Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 So the Trump admin is now offering illegals 1k and a plane ticket home to self deport. I was led to believe there would be box cars and detention camps. I guess this means they won’t be rounding up the lgbtq’s either? 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,388 Posted May 5 Why would they "round up" LGBTQ people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Why would they "round up" LGBTQ people? Thats what I was told was going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,126 Posted May 5 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thats what I was told was going to happen. Who told you that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,281 Posted May 5 I would be ok with this if I didn't know that these people wouldn't just come right back once the environment is more favorable to illegals. But in a few years that may be exactly the case, and we would have just given away a boatload of money for a temporary reprieve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,388 Posted May 5 13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thats what I was told was going to happen. I don't think so, but if that's how you interpreted something, that's kind of scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,281 Posted May 5 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thats what I was told was going to happen. Even if you were told this, is it your position that you want the government rounding up the alphabet people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I don't think so, but if that's how you interpreted something, that's kind of scary. Really? There weren’t hysterical leftards saying that Trump was coming for the LGBTQ’s? Also, put your sarcasm detector on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,735 Posted May 5 21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thats what I was told was going to happen. Isn’t that why Rosie left? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,281 Posted May 5 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Really? There weren’t hysterical leftards saying that Trump was coming for the LGBTQ’s? Also, put your sarcasm detector on. If you were being sarcastic, it wasn't obvious. It's not us who need to make an adjustment here...... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Even if you were told this, is it your position that you want the government rounding up the alphabet people? I know you west coasters don’t do sarcasm like the east does, but it’s pretty evident here. Box cars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,281 Posted May 5 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: I know you wear coasters don’t do sarcasm like the east does, but it’s pretty evident here. I live in Denver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 1,982 Posted May 5 10 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I don't think so, but if that's how you interpreted something, that's kind of scary. There was concern expressed on the left that Trump in his second term would roll back LGBTQ rights and protections, particularly those who are trangender. However that is a far cry from using boxcars and detention camps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,504 Posted May 5 34 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Why would they "round up" LGBTQ people? Aids 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,281 Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, squistion said: There was concern expressed on the left that Trump in his second term would roll back LGBTQ rights and protections, particularly those who are trangender. However that is a far cry from using boxcars and detention camps. How can he roll back something the alphabet people don't even have @squistion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,388 Posted May 5 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I know you west coasters don’t do sarcasm like the east does, but it’s pretty evident here. Box cars? Yeah, I didn't catch the sarcasm in this at all. Could it be because of your political position and past posts? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,409 Posted May 5 10 minutes ago, Strike said: If you were being sarcastic, it wasn't obvious. It's not us who need to make an adjustment here...... I thought it was pretty obvious. Insinuating that he had voted for "box cars and detention camps." Plus the emoji. HT doesn't typically do emojis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 631 Posted May 5 15 minutes ago, squistion said: There was concern expressed on the left that Trump in his second term would roll back LGBTQ rights and protections, particularly those who are trangender. However that is a far cry from using boxcars and detention camps. "Concerns"? What a load BS. You dopes have been sky screaming about Trump rounding up Americans and kicking them out ever since you heard Trump's name. You aholes have been calling Trump "Hitler, authoritarian, dictator, Nazi, etc," for years now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 24 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Yeah, I didn't catch the sarcasm in this at all. Could it be because of your political position and past posts? Or maybe the left calling Trump Hitler and his voters Nazis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 Trump never said he was rounding up the LGBTQ. So I obviously couldn’t vote for that. Some of you need more coffee. Or less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gas 140 Posted May 5 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Really? There weren’t hysterical leftards saying that Trump was coming for the LGBTQ’s? Also, put your sarcasm detector on. Your posting history reads like a Jeopardy category “Things Only An A55hole Would Say”, so don’t act all surprised that people didn’t detect the sarcasm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 6 minutes ago, gas said: Your posting history reads like a Jeopardy category “Things Only An A55hole Would Say”, so don’t act all surprised that didn’t detect the sarcasm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,617 Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: guess this means they won’t be rounding up the lgbtq’s either? Of course not. Donald has done more for lgbtq folks than any president Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 421 Posted May 5 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So the Trump admin is now offering illegals 1k and a plane ticket home to self deport. I was led to believe there would be box cars and detention camps. I guess this means they won’t be rounding up the lgbtq’s either? Yes "if Biden/Obama had done it." I think at times I've heard from maga / read on maga sources that there were as many as 30 million illegals. Not three (3) million, thirty (30). And other figures which would vary. It was always ridiculous. In the end I wouldn't be surprised if Obama and Biden deported and removed more per year that Trump 1 & 2 combined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 16 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Yes "if Biden/Obama had done it." I think at times I've heard from maga / read on maga sources that there were as many as 30 million illegals. Not three (3) million, thirty (30). And other figures which would vary. It was always ridiculous. In the end I wouldn't be surprised if Obama and Biden deported and removed more per year that Trump 1 & 2 combined. They did. And those millions and millions received due process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 421 Posted May 5 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They did. And those millions and millions received due process. Warning: this is called "Information". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: Warning: this is called "Information". Yeah. And they all got to see a judge and lodge an appeal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 421 Posted May 5 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah. And they all got to see a judge and lodge an appeal. Right, an immigration judge and the due process afforded under the INA. And actually unlike ordinary criminal cases if the Feds / DHS / ICE lost they could appeal. Like in the Garcia case where after the judge ruled for Garcia in 2019 the Trump administration chose not to appeal even though they could have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,126 Posted May 5 19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah. And they all got to see a judge and lodge an appeal. A former cop doesn't know what due process means Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 14 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Right, an immigration judge and the due process afforded under the INA. And actually unlike ordinary criminal cases if the Feds / DHS / ICE lost they could appeal. Like in the Garcia case where after the judge ruled for Garcia in 2019 the Trump administration chose not to appeal even though they could have. You think the millions that were deported saw a judge and got a hearing? Thats what you’re saying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 Just now, Ron_Artest said: A former cop doesn't know what due process means Due process is the process that you are due. It’s not the same for everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,880 Posted May 5 3 hours ago, Strike said: If you were being sarcastic, it wasn't obvious. It's not us who need to make an adjustment here...... To be fair, it was obvious to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,880 Posted May 5 What if we offered all the liberals 1k to self deport? Let them go hate another country instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 421 Posted May 5 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Due process is the process that you are due. It’s not the same for everyone. Yes, it's different - INS/ICE deportations and removals are handled under the 1969 INA, passed by Congress under its Art. I authority. The person seeking asylum gets a hearing or determination under an Immigration Judge. The Feds may appeal it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,014 Posted May 5 19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Yes, it's different - INS/ICE deportations and removals are handled under the 1969 INA, passed by Congress under its Art. I authority. The person seeking asylum gets a hearing or determination under an Immigration Judge. The Feds may appeal it. Thats asylum seekers. Not people that entered illegally. Like I said , it’s not the same for everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 421 Posted May 5 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thats asylum seekers. Not people that entered illegally. Like I said , it’s not the same for everyone. People who enter illegally can request asylum. They all do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,685 Posted May 5 4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Thats what I was told was going to happen. I was told Putin would immediately invade more countries and we would be living in a dictatorship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 631 Posted May 5 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: People who enter illegally can request asylum. They all do. Refused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,685 Posted May 5 in defense of HT.... jesus did I just say that? ... the sarcasm was blatant 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites