Hunter or Tet (Dynasty)

[Maximum Overkill 1,889]

Dynasty players please help me out. 

I should be in a position to draft either one. I love the insane talent and upside of Hunter but am worried about volume and potential defensive snaps. Thomas could easily limit his TDs. 

On the other hand I don't love Tet but do see a path to insane targets, probably 140+ year one. There's absolutely no competition. 

Which way are you leaning as a Dynasty play and why? Thanks 

[TBayXXXVII 2,517]

28 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Dynasty players please help me out. 

I should be in a position to draft either one. I love the insane talent and upside of Hunter but am worried about volume and potential defensive snaps. Thomas could easily limit his TDs. 

On the other hand I don't love Tet but do see a path to insane targets, probably 140+ year one. There's absolutely no competition. 

Which way are you leaning as a Dynasty play and why? Thanks 

If you think McMillan is going to be good, I'd go with him first mainly because less exposure to injury and a more assurance of role/opportunity.  He's a safer pick.  I also think the situation in Carolina is safer.  They have a better HC, better (younger) QB, and better run game.  Also less competition for touches.  Hunter has to compete with Thomas who's shown is a baller and isn't going anywhere, any time soon.  In Carolina, Theilen is a good compliment (and old), and Legget is "a guy".  Neither are going to command targets like McMillan.

[Showboat 256]

Agree, McMillan is probably the "safer" pick.  But if you really want to swing for the fences along with a greater chance to strike out, go with Hunter (though if you get IDP points, Hunter is probably a no-brainer).

[LaChup 233]

Hampton

[nobody 2,641]

Trade back

[nobody 2,641]

15 hours ago, LaChup said:

Hampton

And Trayveon for that matter

[The Football Guru 222]

6 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Dynasty players please help me out. 

I should be in a position to draft either one. I love the insane talent and upside of Hunter but am worried about volume and potential defensive snaps. Thomas could easily limit his TDs. 

On the other hand I don't love Tet but do see a path to insane targets, probably 140+ year one. There's absolutely no competition. 

Which way are you leaning as a Dynasty play and why? Thanks 

I thought McMillan's film was as good as any player's I have seen in years, certainly at the receiver position. I think he belongs in the Marvin Harrison Jr./Nabers conversation. Hunter has much work to do to be a technically sound receiver. A part of me hopes I can land both in the one rookie draft where I have 1.02 and 1.04.

With that said (and my perspective changes regularly), I am now leaning Hunter over McMillan. If Hunter develops, he could be the OBJ 2.0. No matter how high I think McMillan's ceiling as an individual talent, I don't see his high being as high in Carolina as Hunter's highs could be in Jacksonville.

[LaChup 233]

OBJ.....Ol' Birdy Jastard?

[Maximum Overkill 1,889]

16 hours ago, nobody said:

And Trayveon for that matter

Both will be gone. I have 3 and 5. 

Jeanty is going 1, Hampton, Traveon. 

It's between the 2 WRS

[Showboat 256]

Still early, but right now I'd take Harvey over Traveon.

[JagFan 156]

On 5/3/2025 at 7:21 AM, Maximum Overkill said:

Both will be gone. I have 3 and 5. 

Jeanty is going 1, Hampton, Traveon. 

It's between the 2 WRS

I’d package that 3 and 5 to move back to the fourth round and take Sanders.

[Maximum Overkill 1,889]

2 hours ago, JagFan said:

I’d package that 3 and 5 to move back to the fourth round and take Sanders.

I did 

[WhiteWonder 2,716]

On 5/2/2025 at 4:40 PM, The Football Guru said:

I thought McMillan's film was as good as any player's I have seen in years, certainly at the receiver position. I think he belongs in the Marvin Harrison Jr./Nabers conversation. Hunter has much work to do to be a technically sound receiver. A part of me hopes I can land both in the one rookie draft where I have 1.02 and 1.04.

With that said (and my perspective changes regularly), I am now leaning Hunter over McMillan. If Hunter develops, he could be the OBJ 2.0. No matter how high I think McMillan's ceiling as an individual talent, I don't see his high being as high in Carolina as Hunter's highs could be in Jacksonville.

Interested to hear more. I never got Malik Nabers vibes from Tet McMillan... like at all. 

[nobody 2,641]

Tet actually reminds me of MHJ.  Overrated route running making a living on running through sub-optimally executed zones, schemed up traffic to get defenders lost in the chaos, and relying on the ability to fight through small and weak college DBs to make catches.

Both overrated in the exact same way.

[LaChup 233]

I can see Tet being like Calvin Johnson.

 

 

Two years after he retired.

[Maximum Overkill 1,889]

15 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

Interested to hear more. I never got Malik Nabers vibes from Tet McMillan... like at all. 

I agree. I see more of a big bodied possession receiver. Tet's skillset isn't even close to Nabers. They are world's apart as far as talent goes. 

[nobody 2,641]

I think he meant that he's putting Tet in the same tier of quality prospect as Malik/MHJ, so he must think Tet is "generational."  That's an unfortunate opinion for his fantasy teams, but, hey, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 

It's even the same type of mistake.  If Hunter was playing receiver full time, he's clearly the better prospect.  And I mean clearly.  Head and shoulders better than Tet.  It's just murky on how the time share will effect his snap count on offense in my perspective.  I mean what if they only play him 70% of the snaps on offense?  I happen to think that's best case if he's moonlighting on defense which also brings up his injury risk.

[nobody 2,641]

The list of JAGs that were high picks that couldn't separate is long and undistinguished.  It jumps off the screen to me.  Not sure why people keep falling for it.

MHJ, Quentin Johnson, N'Keal Harry (the poster boy for this archetype), Corey Davis, Corey Coleman, Laquan Treadwell, etc.  

MHJ was tied for the worst average separation of any wide receiver with at least 45 targets.  That's why he had a disappointing year.  NFL teams throw to open receivers.  They don't rely on big bodies catching a ball with a DB all over them.  This shift has been around ever since they started calling secondary play tighter.  As you watch Tet's games, ignore the zone plays.  Any decent receiver can be productive running through wide open college zones.  Watch the plays against man.  The dude can't get away from DBs unless it's on a hitch or a comeback.  He ain't becoming more than a JAG on hitches.  It's as clear as day.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,889]

5 hours ago, nobody said:

I think he meant that he's putting Tet in the same tier of quality prospect as Malik/MHJ, so he must think Tet is "generational."  That's an unfortunate opinion for his fantasy teams, but, hey, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. 

Exactly.  I understand that there's an argument to be made that he's the WR1 in this draft, but that being said it's a horrible WR class. Being WR1 in this draft isn't saying much but you gotta pick him if you need a WR.  I was lucky that the guy in front of me took Tet at 1.04 so I could take Travis Hunter at 1.05. I feel like that's an upside steal. 

[LaChup 233]

Egbuka is the best receiver in this class. Just like Malik was the receiver to get last year over MHJ. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,889]

1 hour ago, LaChup said:

Egbuka is the best receiver in this class

Except the landing spot sucks, for now at least.  

[nobody 2,641]

Dynasty though... egbuka

Redraft, I'm not high on any receiver.  Although no one seems to be talking about Kyle Williams in New England.  People won't catch on to him until late August I bet.

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

On 5/10/2025 at 7:16 AM, Maximum Overkill said:

I agree. I see more of a big bodied possession receiver. Tet's skillset isn't even close to Nabers. They are world's apart as far as talent goes. 

100%

Tet ceiling is more Mike Evans

[The Football Guru 222]

On 5/9/2025 at 3:40 PM, WhiteWonder said:

Interested to hear more. I never got Malik Nabers vibes from Tet McMillan... like at all. 

I should have been clearer. I wasn't talking about them being similar in terms of play style or talent, but in terms of the quality of their college film (my film score).

Nabers >> T-Mac by a decent margin in terms of talent. With that said, being the best of a bad class doesn't mean a guy stinks. It means he is the best of a bad class. Sometimes that can mean the whole class stinks. Sometimes that can mean one or two are actually good prospects and the rest are about average. I think the latter is the case with this year's class.

IMO, it is T-Mac and then Hunter (mostly worried about his being able to hold up long-term), then a considerable gap before guys like Egbuka. I think the Evans' comps for McMillan are well-intentioned, but misguided. I understand the Drake London comps, but I think T-Mac is a better prospect than London was. I went with a discount Larry Fitzgerald in terms of what I think he can be if he maxes out. His run-after-catch ability is seriously underrated. (I'm not saying he's Luther Burden in that regard, but it is pretty good for a 6-4, 219-pound receiver. So is his ability to sink his hips and change direction.) His ability to play the ball in the air is special.

I also think his ability to separate has been overblown and is less of an issue for a player with his size and wingspan than it would be for Hunter or Egbuka. The concern raised against man coverage was something I discussed in my draft profile, but I also think he invites the physicality because he knows cornerbacks can't match him physically. Additionally, he was awesome against zone, which is what the NFL defenses play about 75% of the time now.

My guess (without doing any projections yet) is that McMillan pushes for 120-130 targets as a rookie. If you can get him as your WR3 in redraft or at the 1.04 pick or later in your rookie drafts, I think you will be pleased.

[WhiteWonder 2,716]

18 minutes ago, The Football Guru said:

I should have been clearer. I wasn't talking about them being similar in terms of play style or talent, but in terms of the quality of their college film (my film score).

Nabers >> T-Mac by a decent margin in terms of talent. With that said, being the best of a bad class doesn't mean a guy stinks. It means he is the best of a bad class. Sometimes that can mean the whole class stinks. Sometimes that can mean one or two are actually good prospects and the rest are about average. I think the latter is the case with this year's class.

IMO, it is T-Mac and then Hunter (mostly worried about his being able to hold up long-term), then a considerable gap before guys like Egbuka. I think the Evans' comps for McMillan are well-intentioned, but misguided. I understand the Drake London comps, but I think T-Mac is a better prospect than London was. I went with a discount Larry Fitzgerald in terms of what I think he can be if he maxes out. His run-after-catch ability is seriously underrated. (I'm not saying he's Luther Burden in that regard, but it is pretty good for a 6-4, 219-pound receiver. So is his ability to sink his hips and change direction.) His ability to play the ball in the air is special.

I also think his ability to separate has been overblown and is less of an issue for a player with his size and wingspan than it would be for Hunter or Egbuka. The concern raised against man coverage was something I discussed in my draft profile, but I also think he invites the physicality because he knows cornerbacks can't match him physically. Additionally, he was awesome against zone, which is what the NFL defenses play about 75% of the time now.

My guess (without doing any projections yet) is that McMillan pushes for 120-130 targets as a rookie. If you can get him as your WR3 in redraft or at the 1.04 pick or later in your rookie drafts, I think you will be pleased.

Thank you for the more in depth explanation. 

While I do agree that he may be the best of a bad class and possibly fall into that category of one or two good prospects in a bad class, I do not believe that anything about Tet is "special". Where as I do think a guy like Hunter has special traits. Of course, Tet wound up in the better situation to be fed targets (and no 2 way nonsense) so I have him rated slightly ahead for drafting. 

I don't compare Tet to Mike Evans. I do understand the Drake London comps. When London came out, I didn't think there was too much to get excited about, and thinking back to his film, I saw more similarities. 

As far as Nabers, it was clear there were some "special" attributes to his game and I was one of the many who were saying he should be the top WR in his class. I understand that you don't mean play style, but I think if it's also not a talent level similarity then it's hard to put them on the same level. Had Tet been in last years class, i'm not sure hed have cracked my top 5... but his situation may make him more productive. For example i'd have had Odunze ranked ahead of him but Tet may put up better fantasy numbers. 

[The Football Guru 222]

14 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

As far as Nabers, it was clear there were some "special" attributes to his game and I was one of the many who were saying he should be the top WR in his class. I understand that you don't mean play style, but I think if it's also not a talent level similarity then it's hard to put them on the same level. Had Tet been in last years class, i'm not sure hed have cracked my top 5... but his situation may make him more productive. For example i'd have had Odunze ranked ahead of him but Tet may put up better fantasy numbers. 

Once again, my initial comment was only about the film grade I had for both of them. It is important to remember Nabers had Jayden Daniels as his QB during his breakout season as well. McMillan ... did not. I was probably slightly more impressed with McMillan's film than Harrison's, FWIW.

There is also an earlier comment about Harrison's separation skills. It is hard to create separation when a guy who is not world-class fast and known more for his route-running is used to clear out as often as Harrison was last year. Harrison actually had a pretty good season when we consider how he was used. Hopefully, Arizona features him more often on the short and intermediate stuff this year, although that is far from a given.

[nobody 2,641]

Come on.  People need to stop saying Harrison had a good season.  Dude was billed as the perfect wide receiver prospect.  He's a JAG.  

[kutulu 1,666]

8 minutes ago, nobody said:

Come on.  People need to stop saying Harrison had a good season.  Dude was billed as the perfect wide receiver prospect.  He's a JAG.  

I wouldn't go that far. Take a look at seniors first year stats versus juniors... They're almost exactly the same. TD the same 8, catches 62/64, and both had 800 yards and change. 

[nobody 2,641]

Wasn't Sr a rookie back in the DBs can hold every play; we think fade routes are a good idea; 55% completion percentage is a pro bowl year Era?

[JagFan 156]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Come on.  People need to stop saying Harrison had a good season.  Dude was billed as the perfect wide receiver prospect.  He's a JAG.  

Not to nitpick, but you don’t need the a there because you’re now saying “he’s a just a guy”.  Too many a’s

[The Moz 69]

Would take Hampton or Henderson over any wr this year.   

[WhiteWonder 2,716]

8 minutes ago, The Moz said:

Would take Hampton or Henderson over any wr this year.   

didn't you vanish from fftoday with a bunch of peoples league entry money years ago?