Letitia James

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Wow would this be a huge turn of events if it is proven.   

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25 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Peekaboo is going to look good in a prison jumpsuit 

Fanni going to be her cell mate?

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

If she committed a crime, she should be prosecuted. Doesn’t change the fact that she was correct to prosecute Donald Trump: 

Has anybody yet argued the point you want to refute?

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21 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Only on two matters. It is also intersting to me in that she prosecuted Trump under novel theories that the SOL could be extended.  Also, if her primary residence is in Virginia, 500 miles from her Albany office there is a question of whether she is qualified to be N.Y.'s A.G.  Now I suspect this will all get resolved without her losing office or going to jail.  I just find it interesting in that she has apparently engaged in behavior highly analogous to that for which she prosecuted Trump.

I'm not into schadenfreude, but I do think public officials should be investigated and prosecuted for corruption whenever possible. By IG's, special prosecutors, DA's, USA's, Congress, legislators. However, whenever. And I believe in public records laws.

The Trump prosecution stands on its own and his company was fairly and rightly convicted.

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

She made up a crime to prosecute DJT. It had never been done before. Liberals are ok with this. They also think that Trumps resort in palm beach Florida is worth 18 million dollars. Ignorance abounds on the left. 

They wanted him locked up so badly. "She was right to prosecute Trump." She had most of the system on her side. Yet she couldn't get a conviction.

Obviously it was a waste of time and money, which Tim should realize.

I'm still curious why liberals love being wrong. Someone should study their desire to be wrong most of the time.

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

If she committed a crime, she should be prosecuted. Doesn’t change the fact that she was correct to prosecute Donald Trump: 

She lost the verdict. Which means she wasted everyone's time and money. Which means it wasn't correct.

You are wrong yet again.

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Second page and not a single post with information or a link about what's happening. Remarkable.

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3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Second page and not a single post with information or a link about what's happening. Remarkable.

I imagine you don’t partake in many conversations in person in real life. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I imagine you don’t partake in many conversations in person in real life. 

No, not a one. It's a tough life being a hermit in Outer Mongolia. 

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

No, not a one. It's a tough life being a hermit in Outer Mongolia. 

I bet. I can imagine you taking to someone about what is known for a while now yet demanding a link. Also, what do you think Mar A Lago is worth? Please try and answer in your own voice. That’s what a conversation is. Thanks. 

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19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Also, what do you think Mar A Lago is worth? Please try and answer in your own voice. That’s what a conversation is. Thanks. 

It's a country club whose operation is contingent on a covenant with the government of Palm Beach County, so its worth is totally hinged on its value as just that, a historic seaside property with outdated decor and limited use. My guess is maybe ~$20 million on that basis, especially considering the lack of buyers for country clubs. The covenant has other restrictions, for example, that the owner cannot live on the property. Trump gets around that by being employed as the club manager but I doubt other people who might buy the club would want to engage in that kind of subterfuge or take on actual management. Again I only mention that because it limits the value of the property.

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's a country club whose operation is contingent on a covenant with the government of Palm Beach County, so it's worth is totally hinged on its value as just that, a historic seaside property with outdated decor and limited use. My guess is maybe ~$20 million on that basis, especially considering the lack of buyers for country clubs. The covenant has other restrictions, for example, that the owner cannot live on the property. Trump gets around that by being employed as the club manager but I doubt other people who might buy the club would want to engage in that kind of subterfuge or take on actual management. Again I only mention that because it limits the value of the property.

You think the property alone is worth 20 million. You’re sad. 

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6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You think the property alone is worth 20 million.  

Ok I checked, I stand by that. Trump bought it for $10 million.

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2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Second page and not a single post with information or a link about what's happening. Remarkable.

When I don't post a link it is because I don't care for the conversation devolving into a discussion, as it always does, as to whether the link is a biased source.  I figured the story to be prominent enough that folks could easily locate it from their own favorite source. 

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1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok I checked, I stand by that. Trump bought it for $10 million.

Are you taking into account the appreciation from him gilding the lily?

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2 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

When i don't post a link it is because I don't care for the conversation devolving into a discussion, as it always does, as to whether the link is a biased source.  I figured the story to be prominent enough that folks could easily locate it from their own favorite source. 

It wasn't you, amigo, it was the whole thread. But understood and cheers.

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1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

Are you taking into account the appreciation from him gilding the lily?

Yes, he probably overpaid, but also the same problem exists, it's a conditional use property.

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1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It wasn't you, amigo, it was the whole thread. But understood and cheers.

Are you doubting that LJ is under investigation for fraud?  I mean, it's been reported everywhere the last couple of days.  Do we have to prove water is wet to you too?

