seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 01:33 PM oh no. https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-warns-us-joining-conflict-would-mean-all-out-war-refuses-demands-give-up-disputed-nuclear-program Iran warned that the United States joining forces with Israel would mean an "all-out war," as Israel bombarded sites overnight that it says would have allowed Iran to continue enriching uranium, as well as attack Israeli forces. "Any American intervention would be a recipe for an all-out war in the region," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Esmail Baghaei warned Wednesday during an interview with Al Jazeera English. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,555 Posted Wednesday at 01:38 PM Listen, I don’t want us getting involved as I voted for the US to mind its own business and take care of ourselves. But who the fock does Iran think they are, talking to us like that. They’re like a mosquito at a 4th of July picnic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 01:46 PM 13 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: Listen, I don’t want us getting involved as I voted for the US to mind its own business and take care of ourselves. But who the fock does Iran think they are talking to us like that. They’re like a mosquito at a 4th of July picnic. I'm with you 100% But I'm sick and tired of Iran. I truly wish that Iran becomes an empty wasteland in the middle east by the end of all this that normal people can take over and build up again. They have been a garbage dumpster fire since the beginning of time it seems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,901 Posted Wednesday at 01:49 PM It's obvious that Iran has nothing left in the tank. If they did they would of used it by now to save this regimes asss, or at least try to. The threat is pretty much eliminated at this point IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 01:54 PM 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: It's obvious that Iran has nothing left in the tank. If they did they would of used it by now to save this regimes asss, or at least try to. The threat is pretty much eliminated at this point IMO. The threat will come back if the job of getting rid of them completely isn't seen through. They are literally cancer on this planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,901 Posted Wednesday at 01:56 PM 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: The threat will come back if the job of getting rid of them completely isn't seen through. They are literally cancer on this planet. Agree, but sometimes the Evil you know is better than the Evil you don't know. If that Government topples then it opens up a whole other world of problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 39 Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM 7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: It's obvious that Iran has nothing left in the tank. If they did they would of used it by now to save this regimes asss, or at least try to. The threat is pretty much eliminated at this point IMO. The threat is not militarily. It's through terrorist attacks and disruption of our very comfy lives. Can the average Americans accept that without losing their collective sh#t? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,701 Posted Wednesday at 01:57 PM They already hate us and chant death to America Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,901 Posted Wednesday at 01:58 PM Just now, blick said: The threat is not militarily. It's through terrorist attacks and disruption of our very comfy lives. Can the average Americans accept that without losing their collective sh#t? My point exactly in my last post 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,248 Posted Wednesday at 01:59 PM 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Agree, but sometimes the Evil you know is better than the Evil you don't know. If that Government topples then it opens up a whole other world of problems. Like trying to get a nuke and saying they plan on using it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,901 Posted Wednesday at 02:00 PM Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Like trying to get a nuke and saying they plan on using it? Yup, and perhaps even more so. Maybe next time they actually get one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: My point exactly in my last post And my point is to conquer them completely. Allow Israel to do it. With the US in the deep background. Get some buy in from another nation for even more cover. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,901 Posted Wednesday at 02:02 PM Just now, seafoam1 said: And my point is to conquer them completely. Allow Israel to do it. With the US in the deep background. Get some buy from another nation for even more cover. And I'm totally fine with that, as long as the US isn't the occupier. Let Israel deal with the consequences. Trump needs to stay out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,701 Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM 6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Agree, but sometimes the Evil you know is better than the Evil you don't know. If that Government topples then it opens up a whole other world of problems. You were certainly right in Lybia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM Just now, Maximum Overkill said: And I'm totally fine with that, as long as the US isn't the occupier. Let Israel deal with the consequences. Trump needs to stay out Trump needs to be a player in this game. Simply more in a director rather than an actor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blick 39 Posted Wednesday at 02:06 PM 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: And I'm totally fine with that, as long as the US isn't the occupier. Let Israel deal with the consequences. Trump needs to stay out I think the best situation is for an uprising by the Iranian people. Somewhere in one of these threads it mentioned that we need to get "real" news and not so subtle encouragement to do so. I agree 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,318 Posted Wednesday at 02:07 PM See @BunnysBastatrds this what you should be annoyed with. We already have a Iran War thread, at the top of the page, and this choad creates another one. And people post in it. If we're trying to limit the number of political threads, your culprit is right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,701 Posted Wednesday at 02:08 PM 3 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: And I'm totally fine with that, as long as the US isn't the occupier. Let Israel deal with the consequences. Trump needs to stay out I think most agree on this . No troops on the ground Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,248 Posted Wednesday at 02:09 PM Why do we have to occupy anything? Are we going to occupy Ukraine when that’s over? Let them pick up their own pieces if they behave. Unleash terror and you get more of the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:11 PM 3 minutes ago, HellToupee said: I think most agree on this . No troops on the ground No doubt. But we can be instrumental in seeing they are wiped clean from the planet. And I'm this government is already working on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,276 Posted Wednesday at 02:12 PM I am surprised the Iran Foriegn Ministry Spokesperson amde that statement. Seems like a way to get on Isreal's list of officials who are about to get eliminated like their predecessors from last week. Militarily Iran is nothing right now. If they get the bomb that is another matter, but they are no military threat. Whether they have sleeper cells in this country able to disrupt our infrastructure is another matter. imagine if they managed to blow up the Hoover damn taking power and more importantly water from the west and southwest. imagine if they damed one lock on the Great lakes or St. Lawrence Seaway crippling shipping, or if they managed to substantially damage a port or perhaps a rail bridge over the Mississippi. Imagine maybe one of our bigger oil refineries being taken down. We are internally vulnerable and they may be here already. I for one think they are here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,276 Posted Wednesday at 02:15 PM I wonder how quickly an experienced Isreali pilot who is already flying our fighters could be trained up to fly the B2. Could we see a modern Lend/Lease of that platform? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:17 PM 1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said: I am surprised the Iran Foriegn Ministry Spokesperson amde that statement. Seems like a way to get on Isreal's list of officials who are about to get eliminated like their predecessors from last week. Militarily iran is nothing right now. If they get the bomb that is another matter, but they are no military threat. Whether they hasve sleeper cells in this country able to disrupt our infrastructure is another matter. imagine if they managed to blow up the hoover damn taking power and more importantly water from the west and southwest. imagine if they damed one lock on the Great lakes or St. Lawrence Seaway crippling shipping, or if they managed to substantially damage a port or perhaps a rail bridge over the Mississippi. We are internally vulnerable and they may be here already. I for one think they are here. We have had completely open borders for 4 years under biden. What do you think? They are also using various South American gangs to deflect from their purpose. They are here and are planning mightily. And liberal American citizens are rioting to keep them here. It's freaking surreal. 10 million illegals just let in to this country over the past 4 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:25 PM 9 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I wonder how quickly an experienced isreali pilot who is already flying our fighters could be trained up to fly the B2. Could we see a modern Lend/Lease of that platform? They just have to get past the democrat checkpoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:37 PM 29 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: See @BunnysBastatrds this what you should be annoyed with. We already have a Iran War thread, at the top of the page, and this choad creates another one. And people post in it. If we're trying to limit the number of political threads, your culprit is right here. And you seem to post in all of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 37 Posted Wednesday at 02:39 PM 47 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Agree, but sometimes the Evil you know is better than the Evil you don't know. If that Government topples then it opens up a whole other world of problems. Where was that MAGA mindset in regard to Ukraine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 37 Posted Wednesday at 02:41 PM 36 minutes ago, HellToupee said: You were certainly right in Lybia It's Libya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:42 PM Just now, Sandy Loam said: Where was that MAGA mindset in regard to Ukraine? who cares about that slave nation of ukraine That's where. Sorry rusty. you are struggling in life again still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,276 Posted Wednesday at 02:42 PM 1 minute ago, Sandy Loam said: It's Libya. Labia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,108 Posted Wednesday at 02:44 PM Sounds a lot like Putin’s bluster. Only hesitation I have is who would be next up. If you take out these nuclear positions, you gotta go all the way and take out the leadership as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,901 Posted Wednesday at 02:46 PM 6 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: Where was that MAGA mindset in regard to Ukraine? Are we overthrowing Ukraine? There's absolutely zero similarly Ukraine is Biden's War Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 02:49 PM 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Are we overthrowing Ukraine? There's absolutely zero similarly Ukraine is Biden's War It's rusty. He's a clown. That's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 37 Posted Wednesday at 02:56 PM 4 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Are we overthrowing Ukraine? There's absolutely zero similarly Ukraine is Biden's War I'm trying to get a handle on what the MAGA mindset is here. We are defending Ukraine against evil, and a Russian takeover of it would cause worldwide problems and instability. But now MAGA - which called Biden a warmonger - is all about going on offense to defeat Iran and overthrow its leadership? WTF? The last time we did this didn't work out so well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted Wednesday at 03:12 PM 16 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: I'm trying to get a handle on what the MAGA mindset is here. We are defending Ukraine against evil, and a Russian takeover of it would cause worldwide problems and instability. But now MAGA - which called Biden a warmonger - is all about going on offense to defeat Iran and overthrow its leadership? WTF? The last time we did this didn't work out so well. WTF cares about Ukraine? And you are the one boasting that Ukraine is bombing the F out of Russia. This is Iran. poor rusty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,248 Posted Wednesday at 03:40 PM 59 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: Where was that MAGA mindset in regard to Ukraine? Russia already has nukes. Wow. This is about nukes, not land. You know that, right? JHC. Read something once in a while newspaper man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 37 Posted Wednesday at 03:51 PM 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Russia already has nukes. Wow. This is about nukes, not land. You know that, right? JHC. Read something once in a while newspaper man. What Trump is saying is possible is our military involvement in Iran to defeat it and have a regime change. You have been loud and clear about your opposition to us doing this to Iraq, even though at the time of the invasion Iraq was thought to have WMDs and was led by a brutal dictator and regime. You have been loud and clear about your opposition to us helping defend a democratic, free Ukraine against a dicatator during the bloodiest conflict on European soil since World War II. Tactical strikes on Iran in the past have taken out its nuclear capablities, and now MAGA is rooting for us to engage in all-out war to take over Iran and take out its leadership, which in the past led to unfortunate results and Iran's bitter hatred of us. What it boils down to is Trump saying this, and his followers tossing out the paradigm applied to past conflicts and falling in lockstep with whatever he says. Suddenly after calling Democrats "warmongerers" for years, MAGAs are all for taking out Iran. Against our involvement in foreign conflicts one minute and then totally for it the next. Hypocritical sheeple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,278 Posted Wednesday at 03:54 PM I tend to trust Trump not to get us involved in new foreign conflicts because that’s been his thing from the beginning. But Trump contradicting Tulsi on Iran and the TV spots I’ve been seeing about Iran’s “unacceptable” nuclear program make me nervous that we’ll get roped into this somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 563 Posted Wednesday at 03:55 PM 1 minute ago, Sandy Loam said: What Trump is saying is possible is our military involvement in Iran to defeat it and have a regime change. You have been loud and clear about your opposition to us doing this to Iraq, even though at the time of the invasion Iraq was thought to have WMDs and was led by a brutal dictator and regime. You have been loud and clear about your opposition to us helping defend a democratic, free Ukraine against a dicatator during the bloodiest conflict on European soil since World War II. Tactical strikes on Iran in the past have taken out its nuclear capablities, and now MAGA is rooting for us to engage in all-out war to take over Iran and take out its leadership, which in the past led to unfortunate results and Iran's bitter hatred of us. What it boils down to is Trump saying this, and his followers tossing out the paradigm applied to past conflicts and falling in lockstep with whatever he says. Suddenly after calling Democrats "warmongerers" for years, MAGAs are all for taking out Iran. Against our involvement in foreign conflicts one minute and then totally for it the next. Hypocritical sheeple. Yet if Iran throws a nuke at new york. All you lefties would be the first ones to cry in your panties for the government to respond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,605 Posted Wednesday at 03:58 PM 5 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: , and now MAGA is rooting for us to engage in all-out war to take over Iran and take out its leadership, With the possible exception of Lindsey Graham, I haven’t read anyone express this opinion, includIng MAGA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,248 Posted Wednesday at 04:04 PM 13 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: What Trump is saying is possible is our military involvement in Iran to defeat it and have a regime change. You have been loud and clear about your opposition to us doing this to Iraq, even though at the time of the invasion Iraq was thought to have WMDs and was led by a brutal dictator and regime. You have been loud and clear about your opposition to us helping defend a democratic, free Ukraine against a dicatator during the bloodiest conflict on European soil since World War II. Tactical strikes on Iran in the past have taken out its nuclear capablities, and now MAGA is rooting for us to engage in all-out war to take over Iran and take out its leadership, which in the past led to unfortunate results and Iran's bitter hatred of us. What it boils down to is Trump saying this, and his followers tossing out the paradigm applied to past conflicts and falling in lockstep with whatever he says. Suddenly after calling Democrats "warmongerers" for years, MAGAs are all for taking out Iran. Against our involvement in foreign conflicts one minute and then totally for it the next. Hypocritical sheeple. Such a liar. Sure sign Rusty took another hit to the balls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites