Trump and The Constitution

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Maybe you should play the whole thing. You’re sad. And dishonest. 

Finally someone willing to defend this.

In what context is it ok to not know if you are supposed to defend the constitution as you swore in an oath?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,970]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Finally someone willing to defend this.

In what context is it ok to not know if you are supposed to defend the constitution as you swore in an oath?

Maybe you should watch the whole thing, especially where he says we have to do what the Supreme Court says. You’re sad.   And dishonest. 

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Maybe you should watch the whole thing, especially where he says we have to do what the Supreme Court says. You’re sad.   And dishonest. 

I did watch the whole clip.  He's not doing what the Supreme Courts says.  I'm not the dishonest one.  He said he doesn't know if he needs to follow the constitution.  Everyone knows he took an oath to do so.  Bootlick harder, cuck.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,970]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I did watch the whole clip.  He's not doing what the Supreme Courts says.  I'm not the dishonest one.  He said he doesn't know if he needs to follow the constitution.  Everyone knows he took an oath to do so.  Bootlick harder, cuck.

When did he not do what the SC says? When the flight was in the air? 

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When did he not do what the SC says? When the flight was in the air? 

The SC has told him to "effectuate" the return of Garcia.  He has not done so. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,970]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

The SC has told him to "effectuate" the return of Garcia.  He has not done so. 

He can’t do that.  That’s ridiculous. 

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

He can’t do that.  That’s ridiculous. 

He said he could do it in an interview last weekend

[Hardcore troubadour 14,970]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

He said he could do it in an interview last weekend

He said he could he could effectuate it? 

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He said he could he could effectuate it? 

He said he could pick up the phone and get him back and would do so if he was a gentleman.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,970]

8 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

He said he could pick up the phone and get him back and would do so if he was a gentleman.

 

Ok. Thats not effectuating. That’s asking. He can’t effectuate the judges order.  Learn your words. 

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ok. Thats not effectuating. That’s asking. He can’t effectuate the judges order.  Learn your words. 

No that's false.  You're insinuating that El Salvador won't release Garcia.  They absolutely would and they did release others that we sent there and asked them to come back.  We sent women there and they sent them back. 

Also you're right on the word effectuate, the SC said to "facilitate".  I mixed it up, my bad.  But use whatever words you want.  Trump has all the power to abide by the court order and give Garcia his due process, he just refuses.

[squistion 1,969]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

No that's false.  You're insinuating that El Salvador won't release Garcia.  They absolutely would and they did release others that we sent there and asked them to come back.  We sent women there and they sent them back. 

Also you're right on the word effectuate, the SC said to "facilitate".  I mixed it up, my bad.  But use whatever words you want.  Trump has all the power to abide by the court order and give Garcia his due process, he just refuses.

Garcia would be back her tomorrow if that is what Trumps wanted and to say otherwise is being disengenous. 

[Engorgeous George 2,162]

23 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

The SC has told him to "effectuate" the return of Garcia.  He has not done so. 

Did I miss it, or perhaps misremember it?  I thought the Supremes ordered the Administration to "facilitate" his return.  To me "facilitate" and "effectuate" are two different standards of efforts.

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

Just now, Engorgeous George said:

Did I miss it, or perhaps misremember it?  I thought the Supremes ordered the Administration to "facilitate" his return.  To me "facilitate" and "effectuate" are two different standards of efforts.

I misspoke, meant "facilitate".  Corrected myself a few posts down.

[Engorgeous George 2,162]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I misspoke, meant "facilitate".  Corrected myself a few posts down.

That happens.

[Strike 5,240]

4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Did I miss it, or perhaps misremember it?  I thought the Supremes ordered the Administration to "facilitate" his return.  To me "facilitate" and "effectuate" are two different standards of efforts.

The SC did not order the Administration to facilitate his return.  They ordered the Administration to facilitate his release.  I wish the libs would quit misrepresenting that ruling because unless people such as myself continually correct the narrative people such as yourself start to believe lies. 

