Fnord 2,359 Posted 16 hours ago 23 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I’m guessing Jon is disgusted by Trump and the Republicans act here. Just doesn’t want to post that. He made a single nasty post about libs this afternoon in the Kirk thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,239 Posted 16 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Fnord said: He made a single nasty post about libs this afternoon in the Kirk thread. check out the female liberal gossip going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 14 hours ago 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: You’re saying the rational answer is there is nothing damning against Trump? Maybe, but then what’s the rational answer for why he is refusing to release the rest now? Not maybe, yes. Don't be a chicken shiot, man up to your unbiased moderate ways and resolve the Team Biden dilemma. In fact I think you were the weak sauce guy I mentioned, although I don't recall for sure. The rational answer for not releasing "the rest" is that any names would instantly have their lives ruined without the data being vetted or them having their day in court (which is why grand jury testimony is by default sealed). Add to that, a lot of those names are likely hella powerful and influential. I'd ask you to take an L here, but you'll just refuse to, and probably bump your Strike thread for the 3rd time today. Because you are much better at trying to dish out L's than you are accepting your own. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 689 Posted 14 hours ago 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Not maybe, yes. Don't be a chicken shiot, man up to your unbiased moderate ways and resolve the Team Biden dilemma. In fact I think you were the weak sauce guy I mentioned, although I don't recall for sure. The rational answer for not releasing "the rest" is that any names would instantly have their lives ruined without the data being vetted or them having their day in court (which is why grand jury testimony is by default sealed). Add to that, a lot of those names are likely hella powerful and influential. I'd ask you to take an L here, but you'll just refuse to, and probably bump your Strike thread for the 3rd time today. Because you are much better at trying to dish out L's than you are accepting your own. HTH He's a lying POS plain and simple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,378 Posted 14 hours ago 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Not maybe, yes. Don't be a chicken shiot, man up to your unbiased moderate ways and resolve the Team Biden dilemma. In fact I think you were the weak sauce guy I mentioned, although I don't recall for sure. The rational answer for not releasing "the rest" is that any names would instantly have their lives ruined without the data being vetted or them having their day in court (which is why grand jury testimony is by default sealed). Add to that, a lot of those names are likely hella powerful and influential. I'd ask you to take an L here, but you'll just refuse to, and probably bump your Strike thread for the 3rd time today. Because you are much better at trying to dish out L's than you are accepting your own. HTH I thought DOJ said the case was now closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,082 Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Not maybe, yes. Don't be a chicken shiot, man up to your unbiased moderate ways and resolve the Team Biden dilemma. In fact I think you were the weak sauce guy I mentioned, although I don't recall for sure. The rational answer for not releasing "the rest" is that any names would instantly have their lives ruined without the data being vetted or them having their day in court (which is why grand jury testimony is by default sealed. Add to that, a lot of those names are likely hella powerful and influential. I'd ask you to take an L here, but you'll just refuse to, and probably bump your Strike thread for the 3rd time today. Because you are much better at trying to dish out L's than you are accepting your own. HTH Wouldn’t the reasons you list here for not releasing them now also apply to during Biden though? So are you saying the naked lady card is fake? Since it originally came from Epstein’s estate, do we know for sure when the government first saw it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I thought DOJ said the case was now closed. That doesn't stop people's lives being ruined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 14 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Wouldn’t the reasons you list here for not releasing them now also apply to during Biden though? So are you saying the naked lady card is fake? Since it originally came from Epstein’s estate, do we know for sure when the government first saw it? No, as I said earlier today, the US government is perfectly able to leak info about Trump (were he implicated) and not leaking the rest of it. If you are talking about why they didn't just release the whole thing, then yes, same as Trump. I don't recall you being moderately concerned about it during the Biden* years though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,378 Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: That doesn't stop people's lives being ruined. Sorry but isn’t there a little more than should be done here? Two people were arrested here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,378 Posted 14 hours ago Just now, jerryskids said: No, as I said earlier today, the US government is perfectly able to leak info about Trump (were he implicated) and not leaking the rest of it. If you are talking about why they didn't just release the whole thing, then yes, same as Trump. I don't recall you being moderately concerned about it during the Biden* years though. They did release the whole thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 14 hours ago Just now, thegeneral said: Sorry but isn’t there a little more than should be done here? Two people were arrested here. Instead of wasting my time with a question, why don't you tell me what should be done here and why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: They did release the whole thing. What now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,378 Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Instead of wasting my time with a question, why don't you tell me what should be done here and why? IMO continue to investigate. Release the financial records to start. Let people dig into those. I asked you though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,378 Posted 14 hours ago Just now, jerryskids said: What now? We are talking about the birthday book, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 14 hours ago Just now, thegeneral said: IMO continue to investigate. Release the financial records to start. Let people dig into those. I asked you though. How does this not lead to the ruination of lives? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: We are talking about the birthday book, right? I wasn't. But I addressed that earlier today; go back and read about how you are chasing the MSDNC butterfly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,378 Posted 14 hours ago Just now, jerryskids said: How does this not lead to the ruination of lives? If you were wiring large amounts of money to Jeff probably best to explain yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,378 Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: I wasn't. But I addressed that earlier today; go back and read about how you are chasing the MSDNC butterfly. My bad. Trump is lying his ass off about this letter. It’s really dumb of him and makes him look very guilty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,832 Posted 14 hours ago So the answer is we don't want to ruin the lives of people connected to a child rapist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,082 Posted 14 hours ago 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: No, as I said earlier today, the US government is perfectly able to leak info about Trump (were he implicated) and not leaking the rest of it. If you are talking about why they didn't just release the whole thing, then yes, same as Trump. I don't recall you being moderately concerned about it during the Biden* years though. I wasn’t. I figured they didn’t have enough to charge other people criminally and that most of the people implicated were probably old and no longer relevant, I did not think Trump was one of them. But his actions have made me question that thinking, and as I stated previously I believe including to you, I’m more annoyed by the hypocrisy. Multiple cabinet members said they would release them, then there was the binder fiasco. This admin was supposed to be better than Biden, so saying “BUT BIDEN” isn’t a good defense. I missed your post earlier about the birthday card. So you think it’s fake because of handwriting analysis from the Daily Wire, got it. Not surprising considering your blind allegiance to whatever the IDF says. But from what I’ve seen it looks like Trump’s signature has multiple variations, there was at least one other example shared that looked the same as that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,944 Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: I wasn’t. I figured they didn’t have enough to charge other people criminally and that most of the people implicated were probably old and no longer relevant, I did not think Trump was one of them. But his actions have made me question that thinking, and as I stated previously I believe including to you, I’m more annoyed by the hypocrisy. Multiple cabinet members said they would release them, then there was the binder fiasco. This admin was supposed to be better than Biden, so saying “BUT BIDEN” isn’t a good defense. I missed your post earlier about the birthday card. So you think it’s fake because of handwriting analysis from the Daily Wire, got it. Not surprising considering your blind allegiance to whatever the IDF says. But from what I’ve seen it looks like Trump’s signature has multiple variations, there was at least one other example shared that looked the same as that one. Well, Daily Wire had three AI tools analyze it, which is three more actual sources than you've ever provided defending Hamas. But yeah, you are right, Trump probably wrote that third-person play-like thing with "enigma" and all. Saying "but Biden" is still an irrefutable defense of Trump not being implicated directly. Another moderate post from you. Seriously, you might be the least self-aware person on the interwebs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,239 Posted 7 hours ago 7 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: So the answer is we don't want to ruin the lives of people connected to a child rapist? It would be awesome if someone you were associated with was secretly molesting children and got caught and you were arrested and thrown in prison for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,082 Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, jerryskids said: Well, Daily Wire had three AI tools analyze it, which is three more actual sources than you've ever provided defending Hamas. But yeah, you are right, Trump probably wrote that third-person play-like thing with "enigma" and all. Saying "but Biden" is still an irrefutable defense of Trump not being implicated directly. Another moderate post from you. Seriously, you might be the least self-aware person on the interwebs. Even if we say Trump wasn’t implicated, “But Biden” still doesn’t answer why Trump himself and multiple cabinet members said they would release the files, then do the stupid binder thing, only to then tell people to forget about it. If they were afraid of the things you listed previously, they never should have made those statements. Take off your red glasses for a second and notice the hypocrisy right in front of you. I also don’t think it would have been as easy as you think to only release info about Trump. The folks telling us to forget about it now would not have let us forget about it then and would have demanded to see the rest of the info, rightfully so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,239 Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Even if we say Trump wasn’t implicated, “But Biden” still doesn’t answer why Trump himself and multiple cabinet members said they would release the files, then do the stupid binder thing, only to then tell people to forget about it. If they were afraid of the things you listed previously, they never should have made those statements. Take off your red glasses for a second and notice the hypocrisy right in front of you. I also don’t think it would have been as easy as you think to only release info about Trump. The folks telling us to forget about it now would not have let us forget about it then and would have demanded to see the rest of the info, rightfully so. Hypocrisy = liberals not saying a word about any such files while Biden was in office then turning on a dime and started screeching about Trump needing to release these so called Epstein files. You all had your 4 years in office. I guess it didn't mean much at that time until you thought to politicize it when Trump kicked your asses in the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,006 Posted 4 hours ago 9 hours ago, jerryskids said: Well, Daily Wire had three AI tools analyze it, which is three more actual sources than you've ever provided defending Hamas. But yeah, you are right, Trump probably wrote that third-person play-like thing with "enigma" and all. Saying "but Biden" is still an irrefutable defense of Trump not being implicated directly. Another moderate post from you. Seriously, you might be the least self-aware person on the interwebs. There have been handwriting experts who say it does match though as well. https://institut-gouvernance.org/news/one-handwriting-expert-spotted-something-very-telling-donald-trumps-use-straight-lines-his-signature/ And there is this good op-ed which discusses the line of defense the Trump team is using and where there might be holes in it: https://archive.ph/TlvE3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,832 Posted 4 hours ago Trump would never use the word enigma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,832 Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: There have been handwriting experts who say it does match though as well. https://institut-gouvernance.org/news/one-handwriting-expert-spotted-something-very-telling-donald-trumps-use-straight-lines-his-signature/ And there is this good op-ed which discusses the line of defense the Trump team is using and where there might be holes in it: https://archive.ph/TlvE3 Jerrys explanation was Trump's admin wrote it and then trump signed it without looking at it. The level of depravity of trump supporters to cover up child rape is astounding Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 2,006 Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Jerrys explanation was Trump's admin wrote it and then trump signed it without looking at it. The level of depravity of trump supporters to cover up child rape is astounding Trump is simultaneously the smartest man alive and signing things like Joe Biden was accused of. Deep disconnect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 459 Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: There have been handwriting experts who say it does match though as well. https://institut-gouvernance.org/news/one-handwriting-expert-spotted-something-very-telling-donald-trumps-use-straight-lines-his-signature/ And there is this good op-ed which discusses the line of defense the Trump team is using and where there might be holes in it: https://archive.ph/TlvE3 And Trump’s niece has shown a note from Trump from 2017 with his signature. It’s the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 459 Posted 3 hours ago Bloomberg has obtained a set of 18K of Epstein’s emails: - This post dates the Trump-Epstein friendship but it does contain a cryptic list of 51 wealthy or powerful people which Trump was on. It’s uncertain what the list was for. It was roughly from around the time Epstein was being investigated. - There’s a lot of detail in this piece. As a reminder this man was a monster way beyond the political tilting that goes on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,082 Posted 3 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Jerrys explanation was Trump's admin wrote it and then trump signed it without looking at it. Like, someone trying to sabotage him? Or, someone writing it thinking it would be something he would write? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,832 Posted 3 hours ago Just now, TimHauck said: Like, someone trying to sabotage him? Or, someone writing it thinking it would be something he would write? He never went any further and instead pivoted to how I have Trump Derangement Syndrome. That's always the last box on the workflow before "Did you lose the argument? Yes ->" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,634 Posted 3 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Jerrys explanation was Trump's admin wrote it and then trump signed it without looking at it. If Trump didn’t look at it how’s he know where the pubes were supposed to go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,832 Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, MDC said: If Trump didn’t look at it how’s he know where the pubes were supposed to go? When you've grabbed as many poosies as trump, your hand just naturally goes there, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,082 Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: He never went any further and instead pivoted to how I have Trump Derangement Syndrome. That's always the last box on the workflow before "Did you lose the argument? Yes ->" I mean, if yes to my second question, then that would be kinda damning… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 459 Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, jerryskids said: Well, Daily Wire had three AI tools analyze it, which is three more actual sources than you've ever provided defending Hamas. But yeah, you are right, Trump probably wrote that third-person play-like thing with "enigma" and all. Saying "but Biden" is still an irrefutable defense of Trump not being implicated directly. Another moderate post from you. Seriously, you might be the least self-aware person on the interwebs. Just out of curiosity what is your view of the picture & inscription in the book suggesting Epstein gave (sold) a girl to Trump? (WSJ). Open question to any as well. There hasn’t been much discussion of this second reference to Trump in the birthday book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,634 Posted 3 hours ago If Trump signed this card, does it even matter if he personally drew the doodle and wrote the narration? Are we saying he not only didn’t write it, he didn’t even read it before signing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,832 Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Just out of curiosity what is your view of the picture & inscription in the book suggesting Epstein gave (sold) a girl to Trump? (WSJ). Open question to any as well. There hasn’t been much discussion of this second reference to Trump in the birthday book. Another disgusting example of Trump's vileness. Add it to the mountain of evidence that shows that Trump is covering this up. Maga response: He didn't actually sign the check, he's not in the photo, didn't approve this, it's fake, it's a hoax... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 459 Posted 3 hours ago Good summary of the (horrific) contents of the Epstein birthday book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites