Trump Announces Plans To Bring Back Fort ROBERT E. LEE

[Maximum Overkill 1,881]

 

Trump is brings it back, FINALLY 

"Fort Lee," previously named after Confederate General Robert E. Lee, was officially renamed Fort Gregg-Adams on April 27, 2023. This change was part of a broader effort to rename military bases and assets commemorating the Confederacy, a movement accelerated after the 2020 death of George Floyd and the ensuing racial justice reckoning. 

[TimHauck 2,696]

Stupid

[Maximum Overkill 1,881]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Stupid

It's wonderfull news and never should of been changed. It was a slap in the face to all soldiers who served there. 

[posty 2,657]

Which will then be changed back after his Presidency...  It shouldn't have been changed to begin with, but at the time, I guess that was a way to make some feel better...

One thing that was bad, IMO, was that pretty much everything that was changed from something dealing with the confederacy to someone that was black...  I just think something like this will cause issues the other way...

[Nomad99 719]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Stupid

Stupid like renaming things & then whining about someone else renames things? How bout we rename it Fort Gulf of Mexico?

[Ron_Artest 1,276]

Magas care about the stupidest things.  Such children.

[MDC 7,236]

Remember when Max-O was black?

[TimHauck 2,696]

2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

It's wonderfull news and never should have been changed. It was a slap in the face to all soldiers who served there. 

Why are we celebrating traitors and losers?

[squistion 2,078]

Trump will name something after Jefferson Davis...stay tuned.

[Horseman 2,438]

16 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Why are we celebrating traitors and losers?

Highly Uneducated 

[TimHauck 2,696]

7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Highly Uneducated 

Let me guess, you think slavery wasn’t a factor in why the Civil War happened?

[Horseman 2,438]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Let me guess, you think slavery wasn’t a factor in why the Civil War happened?

It was a factor, not THE reason you lemmings believe.  

Let me guess you didn't know Lee was instrumental in the Mexico-American war, you didn't know he was fundamentally against slavery, and you couldn't possibly list out a reason why he should be considered a traitor.  

You should stay down, you're way out of your league here.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,881]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Let me guess, you think slavery wasn’t a factor in why the Civil War happened?

That's where your wrong Chico. A Union soldier WOULD NEVER DIE FOR A BLACK MAN. And that's a quote from Sherman. 

At that time in history no white Man was going to war to free slaves and if you know your history you would know that Slavery was all but dead in the South at the time of the Civil War. Only a handful of very rich people could even afford to own a slave.  

They didn't want the South to succeed from the Union. If you think ANY of the Civil War was to free slaves then your an idiot, it was a guise to justify Sherman's March. 

[Horseman 2,438]

3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's where your wrong Chico. A Union soldier WOULD NEVER DIE FOR A BLACK MAN. And that's a quote from Sherman. 

At that time in history no white Man was going to war to free slaves and if you know your history you would know that Slavery was all but dead in the South at the time of the Civil War. Only a handful of very rich people could even afford to own a slave.  

They didn't want the South to succeed from the Union. If you think ANY of the Civil War was to free slaves then your an idiot, it was a guise to justify Sherman's March. 

Let me add on. 

It was a political divide, on many issues, sort of like if California and other states decided to succeed from the Union in today's political climate. It wouldn't be just one reason. 

And when Lincoln declared full on war it was not "let's go free the slaves", it was "the south is going to control all the ports and we will starve to death".  It was a matter of survival.  The blacks just came along for the ride. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,881]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

, it was "the south is going to control all the ports and we will starve to death"

100%. The South was very wealthy and controlled all trade from South America and the West Indies. 

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH FREEING BLACK PEOPLE. @TimHauck is very uneducated on this matter. 

[TimHauck 2,696]

12 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It was a factor, not THE reason you lemmings believe.  

Let me guess you didn't know Lee was instrumental in the Mexico-American war, you didn't know he was fundamentally against slavery, and you couldn't possibly list out a reason why he should be considered a traitor.  

You should stay down, you're way out of your league here.  

It was the biggest factor.

lol at you calling anyone “highly uneducated,” after you doubled down on thinking that “could care less” was correct grammar.

I’m not a historian, and I never said anything about Lee’s personal views on slavery.  

Yeah it’s cool that he wanted to reconcile after his side lost the war (= loser), but he fought for the Confederacy (= traitor).

What I stated was factual.  He was a traitor and a loser.

[jbycho 750]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

It was the biggest factor.

lol at you calling anyone “highly uneducated,” after you doubled down on thinking that “could care less” was correct grammar.

I’m not a historian, and I never said anything about Lee’s personal views on slavery.  

Yeah it’s cool that he wanted to reconcile after his side lost the war (= loser), but he fought for the Confederacy (= traitor).

What I stated was factual.  He was a traitor and a loser.

But you in fact are highly uneducated. 

[TimHauck 2,696]

13 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH FREEING BLACK PEOPLE

Lol.  Even @Horseman acknowledges this is a lie 

[thegeneral 3,077]

16 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It was a political divide, on many issues, sort of like if California and other states decided to succeed from the Union in today's political climate.

*secede 

[TimHauck 2,696]

Just now, thegeneral said:

*secede 

@Horseman thinks not knowing how to spell is a sign of intelligence.  Seriously, he’s said this in the past.

[CaptainObvious1 366]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Magas care about the stupidest things.  Such children.

I look forward to your 7am Trump rants.  A$$hat

[jbycho 750]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

@Horseman thinks not knowing how to spell is a sign of intelligence.  Seriously, he’s said this in the past.

@jbycho knows you are not intelligent. 

[supermike80 1,874]

Cleveland guardians.  Now thats dumb

[Ron_Artest 1,276]

55 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It was a factor, not THE reason you lemmings believe.  

Let me guess you didn't know Lee was instrumental in the Mexico-American war, you didn't know he was fundamentally against slavery, and you couldn't possibly list out a reason why he should be considered a traitor.  

You should stay down, you're way out of your league here.  

Just when I thought we met our dumb post quota today, horsesh1t shows up.

[5-Points 3,451]

53 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Let me add on. 

It was a political divide, on many issues, sort of like if California and other states decided to succeed from the Union in today's political climate. It wouldn't be just one reason. 

And when Lincoln declared full on war it was not "let's go free the slaves", it was "the south is going to control all the ports and we will starve to death".  It was a matter of survival.  The blacks just came along for the ride. 

"I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality ... I will add to this that I have never seen, to my knowledge, a man, woman, or child who was in favor of producing a perfect equality, social and political, between negroes and white men."

-A. Lincoln

[iam90sbaby 2,533]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Why are we celebrating traitors and losers?

It's funny when you think you're smart

[iam90sbaby 2,533]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's where your wrong Chico. A Union soldier WOULD NEVER DIE FOR A BLACK MAN. And that's a quote from Sherman. 

At that time in history no white Man was going to war to free slaves and if you know your history you would know that Slavery was all but dead in the South at the time of the Civil War. Only a handful of very rich people could even afford to own a slave.  

They didn't want the South to succeed from the Union. If you think ANY of the Civil War was to free slaves then your an idiot, it was a guise to justify Sherman's March. 

Yep, people that think a bunch of adults with families at home in the north left it all behind to free some nogs in the south are dumb as hell.

[TimHauck 2,696]

8 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

It's funny when you think you're smart

Robert E Lee was a traitor and loser.  Fact.

[Ron_Artest 1,276]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Robert E Lee was a traitor and loser.  Fact.

They are attracted to traitors and losers.

[easilyscan 906]

3 hours ago, posty said:

Which will then be changed back after his Presidency... 

Absolutely. Such a silly nation we've become. 

This thread reminds me of something that happened some years ago in my hometown Of Mankato Minnesota.

They wanted to change Sibley Park to something else. A group of libtards (none of which were native Americans) @ the state university came up with the idea.

Pulled this quote from something called craigslist rants and raves. This guy articulated it perfectly.

Yet another disheveled group of dipshites trying to make themselves feel good by engaging in what they perceive as social justice. If you want to do something productive how about you take your Ph.D. and do some of the heavy-lifting. Work to close the wage gap for Native Americans that are actually living right now. How about you work on reducing substance abuse, domestic abuse, or homelessness crisis in this community? You don't because it's hard work and won't get your name in the paper. Christ, don't you folks ever get tired of engaging in public catharsis?

 

 

[TimHauck 2,696]

4 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

Absolutely. Such a silly nation we've become. 

This thread reminds me of something that happened some years ago in my hometown Of Mankato Minnesota.

They wanted to change Sibley Park to something else. A group of libtards (none of which were native Americans) @ the state university came up with the idea.

Pulled this quote from something called craigslist rants and raves. This guy articulated it perfectly.

Yet another disheveled group of dipshites trying to make themselves feel good by engaging in what they perceive as social justice. If you want to do something productive how about you take your Ph.D. and do some of the heavy-lifting. Work to close the wage gap for Native Americans that are actually living right now. How about you work on reducing substance abuse, domestic abuse, or homelessness crisis in this community? You don't because it's hard work and won't get your name in the paper. Christ, don't you folks ever get tired of engaging in public catharsis?

 

 

To clarify, you think it’s silly to change it back to Robert E Lee, correct?

[jbycho 750]

31 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Robert E Lee was a traitor and loser.  Fact.

He was an iconic hero.

Here's your real villain in this country. A rock. 

The University of Wisconsin-Madison moved a large boulder known as Chamberlin Rock from its campus in August 2021 after students voiced that the rock was a painful symbol of racism. 

[Horseman 2,438]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

A - It was the biggest factor.

B - but he fought for the Confederacy (= traitor)

A - No it wasn't. The north had to declare war and hope take over the ports or they starve to death. That's just fact and your gradeschool American history lessons are wrong.  

B - His state ceceded (Virginia because I know youre clueless on these things) and he had a choice to make even though he was fundamentally against slavery and fundamentally against the union breaking apart he chose to stay with his family, his friends and neighbors.  That meant a lot more back then.  And if the south would have won I suppose everyone in the north would have been a traitor in the gradeschool history books.  California ceceds today and we know which side you're on.  They were all Americans, many of them fought together in previous wars.  Lee fought along side Grant in the Mexico-American war. There is only one group who wants to rewrite history to change that fact and it's the uneducated weaklings that you're a member of. 

THE END 

[jbycho 750]

I love the history of the US. Liberals want to wipe 99%of it out. 

[easilyscan 906]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

To clarify, you think it’s silly to change it back to Robert E Lee, correct?

No. It's silly that they ever changed it from Robert E Lee. 

I like & agree with what the guy articulated in his rant.

Basically that you get a bunch of young God hating, guilt ridden, white liberals who think they can change things simply by changing the name of the park, instead of actually working to address the problems that exist for Native Americans today. 

Hope that answers your question.

 

 

[TimHauck 2,696]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

And if the south would have won I suppose everyone in the north would have been a traitor in the gradeschool history books.  California ceceds today and we know which side you're on.  

If California secedes they are traitors.  (Ceceds, lol)

If the South won they still would have been traitors to the US.  They just would have created a new country most likely.

Well at least you acknowledge Lee was a loser.  Progress I guess.

[TimHauck 2,696]

Just now, easilyscan said:

No. It's silly that they ever changed it from Robert E Lee. 

I like & agree with what the guy articulated in his rant.

Basically that you get a bunch of young God hating, guilt ridden, white liberals who think they can change things simply by changing the name of the park, instead of actually working to address the problems that exist for Native Americans today. 

Hope that answers your question.

 

 

Ok hypocrite 

[Ron_Artest 1,276]

8 minutes ago, Horseman said:

A - No it wasn't. The north had to declare war and hope take over the ports or they starve to death. That's just fact and your gradeschool American history lessons are wrong.  

B - His state ceceded (Virginia because I know youre clueless on these things) and he had a choice to make even though he was fundamentally against slavery and fundamentally against the union breaking apart he chose to stay with his family, his friends and neighbors.  That meant a lot more back then.  And if the south would have won I suppose everyone in the north would have been a traitor in the gradeschool history books.  California ceceds today and we know which side you're on.  They were all Americans, many of them fought together in previous wars.  Lee fought along side Grant in the Mexico-American war. There is only one group who wants to rewrite history to change that fact and it's the uneducated weaklings that you're a member of. 

THE END 

[Horseman 2,438]

Just now, TimHauck said:

If California secedes they are traitors.  (Ceceds, lol)

If the South won they still would have been traitors to the US.  They just would have created a new country most likely.

Well at least you acknowledge Lee was a loser.  Progress I guess.

He lost a couple of major battles, but, won a lot more than he lost and played an essential role in American history.  There is no telling what happens if he doesn't discover the routes that Mexico left unguarded.  Not my fault you're a history illiterate.  Every time you label an important historical figure with a simpleton title you expose yourself as the autistic retard that you are. I'd suggest just shutting it down on most topics that you're not capable of debating.  

[Mark Davis 375]

Every time these things come up we want to sit in judgment of a time long gone.  By today's values, most every man of that time was flawed.  The truth is that at the time, people often viewed themselves as citizens of their states first.  The entire populace would have had to have been "traitors", and if it happened today they would be.  But that wasn't the case in that period of time. 

As someone who grew up in the heart of the old South these things rarely come up here.  I can't tell you the last time I saw the old stars and bars flag.  It doesn't bother me one way or the other what we do with the names.  Now, I do agree when the Montgomery schools changed their major high schools names from Jeff Davis and Robert E Lee.  Shockingly that's only been within the last few years.  Those schools are almost 100% black and being reasonable I get why the folks there wanted the name change.  No issue here at all.  However, I don't think we should erase these people from the history books and things that were named for them.  Robert E Lee didn't live in 2025, he was an old man by the 1860's.  I don't think many people of the time would pass judgment by modern standards.