[Engorgeous George 2,162]

5 minutes ago, Strike said:

The SC did not order the Administration to facilitate his return.  They ordered the Administration to facilitate his release.  I wish the libs would quit misrepresenting that ruling because unless people such as myself continually correct the narrative people such as yourself start to believe lies. 

O grow old and can potentially get forgetful or confused, though not nearly as much as I pretend.

[SaintsInDome2006 404]

4 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Did I miss it, or perhaps misremember it?  I thought the Supremes ordered the Administration to "facilitate" his return.  To me "facilitate" and "effectuate" are two different standards of efforts.

Arguably the US government cannot go in and remove someone from a foreign jail, which I cam sure was the DOJ's argument.

But even in the strictest sense of the word the US has done nothing - as in not one thing - to facilitate return either. Things that might be facilitating return: a letter from the US State Department, a call or written request from the president or the Sec. of DHS, sending a US diplomatic plane to have a meeting with the head of the prison or foreign ministry. Nothing of the sort has happened.

[Engorgeous George 2,162]

14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Arguably the US government cannot go in and remove someone from a foreign jail, which I cam sure was the DOJ's argument.

But even in the strictest sense of the word the US has done nothing - as in not one thing - to facilitate return either. Things that might be facilitating return: a letter from the US State Department, a call or written request from the president or the Sec. of DHS, sending a US diplomatic plane to have a meeting with the head of the prison or foreign ministry. Nothing of the sort has happened.

To my knowledge you are correct, none of the options you have listed as "facilitation" have occured.  

[SaintsInDome2006 404]

Acting President Stephen Miller says the White House is considering suspending habeas corpus.

[seafoam1 2,816]

15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Acting President Stephen Miller says the White House is considering suspending habeas corpus.

Illegals shouldn't have any rights in this country in any way. They can f-off. 

[seafoam1 2,816]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Miller is talking about using it on American protestors & critics.

Great. Go protest. Get back to me when all of your fear mongering comes true. 

Last thing I recall about things like this was some people at a selfiefest getting thrown into solitary confinement for months because they walked through doors of the capital that were opened by the capital police and allowed in. And all they did was arm themselves with cell phones and take a couple pics. 

What a freaking joke you liberals are. You let fire bombing libtards run around firebombing the police and businesses in cities throughout the country all throughout 2020 while your soon to be VP that you voted for was setting up bail funds for them to go back out the next day and continue the real insurrection, and then you whine about this. 

For every action, you get an equal and opposite reaction bltch. Go suffer. 

Now, go back to your fear mongering and cry and whine your days away. 

[SaintsInDome2006 404]

29 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Great. Go protest. Get back to me when all of your fear mongering comes true. 

Last thing I recall about things like this was some people at a selfiefest getting thrown into solitary confinement for months because they walked through doors of the capital that were opened by the capital police and allowed in. And all they did was arm themselves with cell phones and take a couple pics. 

What a freaking joke you liberals are. You let fire bombing libtards run around firebombing the police and businesses in cities throughout the country all throughout 2020 while your soon to be VP that you voted for was setting up bail funds for them to go back out the next day and continue the real insurrection, and then you whine about this. 

For every action, you get an equal and opposite reaction bltch. Go suffer. 

Now, go back to your fear mongering and cry and whine your days away. 

No need for all that, I deleted the post after I looked at Miller’s comment.

But since you did comment. There’s nothing conservative about this. 

[SaintsInDome2006 404]

Conservatives & liberals alike support the Constitution. If you’re against the Constitution - and a good deal of this administration is - you’re not a liberal or conservative, you’re not democratic or republican, you’re something else.

[seafoam1 2,816]

15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

No need for all that, I deleted the post after I looked at Miller’s comment.

But since you did comment. There’s nothing conservative about this. 

It's called fighting to get the nation back after what biden allowed to happen.

Even the liberals running liberal cities were starting to freak out with the influx of illegal foreigners in their cities. Hell, obama himself, who doesn't even represent in Martha's Vineyard, except for his political weight as ex pres had them kicked off of his little dream spot on Martha's Vineyard. Plane full of them landed, he said "No chance they stay here", plane turned around and dumped them in some other place in the US. 

This was a serious invasion made possible by a bumbling doofus president named creepy joe biden. 

This can't be fixed in a few months, it's needs time and extreme measures. Whatever those may be. But I seriously doubt they start putting the likes of Maxine waters and rachel maddow in internment camps like you all enjoy saying will happen. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006 404]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

It's called fighting to get the nation back after what biden allowed to happen.

Even the liberals running liberal cities were starting to freak out with the influx of illegal foreigners in their cities. Hell, obama himself, who doesn't even represent in Martha's Vineyard, except for his political weight as ex pres had them kicked off of his little dream spot on Martha's Vineyard. Plane full of them landed, he said "No chance they stay here", plane turned around and dumped them in some other place in the US. 

This was a serious invasion made possible by a bumbling doofus president named creepy joe biden. 

This can't be fixed in a few months, it's needs time and extreme measures. Whatever those may be. But I seriously doubt they start putting the likes of Maxine waters and rachel maddow in internment camps like they enjoy saying will happen. 

 

I’ll just ask you - are you in favor of suspending the Constitution? How about just getting rid of it? Sincere question.

[seafoam1 2,816]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’ll just ask you - are you in favor of suspending the Constitution? How about just getting rid of it? Sincere question.

No. Who's getting rid of the constitution?

And were you in favor of supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia?  

[SaintsInDome2006 404]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

And were you in favor of supporting Ukraine in their war against Russia?  

I do fully support Ukraine. It’s a different issue, but then again ti me it’s in support of America & our historic support of democracy for our defense & for the rights of individuals everywhere.

Thanks for responding, I’m off to a crawfish boil but glad to discuss further later.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,246]

Liberals favorite president ever didn’t follow the constitution. But that doesn’t fit the narrative 

[seafoam1 2,816]

9 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I do fully support Ukraine. It’s a different issue, but then again ti me it’s in support of America & our historic support of democracy for our defense & for the rights of individuals everywhere.

Thanks for responding, I’m off to a crawfish boil but glad to discuss further later.

Then you support Zelensky staying in power by cancelling an election cycle because he wanted to remain in power. 

And it is not a different issue. It is an attack on these nations even though they are in different forms. Open your eyes and see what is actually going on around us. People are dying here in the US because of illegals, kids are getting abducted and raped, women are getting raped and killed, illegals are undercutting the pay scale and sucking up government funding and filling our emergency rooms yet are not US citizens. Etc. etc. etc.....

We are not a third world country and should not strive to be.

[MDC 7,157]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Acting President Stephen Miller says the White House is considering suspending habeas corpus.

Trump is surrounded by a lot of weirdos.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,970]

Obamacare was found to be unconstitutional. 

[thegeneral 2,970]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Obamacare was found to be unconstitutional. 

How’d that end up

[jbycho 612]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

How’d that end up

Terribly. 

[thegeneral 2,970]

6 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Terribly. 

Isn’t it “unconstitutional”?

Wasn't it to be to replaced with something big and beautiful? Been going on 5 years. How’s that coming along?

[Ron_Artest 1,095]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

Trump is surrounded by a lot of weirdos.

Peewee German is an idiot.  No way this stands in court

[jbycho 612]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

Trump is surrounded by a lot of weirdos.

Just like your wife is. 

[MDC 7,157]

11 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Just like your wife is. 

Good one Peefoam!  

[jbycho 612]

46 minutes ago, MDC said:

Good one Peefoam!  

Mdpee guy in the house. I know your wife likes pee. Well, everyone knows it. 

[Horseman 2,377]

effectuate his return - facilitate his release 

meh, what's the difference