NYC Mayor Race

[seafoam1 2,934]

2 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

It's the definition of racist.  Why is it so hard for you to say?  You're wrong about this guy yet again.   

 DEFINITION of racism. 

He simply doesn't see it. Tim is so freaking dumb. 

[TimHauck 2,736]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Agree with all this but he shouldn’t have said “whiter”. It’s not quite racist but it’s borderline. 

I agree he “shouldn’t” have said it, because it could turn off voters.  But it’s not racist, it’s facts.

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

5 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

It's the definition of racist.  Why is it so hard for you to say?  You're wrong about this guy yet again.   

Because it isn’t. And it also doesn’t contradict any of my points, which I’ve noticed you have again failed to challenge. 

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I agree he “shouldn’t” have said it, because it could turn off voters.  But it’s not racist, it’s facts.

I agree. That’s why I wrote “borderline.” I think that’s accurate. It’s certainly not the “definition” of racism (like calling someone a DEI hire.) 

The truth is it’s very difficult to be racist against whites in our society. It’s not impossible, there ARE rare examples from time to time, but it’s difficult, because whites have so much privilege and control of all the power structures. 
 

Those that spend their time almost exclusively focusing on (almost always mythical or way overstated) racism against whites, such as our President, and those who support him doing so, are usually often guilty of racism themselves IMO. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,038]

21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Never mind I found it. He says he wants to  tax “richer and whiter neighborhoods”. 

That’s unfortunate. He never should have said “whiter”; it borders on racism. Just another thing that would cause me not to support this guy in a sane world. 

My point stands that his tax ideas are irrelevant because as mayor he has no power to enact them.  

It is racist.  Replace "whiter" with "blacker" and let me know if you feel the same. 

[BrahmaBulls 662]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Because it isn’t. And it also doesn’t contradict any of my points, which I’ve noticed you have again failed to challenge. 

Let's tax the Jew neighborhoods or the black neighborhoods.  Racist or not?

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

It is racist.  Replace "whiter" with "blacker" and let me know if you feel the same. 

I would t feel the same. If he used “blacker” it wouldn’t be borderline it would be full out racism. I apply a double standard which I fully believe to be justified.  

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

Let's tax the Jew neighborhoods or the black neighborhoods.  Racist or not?

The first would be anti-Semitic. The second full blown racism. Wanting to tax whiter neighborhoods is borderline racism, falls in the “maybe” crack. Not the same. 

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Imagine if Trump wanted higher taxes on "blacker" neighborhoods.  The Tims would be up in arms.  But "Whiter."  that's not RACIST, AT ALL!!!!!

[BrahmaBulls 662]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

The first would be anti-Semitic. The second full blown racism. Wanting to tax whiter neighborhoods is borderline racism, falls in the “maybe” crack. Not the same. 

All 3 are equally racist or not racist at all.  That is fact.   STFU until you can accept that.

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

All 3 are equally racist or not racist at all.  That is fact.   STFU until you can accept that.

I don’t accept it. 

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Imagine if Trump wanted higher taxes on "blacker" neighborhoods.  The Tims would be up in arms.  But "Whiter."  that's not RACIST, AT ALL!!!!!

Yes I would be up in arms. And the use of the word “whiter” is problematic but only borderline. Not the same. 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Wanting to tax whiter neighborhoods is borderline racism, falls in the “maybe” crack

    

never disappoints

[BrahmaBulls 662]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t accept it. 

Then STFU

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes I would be up in arms. And the use of the word “whiter” is problematic but only borderline. Not the same. 

Blacker is racist but whiter is not.  You are not a serious poster.

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Blacker is racist but whiter is not.  You are not a serious poster.

You’re not. You and others keep insisting that there is no difference, that we already live in Martin Luther King’s dream. We don’t. There is still tons of white privilege. There is still tons of institutional racism. Until we eliminate that, and it will be a long struggle, it’s just not the same. Taxing a “whiter neighborhood” is borderline racism. Taxing a “blacker neighborhood” is full blown racism. It’s not equal. 

[seafoam1 2,934]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The first would be anti-Semitic. The second full blown racism. Wanting to tax whiter neighborhoods is borderline racism, falls in the “maybe” crack. Not the same. 

So if your use of "whiter" was labeled as "blacker", would you still call it the "maybe crack" of racism? 

You don't need to answer that bigot tim. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,279]

He could have said richer neighborhoods but that doesn’t excite the psycho liberal daddy issue girls and the cucks that bow to them out in Brooklyn as much as going after white men does.

[TimHauck 2,736]

19 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

It is racist.  Replace "whiter" with "blacker" and let me know if you feel the same. 

He actually talks about “black and Latino neighborhoods” a couple paragraphs up.  He’s not saying to tax the whiter neighborhoods more than everyone else, he’s saying they’re currently getting a break that the other neighborhoods aren’t getting.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,279]

Now that that’s settled, he’s 100 pct a racist, he also says that “ violence is a social construct” and wants to empty the jails. He said that yesterday. 

[Dizkneelande 1,095]

Dug up some gems from the midwit 

Just 3 short years ago 

AOC is a lowly Congresswoman, one of 435. She will never get near the White House! And you know why that is? Because, unlike the Republicans who nominated Trump and may do so again, Democrats aren’t ####### crazy! 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-thread.768581/post-24115619

You used the phrase “the Democrats” in your earlier post, meaning the party leadership. That’s Clyburn, Pelosi, Shumer, Biden, etc. it’s not, and has never been AOC or Omar, anymore that Marjorie Taylor Greene is the face of the Republicans. 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/do-you-believe-current-democrats-have-a-messaging-problem-4-26-22-23-29-pst.803991/post-23995500
 

Timmy not voting for AOC anytime soon.

She offends me. 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/official-president-joe-biden-thread-best-ever.790013/post-23877008

My favorite 

The Democratic Party is funded by unions and corporations. These two groups will NEVER let socialist types take control of the party. It’s not going to happen. AOC and Bernie and the rest are loud, and growing louder, but they will never have real power. 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/im-trying-to-figure-out-if-i-left-the-republican-party-or-did-they-leave-me.803715/post-23966822

 

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re not. You and others keep insisting that there is no difference, that we already live in Martin Luther King’s dream. We don’t. There is still tons of white privilege. There is still tons of institutional racism. Until we eliminate that, and it will be a long struggle, it’s just not the same. Taxing a “whiter neighborhood” is borderline racism. Taxing a “blacker neighborhood” is full blown racism. It’s not equal. 

Okay do crime.  It's okay to announce we need to patrol black neighborhoods more right?

[TimHauck 2,736]

1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Okay do crime.  It's okay to announce we need to patrol black neighborhoods more right?

He’s not saying to tax whiter neighborhoods more than the rest, liar.

[seafoam1 2,934]

Just now, BrahmaBulls said:

Okay do crime.  It's okay to announce we need to patrol black neighborhoods more right?

NO!! Racist!! Unless they need help in some way other than arresting them for crimes they are committing. 

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Dug up some gems from the midwit 

Just 3 short years ago 

AOC is a lowly Congresswoman, one of 435. She will never get near the White House! And you know why that is? Because, unlike the Republicans who nominated Trump and may do so again, Democrats aren’t ####### crazy! 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-thread.768581/post-24115619

You used the phrase “the Democrats” in your earlier post, meaning the party leadership. That’s Clyburn, Pelosi, Shumer, Biden, etc. it’s not, and has never been AOC or Omar, anymore that Marjorie Taylor Greene is the face of the Republicans. 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/do-you-believe-current-democrats-have-a-messaging-problem-4-26-22-23-29-pst.803991/post-23995500
 

Timmy not voting for AOC anytime soon.

She offends me. 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/official-president-joe-biden-thread-best-ever.790013/post-23877008

My favorite 

The Democratic Party is funded by unions and corporations. These two groups will NEVER let socialist types take control of the party. It’s not going to happen. AOC and Bernie and the rest are loud, and growing louder, but they will never have real power. 

https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/im-trying-to-figure-out-if-i-left-the-republican-party-or-did-they-leave-me.803715/post-23966822

 

All of this was 100% true.  But you guys gave us Trump. Now as a result progressives are starting to rise in the Democratic Party. I don’t much like it but here we are. Blame yourselves. That’s what you get when you vote for a would be fascist and dictator type. 

[seafoam1 2,934]

Just now, TimHauck said:

He’s not saying to tax whiter neighborhoods more than the rest, liar.

What do you and the other Tim whisper to each other in the dark at night when you are together? 

[seafoam1 2,934]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

But you guys gave us Trump. 

100%  Hell yeah!! Winning big. I'm loving this. And you are welcome. 

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Even the Washington Post thinks this guy is a turd:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/26/mamdani-new-york-mayor-socialism/

[Hardcore troubadour 15,279]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

All of this was 100% true.  But you guys gave us Trump. Now as a result progressives are starting to rise in the Democratic Party. I don’t much like it but here we are. Blame yourselves. That’s what you get when you vote for a would be fascist and dictator type. 

Trump is in charge of liberals now. What’s that saying, don’t let your enemy define you? Liberals once loved to say that. 

[jerryskids 6,734]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re wrong on both counts. A government run grocery store, while IMO a terrible idea, is not Communism any more than public education is Communism. It would be closer to Communism if he also made all private grocery stores illegal. Do you see the difference? It’s a huge difference but somehow conservatives never seem to see it. 
 

I have an interview, already linked in this thread, in which he states he recognizes the state of Israel and it’s right to exist, so your second assertion is simply false. 

Regarding Israel, I said as a Jewish state, which he stated he does not believe should exist.

Regarding the grocery stores, his plan is to set up a network of grocery stores which would pay no rent and pay no taxes.  What might happen to the private grocery stores trying to compete with this?

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As Mayor, Zohran will create a network of city-owned grocery stores focused on keeping prices low, not making a profit. Without having to pay rent or property taxes, they will reduce overhead and pass on savings to shoppers. They will buy and sell at wholesale prices, centralize warehousing and distribution, and partner with local neighborhoods on products and sourcing. With New York City already spending millions of dollars to subsidize private grocery store operators (which are not even required to take SNAP/WIC!), we should redirect public money to a real “public option.”

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’d agree with this for the most part but I think it’s fair to call him anti-Israel.  That of course does not make him anti-Semitic

How about standing behind his "globalize the intifada" comment?

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Zohran Mamdani’s opponents paint him as a dangerous radical. The young, socialistic candidate for New York City mayor wishes to dispel that perception—in some ways. Last week, he appeared on a podcast with The Bulwark’s Tim Miller, a former Republican and the sort of moderate Mamdani knows he needs to win over, or at least neutralize, if he is to carry this week’s Democratic primary. As Miller presented a litany of concerns about Mamdani’s plans to freeze stabilized-housing rent, establish city-run groceries, and other offenses against Econ 101, the candidate expressed a willingness to hinge his policies on outcomes and abandon his plans if they failed.

But when Miller asked Mamdani about the pro-Palestine slogan “Globalize the intifada,” the candidate’s pragmatism and intellectual humility evaporated. “To me, ultimately, what I hear in so many is a desperate desire for equality and equal rights in standing up for Palestinian human rights,” he said.

Mamdani may sincerely believe this, as do some of his supporters. But he then delved into the semantics of intifada, citing the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum’s use of the word as the translation of “uprising” in an Arabic version of an article the museum published about the Warsaw Ghetto. This comparison, to a Jewish armed rebellion against the Nazis, hardly dispels concern about the incendiary implications of the slogan. If the intifada is akin to the ghetto uprising, then it is a call for violence. If its theater of operations is global, then it is necessarily directed against civilians. Days before the Democratic primary, when Mamdani appeared to be gaining momentum, the controversy about his comments on Miller’s show dragged the race’s focus back to the Middle East, a subject that Mamdani has not emphasized in his campaign. Yet this debate has largely missed the significance. What makes the slogan so disturbing in an American context is not the intifada bit. It’s the globalize part.

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https://archive.is/Wk1fr

[jerryskids 6,734]

3 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

You two need to go on a date or something. You both slap fight with each other in every thread and it goes on forever. Exchange phone numbers for God's sake.

 

 

https://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/search/?&q="Liberals are so stupid"&author=seafoam1&search_and_or=or

[TimHauck 2,736]

12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Regarding Israel, I said as a Jewish state, which he stated he does not believe should exist.

Regarding the grocery stores, his plan is to set up a network of grocery stores which would pay no rent and pay no taxes.  What might happen to the private grocery stores trying to compete with this?

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

How about standing behind his "globalize the intifada" comment?

https://archive.is/Wk1fr

 

I already posted a video of his answer about “the Jewish state.”  He says everyone that lives there should be equal, what’s wrong with that?

It wasn’t “his comment.” Miller (oddly enough he’s the same guy you think called Matt Walsh a racial slur) asked him what he thought the phrase meant and he answered.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,038]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I would t feel the same. If he used “blacker” it wouldn’t be borderline it would be full out racism. I apply a double standard which I fully believe to be justified.  

If there were no such thing as "double standards", liberals wouldn't have any standards at all. 

Also, your double-standard is, in fact, racist.  Not surprised.  Democrats fought to keep slaves, created the KKK, implemented Jim Crowe and all kinds of nasty racial stuff.

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Regarding Israel, I said as a Jewish state, which he stated he does not believe should exist.

Regarding the grocery stores, his plan is to set up a network of grocery stores which would pay no rent and pay no taxes.  What might happen to the private grocery stores trying to compete with this?

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform

How about standing behind his "globalize the intifada" comment?

https://archive.is/Wk1fr

First off the founders of the modern state of Israel didn’t want a “Jewish” state either in that they were secularists, non-believers. He doesn’t want Israel turned into a religious state and I agree. 

Second, you’re talking about replacing EBT markets that service SNAP people. As I wrote it’s not a good idea IMO. But do you honestly believe that people who can afford to shop at Gelson’s or even Kroger are going to choose some government run poor market? That’s just silly. It’s not Communism. 
 

The Palestinian thing is too complex a subject for this thread. In general he’s too extremist on that issue for my tastes, but again the mayor of New York isn’t going to have a huge impact on the Middle East. 

[Engorgeous George 2,290]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Never mind I found it. He says he wants to  tax “richer and whiter neighborhoods”. 

That’s unfortunate. He never should have said “whiter”; it borders on racism. Just another thing that would cause me not to support this guy in a sane world. 

My point stands that his tax ideas are irrelevant because as mayor he has no power to enact them.  

So if I understand this he will not have the power to raise taxes to pay for the programs he will not be empowered to create.  What then is his platform and what will he do or accomplish.  You like him because he is anti-trump, but NYC is not ruled by Trump.

[jerryskids 6,734]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Link to him saying white? 
And no per my understanding all taxes in the state of New York, including city taxes, have to be approved by the state legislature. I got that from Forbes: 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2025/06/27/will-mamdanis-proposed-millionaire-tax-save-or-sink-new-york-city/

if you have contradictory info please present it. NY isn’t my state so I have to rely on what I read. 

According to Eric Adams, taxes would come from... wait for it... the NY State Assembly where Zohran currently serves.  So why has he not effected this change while he is in a position to do so?  It's a rhetorical question:  he's using is as a dog whistle for his young, simple-minded, upper middle class white audience.   

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

According to Eric Adams, taxes would come from... wait for it... the NY State Assembly where Zohran currently serves.  So why has he not effected this change while he is in a position to do so?  It's a rhetorical question:  he's using is as a dog whistle for his young, simple-minded, upper middle class white audience.   

Well he’s one of many in the legislature. 

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

16 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

So if I understand this he will not have the power to raise taxes to pay for the programs he will not be empowered to create.  What then is his platform and what will he do or accomplish.  You like him because he is anti-trump, but NYC is not ruled by Trump.

You’re right that’s a big reason I like him. I want more public officials who defy Trump. As mayor of NYC he can do a lot to interfere with ICE in particular and that seems like a very good thing to me. 
His platform is that he’ll run NYC as a liberal mayor. The rest of his supposed platform is meaningless because he has no power to enact it. 
 

in truth I don’t particularly care who the mayor of NYC is. It’s a fine city and I enjoy visiting but I don’t live there and never will. I just want more public figures standing up to Trump and I want more elections where the Democrat is chosen, We need to do that until this MAGA sickness is finally defeated. 

[RLLD 4,200]

18 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

According to Eric Adams, taxes would come from... wait for it... the NY State Assembly where Zohran currently serves.  So why has he not effected this change while he is in a position to do so?  It's a rhetorical question:  he's using is as a dog whistle for his young, simple-minded, upper middle class white audience.   

 I suggest we already know who this guy is.  He is the worst possible person to hold power.  We have seen him before in persons such as Pol Pot and others.  Many people have to be harmed before we can look back and people understand just how insipid this guy is, dare I say evil. 

[The Real timschochet 6,659]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

 I suggest we already know who this guy is.  He is the worst possible person to hold power.  We have seen him before in persons such as Pol Pot and others.  Many people have to be harmed before we can look back and people understand just how insipid this guy is, dare I say evil. 

Seriously comparing this dude to Pol Pot…