Harvard: Trump administration terminated Harvard’s student visa program, forcing international students to leave US.

[iam90sbaby 2,513]

On 4/15/2025 at 3:48 PM, TBayXXXVII said:

Ok. I'll take your word for it.

Why would you do that 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

7 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Upholding the Civil Rights Amendment is illegal?

What are you talking about about?

[TBayXXXVII 2,497]

9 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

Why would you do that 

I wasn't being serious.  I just know to go down that rabbit hole will yield a lot of b.s. and not worth wasting my time. 

[jerryskids 6,604]

5 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

What are you talking about about?

Harvard is nurturing an environment of antisemitism.  

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Yes, Jewish people are protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, particularly under Title VI, which prohibits discrimination based on national origin. Title VI also prohibits discrimination based on race and color. While Title VI doesn't explicitly mention religion, the U.S. government has interpreted it to include discrimination against Jewish people based on their shared ancestry and ethnic characteristics. 

 

[The Psychic Observer 498]

45 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Harvard is nurturing an environment of antisemitism.  

 

Yeah right.  It's not an excuse or anything.

Look if there is antisemitism on campus it should be stopped, obviously.  But that's just a red herring.  Trump is extorting institutions, traditionally liberal institutions to bend to his will.  Law firms, universities, media.  It's all an exercise in authoritarianism but I'm sure you just refuse to see it.

[The Real timschochet 6,541]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Harvard is nurturing an environment of antisemitism.  

 

The problem is that Trump’s demands have more to do with getting rid of DEI and African-American history and a number of other issues that have nothing to do with anti-semitism. 

[MDC 7,187]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The problem is that Trump’s demands have more to do with getting rid of DEI and African-American history and a number of other issues that have nothing to do with anti-semitism. 

The other problem is Trump and MAGAs think any criticism of Israel is a Call for the Extermination of Jews. 

From the River to the Sea … Reeee!!!  

[jerryskids 6,604]

12 minutes ago, MDC said:

The other problem is Trump and MAGAs think any criticism of Israel is a Call for the Extermination of Jews. 

From the River to the Sea … Reeee!!!  

Those college kids are ignorant and just repeating words they hear.  Especially the 30 year old Palestinian students from Syria who have been trained in the UNRWA Hamas training grounds. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,052]

Islam is anti Jew. They say so all the time.  Not just anti Israel.  

[jerryskids 6,604]

25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The problem is that Trump’s demands have more to do with getting rid of DEI and African-American history and a number of other issues that have nothing to do with anti-semitism. 

It's both.  On the DEI side, I've seen my own school explode in the number of DEI and DEI-adjacent staff.  These salaries get paid for, in part, by the money skimmed off the top for "administration" of federal grants, which is why Trump put in the 15% limit.  Our tax dollars shouldn't pay for that stuff.

[Engorgeous George 2,210]

The government teat is drying up and some don't like that.

[MDC 7,187]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Those college kids are ignorant and just repeating words they hear.  Especially the 30 year old Palestinian students from Syria who have been trained in the UNRWA Hamas training grounds. 

 

It would be nice if we had a POTUS you could trust to differentiate whatever students you’re talking about from regular protestors, but Trump has amply proven his clown show incompetence and it’s not even May.  

[jerryskids 6,604]

53 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Yeah right.  It's not an excuse or anything.

Look if there is antisemitism on campus it should be stopped, obviously.  But that's just a red herring.  Trump is extorting institutions, traditionally liberal institutions to bend to his will.  Law firms, universities, media.  It's all an exercise in authoritarianism but I'm sure you just refuse to see it.

I don't completely disagree with this.  There is antisemitism on campuses, and Trump is using that as a wedge to attack the higher problem of systemic, DEFCON 1 Leftism on most campuses.  

I'll admit that I don't know how to fix that latter problem.  I think it is a very serious problem (I'll stop short of "existential," as I don't want to dilute the importance of that word) that needs addressing though, and my hope is that the courts rein in whatever needs reining.

I think we are seeing Trump's "art of the deal" on a macro scale -- ask for everything and try to negotiate back from there.  I think that is probably a fine approach for this problem.  I'm more concerned about the approach with tariffs and other global issues, over which we as a country do not have control.

[jerryskids 6,604]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

It would be nice if we had a POTUS you could trust to differentiate whatever students you’re talking about from regular protestors, but Trump has amply proven his clown show incompetence and it’s not even May.  

I described Khalil, the hero victim of your side.   

If there are students with no ties to terrorism and who haven't terrorized Jews on campus, I agree with you.  Feel free to list them and their claim to innocence. 

 

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12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I described Khalil, the hero victim of your side.   

If there are students with no ties to terrorism and who haven't terrorized Jews on campus, I agree with you.  Feel free to list them and their claim to innocence. 

 

As we’ve seen at the Geek Club, hysterical MAGAs think “from the River to the Sea” is a genocidal death threat. I don’t trust the agitated old lady in charge to make this call. He’s not exactly a rock of stability.  

[jerryskids 6,604]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

As we’ve seen at the Geek Club, hysterical MAGAs think “from the River to the Sea” is a genocidal death threat. I don’t trust the agitated old lady in charge to make this call. He’s not exactly a rock of stability.  

I'll take that as "I've got no examples, I just want to rant again about Trump."  Carry on. 

[MDC 7,187]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I'll take that as "I've got no examples, I just want to rant again about Trump."  Carry on. 

Is there a way to discuss Trump’s policies without mentioning the POTUS?

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Those college kids are ignorant and just repeating words they hear.  Especially the 30 year old Palestinian students from Syria who have been trained in the UNRWA Hamas training grounds. 

 

Let them defend Harvard. Normies don’t care about Harvard and don’t want them supported by taxpayers. . They have the absolute worst scores for freedom of speech amongst ALL colleges in America. They were admonished and defeated by the Supreme Court because they were discriminating in their admissions process and violated the Constitution. And, they allowed anti Semitism to fester unchecked on campus to such a degree that it led to the ouster of their plagiarist DEI hire President because of her incompetence in dealing with it. 

[squistion 1,991]

22 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Let them defend Harvard. Normies don’t care about Harvard and don’t want them supported by taxpayers. . They have the absolute worst scores for freedom of speech amongst ALL colleges in America. They were admonished and defeated by the Supreme Court because they were discriminating in their admissions process and violated the Constitution. And, they allowed anti Semitism to fester unchecked on campus to such a degree that it led to the ouster of their plagiarist DEI hire President because of her incompetence in dealing with it. 

According to whom?

[MDC 7,187]

38 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Normies don’t care about Harvard 

True. So why is American First guy wasting his time going after some of the best universities and law centers in the world?

Ran out of problems to fix already?  

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

16 minutes ago, squistion said:

According to whom?

Your gay lover

[Hardcore troubadour 15,052]

35 minutes ago, squistion said:

According to whom?

This guy. Still using the SPLC as a source? 

[Mark Davis 350]

Harvard has an endowment of over $50 billion.  The interest alone if that is invested in the most conservative vehicle is in excess of the $2.2 billion funding.  If I'm not mistaken they also have tax exempt status.  I'm not sure why we are subsidizing them with taxpayer dollars at all, regardless of all the other debate.

[jerryskids 6,604]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

According to whom?

FIRE

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1. Harvard University is this year’s bottom ranked school for free speech for the second year in a row. Joining it in the bottom three are Columbia University and New York University. All three of these schools have an “Abysmal” speech climate. The University of Pennsylvania and Barnard College round out the bottom five and each has a “Very Poor” speech climate.

https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/2025-college-free-speech-rankings

[jerryskids 6,604]

42 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

Harvard has an endowment of over $50 billion.  The interest alone if that is invested in the most conservative vehicle is in excess of the $2.2 billion funding.  If I'm not mistaken they also have tax exempt status.  I'm not sure why we are subsidizing them with taxpayer dollars at all, regardless of all the other debate.

Harvard has a top medical research infrastructure; I'm fine giving them money for advanced research.  Most everything else, meh...

[jerryskids 6,604]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

Is there a way to discuss Trump’s policies without mentioning the POTUS?

Wut?  I asked the following:

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If there are students with no ties to terrorism and who haven't terrorized Jews on campus, I agree with you.  Feel free to list them and their claim to innocence.

Instead of providing specific examples, you just kept on screeching.   

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1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Wut?  I asked the following:

Instead of providing specific examples, you just kept on screeching.   

“Terrorized”  

I have no idea what you want examples of. I don’t trust the hysterical woman in charge to tell the difference between peaceful protesting and terrorizing any more than I trust you. 

[squistion 1,991]

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1917223665717911756

Hundreds of lawyers and other staff members are leaving the Justice Department's civil rights division, as veterans of the office say they've been driven out by Trump officials who want to drop its traditional work to aggressively pursue cases against the Ivy League, other schools and liberal cities.  

https://nytimes.com/2025/04/28/us/politics/trump-doj-civil-rights.html

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,052]

This is my favorite. 

[Sean Mooney 1,955]

18 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1917223665717911756

Hundreds of lawyers and other staff members are leaving the Justice Department's civil rights division, as veterans of the office say they've been driven out by Trump officials who want to drop its traditional work to aggressively pursue cases against the Ivy League, other schools and liberal cities.  

https://nytimes.com/2025/04/28/us/politics/trump-doj-civil-rights.html

 

As always with Trump it is just vendettas that guide him.

Been that way forever, won't change

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

Good to see patriots fighting against tyranny 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,052]

 But when Obama cleared out the DOJ it was righteous. It’s like some of you just got here. 

[jbycho 657]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Good to see patriots fighting against tyranny 

Yep. No one likes liberals nor do they like illegals. Keep up the good fight to get rid of them all. 

[jonnyutah 255]

Liberals are ao brain dead they are cheering on Harvard suing on US taxpayers. 

 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

Harvard’s Trick for Fighting Trump? A Deep Bench of Conservative Lawyers.

Harvard has hired lawyers connected to conservative Supreme Court justices and President Trump himself to fight its case against the government.

Legal observers have said that Harvard stands a good chance of winning on the legal merits. Although the case could face headwinds if it reaches the Supreme Court, the roster of conservative-aligned lawyers was designed to give the university a boost in front of a court with a supermajority of Republican-appointed justices.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/harvard-trump-conservative-lawyers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE8.cCID.wahiFDwj1kJZ

In a battles of brains between trump and Harvard, I'll take Harvard 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,052]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Harvard’s Trick for Fighting Trump? A Deep Bench of Conservative Lawyers.

Harvard has hired lawyers connected to conservative Supreme Court justices and President Trump himself to fight its case against the government.

Legal observers have said that Harvard stands a good chance of winning on the legal merits. Although the case could face headwinds if it reaches the Supreme Court, the roster of conservative-aligned lawyers was designed to give the university a boost in front of a court with a supermajority of Republican-appointed justices.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/harvard-trump-conservative-lawyers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE8.cCID.wahiFDwj1kJZ

In a battles of brains between trump and Harvard, I'll take Harvard 

Sad, broken effeminate cuck wants private elitist mega wealthy institution that has tax free status to get more billions from the tax payer.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,902]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sad, broken effeminate cuck wants private elitist mega wealthy institution that has tax free status to get more billions from the tax payer.  

I remember when the University of Wisconsin - Madison cried "OMG!!!  POOR!!!!" a couple years back and demanded MORE money from taxpayers and then we found they had like a 4 or 6 BILLION dollar slush fund they were hiding.

Cucks like Ghey_Artest will believe anything they're told. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,052]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I remember when the University of Wisconsin - Madison cried "OMG!!!  POOR!!!!" a couple years back and demanded MORE money from taxpayers and then we found they had like a 4 or 6 BILLION dollar slush fund they were hiding.

Cucks like Ghey_Artest will believe anything they're told. 

They root for their oppressor.  Real cult shitt going on with them. 

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sad, broken effeminate cuck wants private elitist mega wealthy institution that has tax free status to get more billions from the tax payer.  

Typical toxic masculinity insult aside, it's not about wanting to give Harvard taxpayer money.   The issue is about whether a president can extort private institutions for their own personal agenda.  I am against this as should be every American.

The distraction is having sympathy for an institution that has a giant endowment.  It's hard to argue that they should get taxpayer money.  What I will say is that these grants go to research, hospitals, etc.  The funding helps people and saves lives.  It's not paying tuition for a foreign grad student to get a degree in America hating.

[Ron_Artest 1,160]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They root for their oppressor.  Real cult shitt going on with them. 

Who is my oppressor?  I root for freedom democracy and the rule of law.