seafoam1 2,797 Posted Monday at 10:32 PM 3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Of course Trump is taking credit for Shadeur getting drafted after his post Of course you are ranting and raving about Trump in a football thread. TDS much gutternuts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted Monday at 11:17 PM On 4/27/2025 at 2:31 PM, MDC said: Trump owned the NJ Generals of the USFL. He wanted to buy the Bills, but the league that tolerated guys like Kraft and Snyder decided Grifter Don was too embarrassing. At least Trump would be smart enough to hire a competent GM to run his team. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,555 Posted Monday at 11:39 PM 4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Of course Trump is taking credit for Shadeur getting drafted after his post 1 tweet. He gets ish done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 246 Posted yesterday at 01:03 AM This sanders situation is so comical. Classic black behavior. Act like a punk and then blame white people. Black people just cant accept responsibility for any negative outcomes. 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted yesterday at 01:07 AM Sanders said he was interviewing the executives just as much as they were interviewing him. Fock this kid. Rooting hard for his failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 01:13 AM 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sanders said he was interviewing the executives just as much as they were interviewing him. Fock this kid. Rooting hard for his failure. I don't know. When I interview for a job, I'm interviewing the interviewers as much as they're interviewing me. How else do you determine if the job is a good fit for you? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted yesterday at 01:18 AM 3 minutes ago, 5-Points said: I don't know. When I interview for a job, I'm interviewing the interviewers as much as they're interviewing me. How else do you determine if the job is a good fit for you? You’re kidding, right? You work in a field where there are 32 jobs, and almost none of them are available? And you’re the one getting picky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted yesterday at 01:28 AM 21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sanders said he was interviewing the executives just as much as they were interviewing him. Fock this kid. Rooting hard for his failure. Same, he’s a pos. Hope he pulls his ACL in training camp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,472 Posted yesterday at 01:29 AM 15 minutes ago, 5-Points said: I don't know. When I interview for a job, I'm interviewing the interviewers as much as they're interviewing me. How else do you determine if the job is a good fit for you? This is a little different than a normal job. You’re putting out multiple applications and you are making the decision on what’s best for you, he doesn’t have a choice 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 01:34 AM 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You’re kidding, right? You work in a field where there are 32 jobs, and almost none of them are available? And you’re the one getting picky? Well I'm not an entitled asshoIe about it, which it sounds like he may be, but, yeah, I'm asking questions about the company and what it's plans are for future growth. What criteria are they judging my success on in 30, 60 or 90 days. What are my prospects for advancement within the company... I want to know what my long term possibilities with the company are before I agree to take myself off the market for the next few years. And I'm not making a smidgen of the money he stands to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 01:36 AM 6 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: This is a little different than a normal job. You’re putting out multiple applications and you are making the decision on what’s best for you, he doesn’t have a choice Mebbe he thought Deion had the same kinda pull as Eli's daddy did. He found out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted yesterday at 01:37 AM Just now, 5-Points said: Mebbe he thought Deion had the same kinda pull as Eli's daddy did. He found out. What does Eli’s draft spot have to do with his father’s influence? He was the first pick. You think that was because of his father? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 01:39 AM Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: What does Eli’s draft spot have to do with his father’s influence? He was the first pick. You think that was because of his father? Wasn't Eli the one who said he wouldn't go to a team if they drafted him? So Archie worked out another deal? I could be misremembering that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted yesterday at 01:41 AM Just now, 5-Points said: Wasn't Eli the one who said he wouldn't go to a team if they drafted him? So Archie worked out another deal? I could be misremembering that. Yeah but he went first. It didn’t stop SD from taking him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah but he went first. It didn’t stop SD from taking him. Fair enough. But asking what the company has in mind for you, if you're not an asshoIe about it, isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure 99.9% of prospective rookies are just happy to get the nod and somebody who seems less than 100% appreciative of just getting a chance at the bigs would rub a lot of execs the wrong way. I'm not saying that is wrong. I'm just saying asking questions in an interview should be expected from somebody who knows (or thinks he does) what he's worth. Now if he came off as a total doosh and a potential problem, fock him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,181 Posted yesterday at 01:58 AM 44 minutes ago, 5-Points said: I don't know. When I interview for a job, I'm interviewing the interviewers as much as they're interviewing me. How else do you determine if the job is a good fit for you? Sure but then don't whine when that company decides you're more trouble than you're worth and doesn't "hire" you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 02:09 AM 5 minutes ago, Strike said: Sure but then don't whine when that company decides you're more trouble than you're worth and doesn't "hire" you. I never do. If they have a problem answering questions about their company I don't want to work for them anyway. Win/Win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,181 Posted yesterday at 02:11 AM 1 minute ago, 5-Points said: I never do. If they have a problem answering questions about their company I don't want to work for them anyway. Win/Win Don't disagree, for YOU, or ME. Sports is different though and Sanders probably cost himself 10 million dollars by being a douche. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted yesterday at 02:18 AM 9 minutes ago, 5-Points said: I never do. If they have a problem answering questions about their company I don't want to work for them anyway. Win/Win The "company" is the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 02:19 AM 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Don't disagree, for YOU, or ME. Sports is different though and Sanders probably cost himself 10 million dollars by being a douche. Hopefully he's learned that lesson. If he's as talented as he thinks he is, he'll get a shot at competing for the starting job and possibly make up that money on the back end. If not, he'll prolly crash and burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,181 Posted yesterday at 02:25 AM 4 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Hopefully he's learned that lesson. If he's as talented as he thinks he is, he'll get a shot at competing for the starting job and possibly make up that money on the back end. If not, he'll prolly crash and burn. You don't ever make up lost money in sports. He's going to get a 5th round contract. That time at that lower salary is lost money. He can still make a lot of money if he's good but it will be a lot of money minus the difference between a 5th round and 1st round first contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: The "company" is the NFL. Yeah. I still can't blame a guy for trying to get what he thinks he's worth. Whether the organization thinks he is or not. Deion should've councilled him better. Or maybe Deion knew he needed to be taken down a peg or 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM 1 minute ago, Strike said: You don't ever make up lost money in sports. He's going to get a 5th round contract. That time at that lower salary is lost money. He can still make a lot of money if he's good but it will be a lot of money minus the difference between a 5th round and 1st round first contract. True And if he has a career ending injury early on, he'll never get a shot at a big contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,555 Posted yesterday at 02:32 AM What's lost in all this is that I don't think he was ever considered a lock first round talent by execs. He might have gone in the second based on talent. The reason people thought he was a top 5 talent is because Deion told the media that, and then the media told the public that because they don't know shìt anyway. And as typical, the masses are told something by the media and immediately adopt it as a core belief. And that's the real difference between Eli and Shedeur. Eli was considered an elite prospect, so teams were willing to deal with his demands. You don't get that leeway when you rate to be a career backup. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 02:38 AM Look, I'm not excusing his douchebaggerry. I'm just saying interviewing a prospective employer isn't a bad thing. How you go about it can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,181 Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM 4 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Look, I'm not excusing his douchebaggerry. I'm just saying interviewing a prospective employer isn't a bad thing. How you go about it can be. I get what you're saying and don't disagree with it in normal life. But sports is different. You only have so much time to earn as much money as you can and you don't know how your skills are going to translate to the pros. If I had the opportunity to play a pro sport I would absolutely do my best to get as much money up front as possible in case it didn't pan out. Then if I wasn't happy with my situation I would find a way to get out of it. There are plenty of ways to do that. But if Shedeur turns out to be a bust he's going to make a couple million bucks and be out of the league in 3 years. And Ryan leaf will be laughing at him. Shedeur's brother could end up earning more money than him. And I say all this as a guy who lives in Colorado and watched all of his games and enjoyed them and hopes he succeeds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted yesterday at 02:46 AM 1 hour ago, jonnyutah said: This sanders situation is so comical. Classic black behavior. Act like a punk and then blame white people. Black people just cant accept responsibility for any negative outcomes. Your ignorant racism almost makes me sympathetic to Shedeur. Almost. 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,181 Posted yesterday at 02:49 AM 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Your ignorant racism almost makes me sympathetic to Shedeur. Almost. Well, your informed racism isn't any more attractive. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 02:58 AM 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sanders said he was interviewing the executives just as much as they were interviewing him. Fock this kid. Rooting hard for his failure. 5 minutes ago, Strike said: I get what you're saying and don't disagree with it in normal life. But sports is different. You only have so much time to earn as much money as you can and you don't know how your skills are going to translate to the pros. If I had the opportunity to play a pro sport I would absolutely do my best to get as much money up front as possible in case it didn't pan out. Then if I wasn't happy with my situation I would find a way to get out of it. There are plenty of ways to do that. But if Shedeur turns out to be a bust he's going to make a couple million bucks and be out of the league in 3 years. And Ryan leaf will be laughing at him. Shedeur's brother could end up earning more money than him. And I say all this as a guy who lives in Colorado and watched all of his games and enjoyed them and hopes he succeeds. My original post on this topic was in response to HT's post quoted here. If Shedeur was asking "will I start?" "Will I get a chance to compete for the starting job?" "If not this season, then when?" Are those questions really out of bounds? I don't think so. Granted, he's not declaring what college he's going to attend and doesn't have a say in the matter but I still think they're legitimate questions. And, frankly, if I'm drafting a QB, I want him to have that kind of competitiveness. I'd rather he want to start than ride the bench. Now if he was just being a total doosh and demanding a signing bonus or something like that then he got what he deserved. But HT's post seemed to imply that asking questions shouldn't be tolerated at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 246 Posted yesterday at 03:05 AM 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Your ignorant racism almost makes me sympathetic to Shedeur. Almost. Your ignorance of what is going on in the world around you almost makes me sympathetic to you. Almost. Black stabs white kid in heart. Blacks blame it on the weather and racism. Black goes crazy on school property. Blacks blame the cops Black mayor embezzles