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Just now, Strike said:

Are you doubting that LJ is under investigation for fraud?  I mean, it's been reported everywhere the last couple of days.  Do we have to prove water is wet to you too?

See further up, I posted a report about it. Of course not.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

See further up, I posted a report about it. Of course not.

Then why do you keep whining about links?

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Just now, Strike said:

Then why do you keep whining about links?

Ha, I whined once, wherein a posted a link. Someone then asked about it, then you did. Hey I know, let's drop it.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ha, I whined once, wherein a posted a link. Someone then asked about it, then you did. Hey I know, let's drop it.

Sure as long as you don't whine about it again.

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5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

If she committed a crime, she should be prosecuted. Doesn’t change the fact that she was correct to prosecute Donald Trump: 

Her case against Trump was nothing more than a dog and pony show for a money grab and to sway the election.  The case against her is dog and pony show to pretend that Democrats get prosecuted in liberal strongholds too.

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5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The case against her is dog and pony show to pretend that Democrats get prosecuted in liberal strongholds too.

Eh, I won't say that. I take it DOJ prosecutors or VA state DA's will honestly represent what they see to be the facts. Even if it's a bad prosecution - like what happened with the Danchenko and Sussman prosecutions by Durham - the juries will rule decisively against the prosecutors.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh, I won't say that. I take it DOJ prosecutors or VA state DA's will honestly represent what they see to be the facts. Even if it's a bad prosecution - like what happened with the Danchenko and Sussman prosecutions by Durham - the juries ruled decisively against the prosecutors.

True or false... Donald Trump never gets prosecuted on this if he never entered the political arena.

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2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

It's a country club whose operation is contingent on a covenant with the government of Palm Beach County, so its worth is totally hinged on its value as just that, a historic seaside property with outdated decor and limited use. My guess is maybe ~$20 million on that basis, especially considering the lack of buyers for country clubs. The covenant has other restrictions, for example, that the owner cannot live on the property. Trump gets around that by being employed as the club manager but I doubt other people who might buy the club would want to engage in that kind of subterfuge or take on actual management. Again I only mention that because it limits the value of the property.

And none of which matters one bit.  No one was defrauded. There were clear disclaimers on the financial statement.  There was no injuried party.  AND THERE WAS NO CRIME EVER IDENTIFIED IN THE JURY INSTRUCTUONS WHICH WOULD ELEVATE THIS TI A FELONY.  It was a 100 percent bogus prosecution which was many years past the statue of limitations.  No lawyer worth more than 1 cent would have prosecuted this case.  It was a malicious prosecution using obscenely twisted legal theory which we have never seen the likes of before in our nations history....all so Democrats could win an election. Go fuk yourself if you truthfully think there was anything legitimate about this case. 

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

True or false... Donald Trump never gets prosecuted on this if he never entered the political arena.

That's a trick question - he got prosecuted on this because he hung Michael Cohen out to dry, and Michael Cohen never gets investigated if Trump doesn't run because Cohen was running cover on the Stormy Daniels story, which Trump wouldn't have had to do if he hadn't run for office. Trump wouldn't even have paid Stormy if he had just sat tight with his happy little life as a hotel manager.

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1 minute ago, jonmx said:

And none of which matters one bit.  No one was defrauded. There were clear disclaimers on the financial statement.  There was no injuried party.  AND THERE WAS NO CRIME EVER IDENTIFIED IN THE JURY INSTRUCTUONS WHICH WOULD ELEVATE THIS TI A FELONY.  It was a 100 percent bogus prosecution which was many years past the statue of limitations.  No lawyer worth more than 1 cent would have prosecuted this case.  It was a malicious prosecution using obscenely twisted legal theory which we have never seen the likes of before in our nations history....all so Democrats could win an election.

Like I said, you can discuss whether James committed a crime or may have without discussing the Trump issue. Personally IMO if she did commit mortgage or tax fraud should be prosecuted for it.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Like I said, you can discuss whether James committed a crime or may have without discussing the Trump issue. Personally IMO if she did commit mortgage or tax fraud should be prosecuted for it.

Sure...both Tish and Fanni are the real criminals. 

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Just now, jonmx said:

Sure...both Tish and Fanni are the real criminals. 

Then prosecute them. The best course for cleaning the swamp is to investigate public officials or to remind them that they can always be investigated. 

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4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

That's a trick question - he got prosecuted on this because he hung Michael Cohen out to dry, and Michael Cohen never gets investigated if Trump doesn't run because Cohen was running cover on the Stormy Daniels story, which Trump wouldn't have had to do if he hadn't run for office. Trump wouldn't even have paid Stormy if he had just sat tight with his happy little life as a hotel manager.

Ok....

True or False, Donald Trump never gets prosecuted on this if he entered the political arena as a Democrat.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Then prosecute them. The best course for cleaning the swamp is to investigate public officials or to remind them that they can always be investigated. 

I wish there were laws which held prosecutors accountable for abusing the law.  The fact that Tish and Fanni are lowlifes who have committed multiple other felonies is just convenient.  We need laws which actually makes prosecutors accountable for abuse the system for personal or political gain. 

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7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Ok....

True or False, Donald Trump never gets prosecuted on this if he entered the political arena as a Democrat.

From what I recall Clinton got investigated and impeached - which I supported - for seducing a young intern into sex and was also investigated for a real estate deal in which two of his partners went to jail in his home state and this happened in his own DOJ. And Sen. John Edwards was investigated and charged for nearly the same thing as Trump, hush money to his paramour, again in his home state and by a Dem (Obama) DOJ. So I'm not quite sure why a Dem Trump would have avoided what a Dem President and a Dem VP nominee could not have.

I mean for gods sake if Obama had been found to have slagged a pron star and a nude model and paid them off? You seriously think he would have survived that?

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2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

I wish there were laws which held prosecutors accountable for abusing the law.  The fact that Tish and Fanni are lowlifes who have committed multiple other felonies is just convenient.  We need laws which actually makes prosecutors accountable for abuse the system for personal or political gain. 

There are such laws, they're malicious prosecution suits. I know because I come from a corrupt (yes Dem led) city where prosecutors have been found to manufacture and hide evidence.

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Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

From what I recall Clinton got investigated and impeached - which I supported - for seducing a young intern into sex and was also investigated for a real estate deal in which two of his partners went to jail in his home state and this happened in his own DOJ. And Sen. John Edwards was investigated and charged for nearly the same thing as Trump, hush money to his paramour, again in his home state and by a Dem (Obama) DOJ. So I'm not quite sure why a Dem Trump would have avoided what a Dem President and a Dem VP nominee could not have.

I mean for gods sake if Obama had been found to have slagged a pron star and a nude model and paid them off? You seriously think he would have survived that?

Clinton got investigated and impeached AFTER he won his second term... not before he ran for the second (nor even his first), term.

I'll take your response as "TRUE".  Hence, it was purely political and had nothing to do with breaking the law.  It was 100% about swaying public perception about Trump and convince people to not vote for him.

Obama never would've been investigated for that because it would've happened in a liberal state and no liberal DA was going to do an end around on laws to remove the statute of limitations to prosecute him.

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Obama never would've been investigated for that because it would've happened in a liberal state and no liberal DA was going to do an end around on laws to remove the statute of limitations to prosecute him.

Cohen was prosecuted by Trump’s own DOJ. In fact Trump personally interviewed the US Attorney for SDNY.

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9 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Clinton got investigated and impeached AFTER he won his second term... not before he ran for the second (nor even his first), term.

I'll take your response as "TRUE".  Hence, it was purely political and had nothing to do with breaking the law.  It was 100% about swaying public perception about Trump and convince people to not vote for him.

I know I’m unusual but I really don’t care about this aspect. If a DOJ does or does not investigate a public official for political reasons it’s corrupt. The problem for Trump is that both aspects in NYC - his real estate fraud & his hush money scandal - emerged from his own DOJ’s investigation into Cohen. That was 100% Trump’s doing.

I think the example you’re looking for is FLA AG Pam Bondi dropping the state investigation into Trump Org after receiving a hefty donation from Trump.

 

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I know I’m unusual but I really don’t care about this aspect. If a DOJ does or does not investigate a public official for political reasons it’s corrupt. The problem for Trump is that both aspects in NYC - his real estate fraud & his hush money scandal - emerged from his own DOJ’s investigation into Cohen. That was 100% Trump’s doing.

I think the example you’re looking for is FLA AG Pam Bondi dropping the state investigation into Trump Org after receiving a hefty donation from Trump.

 

The other fact that @TBayXXXVII is ignoring is this: a jury found him guilty. After hearing the evidence. 

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8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I know I’m unusual but I really don’t care about this aspect. If a DOJ does or does not investigate a public official for political reasons it’s corrupt. The problem for Trump is that both aspects in NYC - his real estate fraud & his hush money scandal - emerged from his own DOJ’s investigation into Cohen. That was 100% Trump’s doing.

I think the example you’re looking for is FLA AG Pam Bondi dropping the state investigation into Trump Org after receiving a hefty donation from Trump.

 

You're equating losing a 501-C3 to imprisonment?

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