Hard-working Americans have been getting their Social Security checks on schedule for 90 years. Now they are not. Quit making excuses and wake up. Our country is going down the toilet. Our hard-working seniors deserve better. Meanwhile, MAGAs propagate fake conspiracy theories, whatabout and make excuses. Americans can't get through to Social Security via phone. Americans can't get into a Social Security office. Americans aren't getting their checks. Children are dying and people are suffering because of an anti-vax mentality thanks to a disease that could have been eradicated decades ago. Trump's America. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,340 Posted April 14 37 minutes ago, Tebok said: Story time: This is a real couple I know, two hardworking Americans who paid their dues. Roger and Samantha, now both in their 70s. Roger spent his life working on the line as an auto mechanic. Made great money. Samantha worked in an elementary-school cafeteria. Neither had any kind of pension or employee-sponsored retirement plan. Raised three sons whom the couple was able to put through college through hard work and sacrifice. Decent, hard-working, loving Christian people. They never had all they wanted but had all that they needed. Went to church, never drank, did what they could for their kids on Christmas and have led a godly life. They didn't get their desperately needed Social Security checks this month. They've called and haven't managed to get through. Their local Social Security office has closed. They're worried about this month's bills. Trump's American. I've put their names in my church's daily prayer group. Pray for Roger and Samantha. So they made great money but can't afford to cover their bills for one month in retirement without their social security check? I'm going to call BS on this one. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 417 Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Strike said: So they made great money but can't afford to cover their bills for one month in retirement without their social security check? I'm going to call BS on this one. Great money to feed their family, pay a mortgage and put their kids through college. Now the retirement plan America promised has been pulled out from under them. Trump's America. Your America. Good job supporting suffering because your cult leader has convinced you it isn't happening. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,868 Posted April 14 25 minutes ago, Tebok said: Great money to feed their family, pay a mortgage and put their kids through college. Now the retirement plan America promised has been pulled out from under them. Trump's America. Your America. Good job supporting suffering because your cult leader has convinced you it isn't happening. So they made great money, and now they are suffering Americans. They sound like idiots. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,868 Posted April 14 28 minutes ago, Tebok said: Great money to feed their family, pay a mortgage and put their kids through college. Now the retirement plan America promised has been pulled out from under them. Trump's America. Your America. Good job supporting suffering because your cult leader has convinced you it isn't happening. They spent every penny they made in life without a plan for retirement. They have to be the dumbest people I've ever heard of. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,137 Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Tebok said: Story time: This is a real couple I know, two hardworking Americans who paid their dues. Roger and Samantha, now both in their 70s. Roger spent his life working on the line as an auto mechanic. Made great money. Samantha worked in an elementary-school cafeteria. Neither had any kind of pension or employee-sponsored retirement plan. Raised three sons whom the couple was able to put through college through hard work and sacrifice. Decent, hard-working, loving Christian people. They never had all they wanted but had all that they needed. Went to church, never drank, did what they could for their kids on Christmas and have led a godly life. They didn't get their desperately needed Social Security checks this month. They've called and haven't managed to get through. Their local Social Security office has closed. They're worried about this month's bills. Trump's American. I've put their names in my church's daily prayer group. Pray for Roger and Samantha. Sounds like a story that’s being passed around the internet with different names sometimes. What a sad bastard you are. Joke 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,340 Posted April 14 55 minutes ago, Tebok said: Great money to feed their family, pay a mortgage and put their kids through college. Now the retirement plan America promised has been pulled out from under them. Trump's America. Your America. Good job supporting suffering because your cult leader has convinced you it isn't happening. Didn't address my point. Typical lefty. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,868 Posted April 14 Liberals are this desperate. It's sad. Pathetic may be a better word... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 902 Posted April 14 3 hours ago, Tebok said: Quit making excuses and wake up. I gave you a possible explanation & that's the thanks I get ? Stay classy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,662 Posted April 14 I've been out of it for a while with my surgery. Can someone tell me what exactly Trump did to SS to cause Rusty to post a fake internet story about it? Are offices really closed? People not getting checks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,340 Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I've been out of it for a while with my surgery. Can someone tell me what exactly Trump did to SS to cause Rusty to post a fake internet story about it? Are offices really closed? People not getting checks? I'm not sure but what I *do* know is no one is losing it. There may be a slight delay due to DOGE related activities but people will get paid and the suggestion that someone who made good money can't survive that slight delay is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,392 Posted April 14 15 hours ago, Tebok said: Great money to feed their family, pay a mortgage and put their kids through college. Now the retirement plan America promised has been pulled out from under them. Trump's America. Your America. Good job supporting suffering because your cult leader has convinced you it isn't happening. Mortgage at 70. Bwhahahahahahahah Good discipline with their money. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,392 Posted April 14 16 hours ago, Tebok said: Story time: This is a real couple I know, two hardworking Americans who paid their dues. Roger and Samantha, now both in their 70s. Roger spent his life working on the line as an auto mechanic. Made great money. Samantha worked in an elementary-school cafeteria. Neither had any kind of pension or employee-sponsored retirement plan. Raised three sons whom the couple was able to put through college through hard work and sacrifice. Decent, hard-working, loving Christian people. They never had all they wanted but had all that they needed. Went to church, never drank, did what they could for their kids on Christmas and have led a godly life. They didn't get their desperately needed Social Security checks this month. They've called and haven't managed to get through. Their local Social Security office has closed. They're worried about this month's bills. Trump's American. I've put their names in my church's daily prayer group. Pray for Roger and Samantha. School cafeteria employees can participate in the state funded retirement plans. Your lady chose to smoke ciggs and have a new ride instead. Not my fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 727 Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Mortgage at 70. Bwhahahahahahahah Good discipline with their money. Mortgage AND broke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