money. Blames white people. Blacks steal cars. Blacks blame kia. This stuff literally happens every day. Over and over. But i guess you never see blacks in the home depot parking lot looking for work so how would you know about this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,181 Posted yesterday at 03:10 AM 6 minutes ago, 5-Points said: My original post on this topic was in response to HT's post quoted here. If Shedeur was asking "will I start?" "Will I get a chance to compete for the starting job?" "If not this season, then when?" Are those questions really out of bounds? I don't think so. Granted, he's not declaring what college he's going to attend and doesn't have a say in the matter but I still think they're legitimate questions. And, frankly, if I'm drafting a QB, I want him to have that kind of competitiveness. I'd rather he want to start than ride the bench. Now if he was just being a total doosh and demanding a signing bonus or something like that then he got what he deserved. But HT's post seemed to imply that asking questions shouldn't be tolerated at all. Shedeur wasn't asking those questions. Multiple reports have him tanking interviews on purpose and coming off as entitled to the point that some owners directed their teams to remove him from their draft boards: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/esiason-multiple-owners-told-their-teams-to-take-shedeur-sanders-off-the-board https://www.si.com/nfl/report-shedeur-sanders-purposely-tanked-pre-draft-interviews-with-teams-he-didnt-like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 577 Posted yesterday at 03:22 AM 33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Your ignorant racism almost makes me sympathetic to Shedeur. Almost. Only dumbass liberals can see racism in absolutely every part of life on this Earth. You really need need therapy. Or just off yourself would be better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted yesterday at 03:25 AM 12 minutes ago, Strike said: Shedeur wasn't asking those questions. Multiple reports have him tanking interviews on purpose and coming off as entitled to the point that some owners directed their teams to remove him from their draft boards: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/esiason-multiple-owners-told-their-teams-to-take-shedeur-sanders-off-the-board https://www.si.com/nfl/report-shedeur-sanders-purposely-tanked-pre-draft-interviews-with-teams-he-didnt-like OK, hadn't read that. If that's the case, fock him. Hope he learned his lesson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 577 Posted yesterday at 03:30 AM 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: OK, hadn't read that. If that's the case, fock him. Hope he learned his lesson. Dude has been humbled in a big way. He's now saying the right things. If he should have any success in Cleveland, let's see if he remembers all this and stays appreciative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828 Posted yesterday at 03:35 AM 11 minutes ago, jbycho said: Only dumbass liberals can see racism in absolutely every part of life on this Earth. You really need need therapy. Or just off yourself would be better. The racism that they, the left, put front and center. And now they're complaining that people are pointing out racists which just so happened to be them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,555 Posted 22 hours ago The narrative is so dumb A black guy comes off as entitled and a kind of an ãsshole and says he doesn't care what people think and he's just going to be him. That's great that you want to be your authentic self, but if your authentic self is an ahole, here's a thought. Prepare for people to not like you. Then all the race grifters come out of the wood work and say if you don't like him your racist. Like nah, people don't like him because he's a dōuchebag. And when the hell did it become racist to not like a singular person who has a polarizing personalty? This is exactly what I mean when I say wokies are racist and don't understand how not to be racist. Not liking a single black person who acts like an àss is not racist, but the wokies go along for fear they might get outed. News flash: We are allowed to not like individual people of any race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,020 Posted 17 hours ago 7 hours ago, jonnyutah said: Your ignorance of what is going on in the world around you almost makes me sympathetic to you. Almost. Black stabs white kid in heart. Blacks blame it on the weather and racism. Black goes crazy on school property. Blacks blame the cops Black mayor embezzles money. Blames white people. Blacks steal cars. Blacks blame kia. This stuff literally happens every day. Over and over. But i guess you never see blacks in the home depot parking lot looking for work so how would you know about this. It's fine if you want to say shadeur is an entitled douche, he is. To blame his behavior on the entire black race makes you a racist. And no this stuff doesn't happen literally every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,385 Posted 17 hours ago 7 hours ago, jbycho said: Dude has been humbled in a big way. He's now saying the right things. If he should have any success in Cleveland, let's see if he remembers all this and stays appreciative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,931 Posted 16 hours ago 6 hours ago, nobody said: The narrative is so dumb A black guy comes off as entitled and a kind of an ãsshole and says he doesn't care what people think and he's just going to be him. That's great that you want to be your authentic self, but if your authentic self is an ahole, here's a thought. Prepare for people to not like you. Then all the race grifters come out of the wood work and say if you don't like him your racist. Like nah, people don't like him because he's a dōuchebag. And when the hell did it become racist to not like a singular person who has a polarizing personalty? This is exactly what I mean when I say wokies are racist and don't understand how not to be racist. Not liking a single black person who acts like an àss is not racist, but the wokies go along for fear they might get outed. News flash: We are allowed to not like individual people of any race. If that was what was solely being said I'd 100% agree with you. But it was clear what like 2 or 3 posters were getting at here attributing it solely to race. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,505 Posted 15 hours ago I bet all the “racists” in this thread had no problem with Ward going #1. Or Williams and Daniels going 1 and 2 last year. As a Washington fan, there’s no other QB I’d rather have, but bc I think Sanders is a douche and his actions had consequences, I don’t like blacks? (There are plenty of other reasons why I don’t like blacks, but this isn’t one. /s) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites