SCOTUS rules on state ban on gender transition 'treatments' for minors in landmark case

[seafoam1 3,025]

How can the SC rule on a case that involves gender when at least one of them doesn't even know what a woman is?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-rules-state-ban-gender-transition-treatments-minors-landmark-case

The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that a Tennessee law banning gender-transition treatments for adolescents in the state is not discriminatory.

At issue in the case, United States v. Skrmetti, was whether Tennessee's Senate Bill 1, which "prohibits all medical treatments intended to allow 'a minor to identify with, or live as, a purported identity inconsistent with the minor's sex' or to treat 'purported discomfort or distress from a discordance between the minor's sex and asserted identity,'" violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Writing for the majority, Chief Justice John Roberts said that the law in question is not subject to heightened scrutiny "because it does not classify on any bases that warrant heightened review."

All three liberal justices notably dissented in the case.

 

That law in question prohibits states from allowing medical providers to deliver puberty blockers and hormones to facilitate a minor's transition to another sex.

It also targets healthcare providers in the state who continue to provide such procedures to gender-dysphoric minors – opening these providers up to fines, lawsuits and other liability. 

The court's ruling comes after many other states have moved to ban or restrict medical treatments and procedures for transgender adolescents, drawing close attention to the case. During the oral arguments, justices on the Supreme Court appeared reluctant to overturn Senate Bill 1, with Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggesting that state legislatures, rather than courts, are best equipped to regulate medical procedures. 

The Constitution leaves such questions "to the people's representatives," Roberts said, rather than to nine justices on the Supreme Court, "none of whom is a doctor." 

Justice Samuel Alito cited "hotly disputed" medical studies on the alleged benefits of such medical treatments. He also referred to other research from Great Britain and Sweden that reported on the negative consequences teens experienced after undergoing gender transition treatments.

Alito told the government's attorney that those studies "found a complete lack of high-quality evidence showing that the benefits of the treatments in question here outweigh the risks." 

"Do you dispute that?" Alito asked during oral arguments.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor, however, countered with evidence from underage individuals that were denied treatment.

"Some children suffer incredibly with gender dysphoria, don't they? I think some attempt suicide?" she said. "The state has come in here and, in a sharp departure from how it normally addresses this issue, it has completely decided to override the views of the parents, the patients, the doctors who are grappling with these decisions and trying to make those trade-offs."

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) are the petitioners in the case, representing the parents of three transgender adolescents and a Memphis-based doctor who treats transgender patients. 

The Biden administration had previously joined the petitioners in the case via a federal law that allows the administration to intervene in certain cases certified by the attorney general to be of "general public importance." 

[Sandy Loam 108]

Trannies live rent free in your head.

[seafoam1 3,025]

1 minute ago, Sandy Loam said:

Trannies live rent free in your head.

poor rusty is hurting again...

[jerryskids 6,799]

This could be big.

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Writing for the majority, Chief Justice John Roberts said that the law in question is not subject to heightened scrutiny "because it does not classify on any bases that warrant heightened review."

This seems to be saying that trans children are not a protected class.  Which might lead to saying trans adults are not a protected class.

[TheNewGirl 1,491]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This could be big.

This seems to be saying that trans children are not a protected class.  Which might lead to saying trans adults are not a protected class.

Aren't they lumped in with the LGBTQA+? Aren't all of those a protected class? 

[MDC 7,427]

 

[jerryskids 6,799]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

 

This is a big case, dummy.  Adults are talking, and seafoam.  Shh.

[BrahmaBulls 763]

47 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

Trannies live rent free in your head.

Sounds like they live rent free in your basement

[Sandy Loam 108]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This is a big case, dummy.  Adults are talking, and seafoam.  Shh.

So you don't want LGBTQ adults to be a protected class?

[BrahmaBulls 763]

2 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said:

So you don't want LGBTQ adults to be a protected class?

Adolescents are adults?

[Sandy Loam 108]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Sounds like they live rent free in your basement

If I had a basement and a tranny lived in it, rent would be required.

[Sandy Loam 108]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Adolescents are adults?

Follow the conversation:

Jerry said this ruling could lead to LGBTQ adults not being a protected class.

I responded by asking whether he believes LGBTQ adults should not be a protected class.

No one is classifying adolescents as adults, so your question makes no sense.

Start over and ask a question that makes sense and is relevant to the conversation.

[BrahmaBulls 763]

Just now, Sandy Loam said:

Follow the conversation:

Jerry said this ruling could lead to LGBTQ adults not being a protected class.

I responded by asking whether he believes LGBTQ adults should not be a protected class.

No one is classifying adolescents as adults, so your question makes no sense.

Start over and ask a question that makes sense and is relevant to the conversation.

Your first post in the thread went off the rails.  Take your own advice.  Congrats on the zinger that you've used over 100 times with at least 3 accounts I guess.  

[MDC 7,427]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This is a big case, dummy.  Adults are talking, and seafoam.  Shh.

The BrahmaBulls / Sandy Loam conversation is bound to be enlightening.  

[Sandy Loam 108]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

The BrahmaBulls / Sandy Loam conversation is bound to be enlightening.  

I'm out. He's not following the conversation.

I'd still like to know whether Jerry is rooting for LGBTQ adults to be an unprotected class. 

The LGBTQ adults I know are against any kind of gender-affirming care for anyone under 18 years old, and most of them think it should be 21. They also don't care for shoving the LGBTQ agenda down people's throats and just want to live their lives.

But if someone assaults an LGBTQ person because they are LGBTQ, that should be a hate crime. 

[BrahmaBulls 763]

35 minutes ago, MDC said:

 

 

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

The BrahmaBulls / Sandy Loam conversation is bound to be enlightening.  

Great point from the guy obsessed with rainbow emojis.  

[squistion 2,201]

 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

Question: does anyone here who supports this decision also support making it illegal for adults to receive this same medical care? 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,859]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Question: does anyone here who supports this decision also support making it illegal for adults to receive this same medical care? 

If nut jobs want to go get their dongs cut off, go ahead. Just pay for it out of your own purse.  

[TheNewGirl 1,491]

16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Question: does anyone here who supports this decision also support making it illegal for adults to receive this same medical care? 

No. 

Adults are completely different than CHILDREN, but I understand this is a questionable area for you. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Question: does anyone here who supports this decision also support making it illegal for adults to receive this same medical care? 

I'm okay with adults getting for it and PAYING for it with their own money (no SS, no Medicaid, not covered under military either) and as long as they conform to the rules regarding their BIRTH sex, not their FAKE sex:

• Trannies get the mental health treatment they need before any surgery
• Trannies cannot go into spaces that don't conform to their BIRTH sex/gender (sex and gender being one and the same)
• Trannies cannot play in sports that don't conform to their BIRTH sex/gender
• Trannies cannot force (by law or otherwise) the 99.999% of normal adults to call them by their fake pronouns.
• Trannies must immediately identify themselves as trans to potential romantic partners.  This is to protect themselves from harm.

Off the top of my head, that's it.  Might think of some more restrictions later on, but that seems very reasonable.

[Maximum Overkill 1,989]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Question: does anyone here who supports this decision also support making it illegal for adults to receive this same medical care? 

Self Mutilation??? 

WHAT DO YOU THINK? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Question: does anyone here who supports this decision also support making it illegal for adults to receive this same medical care? 

about time common sense stepped up

if adults want to pretend and cut off their junk go for it, although they are mentally unstable, and wish they got the help to fix that instead

 

[squistion 2,201]

 

[Fnord 2,272]

49 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm okay with adults getting for it and PAYING for it with their own money (no SS, no Medicaid, not covered under military either) and as long as they conform to the rules regarding their BIRTH sex, not their FAKE sex:

• Trannies get the mental health treatment they need before any surgery
• Trannies cannot go into spaces that don't conform to their BIRTH sex/gender (sex and gender being one and the same)
• Trannies cannot play in sports that don't conform to their BIRTH sex/gender
• Trannies cannot force (by law or otherwise) the 99.999% of normal adults to call them by their fake pronouns.
• Trannies must immediately identify themselves as trans to potential romantic partners.  This is to protect themselves from harm.

Off the top of my head, that's it.  Might think of some more restrictions later on, but that seems very reasonable.

Pretty good list, and I'm mostly in agreement. I'll nitpick #4, though. While I agree it should not be enforceable, refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns is just a dik move. Forgetting to call them by their preferred pronoun isn't quite as bad, but it's still shitty.

I have a friend that's trans, and we told her that calling her a her was an insane expectation since we've known her as a him for almost 30 years. She agreed it was okay for us to say him/he/his, given how long we've known each other. But I've also accidentally called a subordinate at work he instead of she, and while she was cool about it, I felt pretty bad about it. 

Moral of the story is just treat others with respect, even if you think their life choices are insane.

[squistion 2,201]

6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Pretty good list, and I'm mostly in agreement. I'll nitpick #4, though. While I agree it should not be enforceable, refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns is just a dik move. Forgetting to call them by their preferred pronoun isn't quite as bad, but it's still shitty.

Completely.

I don't think that it is too much to ask that someone be called by their preferred name or pronoun (that is an issue of basic respect that everyone should be accorded). 

[TheNewGirl 1,491]

46 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Pretty good list, and I'm mostly in agreement. I'll nitpick #4, though. While I agree it should not be enforceable, refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns is just a dik move. Forgetting to call them by their preferred pronoun isn't quite as bad, but it's still shitty.

I have a friend that's trans, and we told her that calling her a her was an insane expectation since we've known her as a him for almost 30 years. She agreed it was okay for us to say him/he/his, given how long we've known each other. But I've also accidentally called a subordinate at work he instead of she, and while she was cool about it, I felt pretty bad about it. 

Moral of the story is just treat others with respect, even if you think their life choices are insane.

I also have a friend that's transmale. New pronouns and a new name. It was difficult at first to use their new name and pronouns but after a while, it just became natural. 

NOW...If I come across and stranger and use the wrong pronouns, "Hello, sir!" And that person goes off or gets mad at me, it's not my fault that you literally look like a dude in a dress. If you calmly tell me, "It's actually ma'am." Ok, I'll call you that. 

Lilly Tino is a TikTok trans person that does this on purpose. Looks like a man with long hair that wears make up and dresses, still sounds like a man when talking. Someone says, "Thank you, sir" and the phone is out and recording the interaction...Lilly does it on purpose tho. Recently was in Disney World and used women's restrooms and TOOK PICTURES. So there's a big old up roar about the pictures because Lilly included women in the background. In a public restroom. That's just disgusting. 

[jerryskids 6,799]

3 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

So you don't want LGBTQ adults to be a protected class?

 

3 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

I'm out. He's not following the conversation.

I'd still like to know whether Jerry is rooting for LGBTQ adults to be an unprotected class. 

The LGBTQ adults I know are against any kind of gender-affirming care for anyone under 18 years old, and most of them think it should be 21. They also don't care for shoving the LGBTQ agenda down people's throats and just want to live their lives.

But if someone assaults an LGBTQ person because they are LGBTQ, that should be a hate crime. 

I think that just because you group a bunch of people into a long acronym, doesn't mean that the gay and trans situations are the same.

There are plenty of examples where I don't think trans people should be protected.  A few examples:  women's prisons, women's sports (generally), customer facing positions within companies.  So I don't believe in the same sort of protections for trans as given to, say, race/ethnicity.

HTH

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Completely.

I don't think that it is too much to ask that someone be called by their preferred name or pronoun (that is an issue of basic respect that everyone should be accorded). 

Ok. But they have to ask nice. 

[Grace Under Pressure 114]

It's cute that people think they get to be in charge of the rules for other individuals. Like someone gives a flying fock about your bullet point rules lmaoooooo.

Most trannies could probably kick your ass, and they probably would if you weren't too scared to say something to their face. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

2 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

It's cute that people think they get to be in charge of the rules for other individuals. Like someone gives a flying fock about your bullet point rules lmaoooooo.

Most trannies could probably kick your ass, and they probably would if you weren't too scared to say something to their face. 

Look at this iToughGuy Ghey Under Pressure talking from the safety of his mom's basement. 

[Gladiators 1,987]

It's cute that people think they get to tell others what pronoun to call them.  Like someone gives a flying fock that you want to be called ma'am when you look like a man.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

1 minute ago, Gladiators said:

It's cute that people think they get to tell others what pronoun to call them.  Like someone gives a flying fock that you want to be called ma'am when you look like a man.

Yep.   Sorry, but science and reality are what you get.

[seafoam1 3,025]

3 hours ago, Gladiators said:

It's cute that people think they get to tell others what pronoun to call them.  Like someone gives a flying fock that you want to be called ma'am when you look like a man.

It's mind-numbing. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

So the states can ban it if they want? Thats cool. Just like the constitution calls for. 

[Ron_Artest 1,532]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/opinion/supreme-court-trans-care.html?unlocked_article_code=1.P08.eIpO.tCDn4Remjkjb&smid=re-nytopinion

Essay written by the mother of the kid if you're interested in learning the other side and testing your empathy.

[seafoam1 3,025]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Essay written by the mother.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

Poor Ghey Artest.  What is he going to do now?  He was halfway thru transitioning!!!

[Grace Under Pressure 114]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/opinion/supreme-court-trans-care.html?unlocked_article_code=1.P08.eIpO.tCDn4Remjkjb&smid=re-nytopinion

Essay written by the mother of the kid if you're interested in learning the other side and testing your empathy.

Narrator: “They weren’t interested” 

[seafoam1 3,025]

Why can't liberals just leave the kids alone? Why are they so obsessed with destroying their lives?