Minnesota

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Just now, TimHauck said:

Lol c’mon Jerry, you’re better than that.  Well maybe not.

The hack in the house!!! 

[dogcows 1,330]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

OK even if we ignore the screenshots of public info, the fact that 5 of the 10 places were part of Feeding our Future is a huge red flag, and that was uncovered by the liberal local paper.  So I may have actually been low on my estimate on the number of fraudulent places from the video.  But I’d highly doubt it was all of them, and I of course disagree with the people taking this story to mean that all Somalians should be deported.

I’m not gonna waste more time debunking crap that is clearly BS. Engage your brain or don’t. Many people have proven they don’t actually care if it’s true. Somalians are garbage to them. I honestly don’t know how you are missing the obvious signs of racial bias and made-up nonsense from that Twitter thread. But I’m gonna let you figure it out yourself.

To reiterate my position:

If there is fraud, prosecute it. But stop targeting Somalian Americans based on their nationality. The latter is CLEARLY what Nick did, so shame on him.

[Ron_Artest 2,565]

59 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Good start. Now let’s move on to the other 49 states. 

For once you said something correct.  The ppp scam was a trillion dollar giveaway.  Claw all that money back.  Start with my neighbor who stole $140k and then bought a brand new Denali that I run past every day.

[TimHauck 3,489]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

I’m not gonna waste more time debunking crap that is clearly BS. Engage your brain or don’t. Many people have proven they don’t actually care if it’s true. Somalians are garbage to them. I honestly don’t know how you are missing the obvious signs of racial bias and made-up nonsense from that Twitter thread. But I’m gonna let you figure it out yourself.

To reiterate my position:

If there is fraud, prosecute it. But stop targeting Somalian Americans based on their nationality. The latter is CLEARLY what Nick did, so shame on him.

I agree with your last paragraph about Shirley, but the thread I linked is only about one specific place, with a connection to a different place that was already proven to be fraudulent. I don’t think that’s really targeting them for being Somalian.

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4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol c’mon Jerry, you’re better than that.  Well maybe not.

Why would daycares donate millions to politicians?

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3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I’m not gonna waste more time debunking crap that is clearly BS. Engage your brain or don’t. Many people have proven they don’t actually care if it’s true. Somalians are garbage to them. I honestly don’t know how you are missing the obvious signs of racial bias and made-up nonsense from that Twitter thread. But I’m gonna let you figure it out yourself.

To reiterate my position:

If there is fraud, prosecute it. But stop targeting Somalian Americans based on their nationality. The latter is CLEARLY what Nick did, so shame on him.

lol. I bet you were all up in arms he they went after the Italian mafia.

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Why would daycares donate millions to politicians?

You might want to reread @cyclone24’s post.  He didn’t say they donated millions.  The most I’ve seen was like $4k.

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12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Who said that?

Apparently Shirley said that.  But of course the right automatically believes it.

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7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You might want to reread @cyclone24’s post.  He didn’t say they donated millions.  The most I’ve seen was like $4k.

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So they flock to sanctuary cities, they have to be represented in the government, the government then gives them millions to run these fake ass daycare centers and then they donate it back to them. This isn’t even 2+2. They aren’t even trying to hide it.

I guess we can quibble on the meaning of "it" here.  Regardless, I wasn't saying it's true.  I'm merely saying that if the daycares donated the money back to politicians, then that would be an alternative explanation to their apparent brilliance and adapting to US culture.  Not to mention a whole 'nother rabbit hole of corruption.

[dogcows 1,330]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I agree with your last paragraph about Shirley, but the thread I linked is only about one specific place, with a connection to a different place that was already proven to be fraudulent. I don’t think that’s really targeting them for being Somalian.

Did you read the Star Tribune article referenced by that far-right Twitter rage baiter?

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The Minnesota Star Tribune also visited all 10 facilities, and found children inside four of them when invited inside. Six other facilities were either closed or employees did not open their doors. 

A Star Tribune review of state enforcement records and court filings shows that none of the individuals publicly identified as owners or operators of the 10 businesses have ever been charged with fraud or any other felonies. However, seven of the eight facilities with publicly available licensing records have been cited by the state for violations over the past four years, with some cited dozens of times.

Here’s the best part: the line he quoted about Feeding our Future was followed by this line which he decided NOT to include.

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None of the five businesses in Shirley’s video that received funds from Feeding Our Future have been accused of wrongdoing.

Gee, why do you think they left that bit out? I’m trying to give you some hints here to help you spot BS faster next time.

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18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I agree with your last paragraph about Shirley, but the thread I linked is only about one specific place, with a connection to a different place that was already proven to be fraudulent. I don’t think that’s really targeting them for being Somalian.

But Tim, you're giving fuel to us Somali-hating Magatards, so it's best if you just join dogcows in the message that it's all racist lies.  That's it, that's the story.

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I guess we can quibble on the meaning of "it" here. 

Bill Clinton, is that you?

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44 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

OK even if we ignore the screenshots of public info, the fact that 5 of the 10 places were part of Feeding our Future is a huge red flag, and that was uncovered by the liberal local paper.  So I may have actually been low on my estimate on the number of fraudulent places from the video.  But I’d highly doubt it was all of them, and I of course disagree with the people taking this story to mean that all Somalians should be deported.

I want to say that you've been quite, dare I say, "moderate" in this discussion.  Kudos, great start to the new year.   

And yes, it's unfortunate that some extremists will call for things like deporting all Somalis.  And I fear that the word "Somali" will have somewhat of a negative connotation moving forward.

But the likelihood is that there is a deep, systemic fraud apparatus within the American Somali community in Minnesota and possibly other states.  All federal funding to Somali-affiliated daycares should be halted until full audits by federal resources can be completed.  Low-intelligence race-baiters will call this racism, but it isn't.  There is a mafia-esque crime mechanism at play here.  It's tribal, like the mafia, otherwise it couldn't be pulled off on such a grand scale. 

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15 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I guess we can quibble on the meaning of "it" here.  Regardless, I wasn't saying it's true.  I'm merely saying that if the daycares donated the money back to politicians, then that would be an alternative explanation to their apparent brilliance and adapting to US culture.  Not to mention a whole 'nother rabbit hole of corruption.

Actually you got me, I missed the second part, I thought he was just saying the daycares were getting millions from the government and not the other way around.  But like I said, I’ve only seen evidence of a few thousand in donations, and we know for sure a lot of people are looking.

I suppose it’s possible there is a George Santos (sentence commuted by Trump, btw) or two willing to engage in the fraud (like maybe the one in Washington State getting donations from daycares in Minnesota), but you phrasing it like there is grand conspiracy among Dems is laughable.  (In b4 someone replies with a “it’s not widespread” quip)

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23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Actually you got me, I missed the second part, I thought he was just saying the daycares were getting millions from the government and not the other way around.  But like I said, I’ve only seen evidence of a few thousand in donations, and we know for sure a lot of people are looking.

I suppose it’s possible there is a George Santos (sentence commuted by Trump, btw) or two willing to engage in the fraud (like maybe the one in Washington State getting donations from daycares in Minnesota), but you phrasing it like there is grand conspiracy among Dems is laughable.  (In b4 someone replies with a “it’s not widespread” quip)

I didn't say it was a grand conspiracy.  I don't think the DNC is coordinating anything or whatever.  I merely said that if there are substantial donations, that might implicate politicians getting those donations.

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51 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Did you read the Star Tribune article referenced by that far-right Twitter rage baiter?

Here’s the best part: the line he quoted about Feeding our Future was followed by this line which he decided NOT to include.

Gee, why do you think they left that bit out? I’m trying to give you some hints here to help you spot BS faster next time.

I didn’t read it initially but did later.   That line is clearly legalese so they don’t get sued.  Btw the author of the article reposted that tweet and made a tweet of her own mentioning Feeding our Future without that disclaimer.

At this point, people showing up and asking where the kids are isn’t going to prove anything either way.  For all we know the places with kids in them now could just be family members.  IMO what the state needs to do is compile a list of the kids at every center and cross reference it with other centers and medical records to confirm that 1) the kids they say are caring for actually exist, and 2) multiple daycares aren’t claiming to be caring for the same kid - that was an accusation I’ve seen made against the Learing Center based on one of their 2022 violations

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12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I want to say that you've been quite, dare I say, "moderate" in this discussion.  Kudos, great start to the new year.   

And yes, it's unfortunate that some extremists will call for things like deporting all Somalis.  And I fear that the word "Somali" will have somewhat of a negative connotation moving forward.

But the likelihood is that there is a deep, systemic fraud apparatus within the American Somali community in Minnesota and possibly other states.  All federal funding to Somali-affiliated daycares should be halted until full audits by federal resources can be completed.  Low-intelligence race-baiters will call this racism, but it isn't.  There is a mafia-esque crime mechanism at play here.  It's tribal, like the mafia, otherwise it couldn't be pulled off on such a grand scale. 

Anybody who thinks it’s racist to block money to daycares based solely on their owners’ national origin is a “low-intelligence race-baiter?”  

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This is just speculation but what could also be happening at some places is if the owners/employees at the daycares have multiple children, their enrollment could be basically filled entirely by family members and thus they are getting paid by the state to watch their own kids.  Likely not illegal but probably a loophole worth closing if true.

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15 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

People don’t care anymore about your feelings or insults. Muslims ruin every country they invade. 

Missed this. Great post 

[TimHauck 3,489]

15 hours ago, HellToupee said:

What the hell is happening in Minnesota 

 

“Fraudulent Somali daycares aside, 6% of Minnesota’s population is committing 62% of their violent crime.“

https://x.com/amiriking/status/2006559772116459597?s=61&t=oX9G006TUZ9alBtC5c4uMQ

 

15 hours ago, TimHauck said:

lol is this saying that every company that got PPP loans or government grant is a scam?  Many don’t even appear to be Somali.  This site looks like they took over the domain from “c19ivm.org”

lol people are now claiming these are political donation amounts, and Elon fell for it

 

 

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18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I didn’t read it initially but did later.   That line is clearly legalese so they don’t get sued.  Btw the author of the article reposted that tweet and made a tweet of her own mentioning Feeding our Future without that disclaimer.

At this point, people showing up and asking where the kids are isn’t going to prove anything either way.  For all we know the places with kids in them now could just be family members.  IMO what the state needs to do is compile a list of the kids at every center and cross reference it with other centers and medical records to confirm that 1) the kids they say are caring for actually exist, and 2) multiple daycares aren’t claiming to be caring for the same kid - that was an accusation I’ve seen made of against the Learing Center based on one of their 2022 violations

This is the same braindead reasoning of the Trump administration. Oh well, Nicky didn’t actually find any fraud, but maybe there is some. Therefore, we need to stop all daycare money from going to the entire state. 

Seriously. Do you not see the problem here? A crazy right-wing influencer does a “story” that turns out to be fake, and we have to shut down daycare in the entire state of Minnesota?!

Wake up. There is more fraud being perpetrated by healthcare executives every  day than the entire Feeding our Future scandal combined.

The rich steal from us all every day. And instead of finding and punishing them, they get the rubes mad at a small ethnic group in Minnesota. America’s law enforcement apparatus is going to drop everything and maybe find a few cases of fraud in Minnesota. Meanwhile the biggest fraudsters are laughing their arses off with their newly signed pardons. 

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12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This is just speculation but what could also be happening at some places is if the owners/employees at the daycares have multiple children, their enrollment could be basically filled entirely by family members and thus they are getting paid by the state to watch their own kids.  Likely not illegal but probably a loophole worth closing if true.

So we’ve moved on from “there’s fraud” to “there might be fraud” to “I made up some idea of fraud they could try”

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2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

So we’ve moved on from “there’s fraud” to “there might be fraud” to “I made up some idea of fraud they could try”

No I specifically said that scenario is not fraud.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,111]

2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

So we’ve moved on from “there’s fraud” to “there might be fraud” to “I made up some idea of fraud they could try”

Who moved on from there’s fraud? 

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

No I specifically said that scenario is not fraud.

Cool so this Nick and Dave story went from fraud to maybe fraud to not fraud.

I think we can wrap this up now.

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4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Cool so this Nick and Dave story went from fraud to maybe fraud to not fraud.

I think we can wrap this up now.

I’ve said from the beginning his video didn’t prove fraud.  But that doesn’t mean it’s not there, it needs to be investigated further and looking closer the Learing Center in particular would be my prime suspect.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,111]

9 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Cool so this Nick and Dave story went from fraud to maybe fraud to not fraud.

I think we can wrap this up now.

So there was no fraud? It was a hoax? 

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’ve said from the beginning his video didn’t prove fraud.  But that doesn’t mean it’s not there, it needs to be investigated further and looking closer the Learing Center in particular would be my prime suspect.

Why does it need to be investigated further? It’s beyond obvious he just picked these places because the owners are Somalians. There are much bigger fraudsters that I bet we have real probable cause to investigate.

Can Nick please do some gotchas at white healthcare CEO’s houses so we can stop all payments to them?

Nicky’s video is NOT a valid reason to investigate anything. It’s crazy that anybody thinks it is.

Aimee bock is white. Why don’t we investigate every white daycare owner in the state? Or the country? Or the world?

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13 minutes ago, dogcows said:

This is the same braindead reasoning of the Trump administration. Oh well, Nicky didn’t actually find any fraud, but maybe there is some. Therefore, we need to stop all daycare money from going to the entire state. 

Seriously. Do you not see the problem here? A crazy right-wing influencer does a “story” that turns out to be fake, and we have to shut down daycare in the entire state of Minnesota?!

Wake up. There is more fraud being perpetrated by healthcare executives every  day than the entire Feeding our Future scandal combined.

The rich steal from us all every day. And instead of finding and punishing them, they get the rubes mad at a small ethnic group in Minnesota. America’s law enforcement apparatus is going to drop everything and maybe find a few cases of fraud in Minnesota. Meanwhile the biggest fraudsters are laughing their arses off with their newly signed pardons. 

Yes I agree we should be looking for other fraud too and pausing all funding is dumb.

But it’s not like Shirley created the story out of thin air, local media had reported on it previously and some places had been investigated previously.  Feeding our Future has been called the largest case of pandemic fraud, and of course it was the Biden admin that did most of the prosecution of it.

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Imagine being dumb enough to fall for this obvious damage control….

[dogcows 1,330]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Yes I agree we should be looking for other fraud too and pausing all funding is dumb.

But it’s not like Shirley created the story out of thin air, local media had reported on it previously and some places had been investigated previously.  Feeding our Future has been called the largest case of pandemic fraud, and of course it was the Biden admin that did most of the prosecution of it.

As I said 50 pages back in this thread. He brought out the old Feeding our Future story and pretended it was still ongoing… with zero evidence. And all his “reporting” turned up NOTHING.

Those perps were already prosecuted. He just picked other Somalians based solely on their national origin.

[HellToupee 2,311]

These stupid bastards

 

Credible Minnesota whistleblowers are saying Tim Walz's 20-week PAID LEAVE program will be viciously scammed by Somalis and migrants

They can manually designate ANYONE as who they "cared" for.

"NO GUARDRAILS."

- Up to $1,423 PER WEEK
- Up to 20 weeks paid time off
- Lawmakers say MASSIVE fraud risks
- Tim Walz doesn't care

"I can designate my uncle living in Florida, go on vacation, and it's up to your EMPLOYER to investigate! It's going to be RIDDEN with fraud...the honor system is not the best way to distribute all this money."

DEFUND MINNESOTA.

[Ron_Artest 2,565]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I want to say that you've been quite, dare I say, "moderate" in this discussion.  Kudos, great start to the new year.   

And yes, it's unfortunate that some extremists will call for things like deporting all Somalis.  And I fear that the word "Somali" will have somewhat of a negative connotation moving forward.

But the likelihood is that there is a deep, systemic fraud apparatus within the American Somali community in Minnesota and possibly other states.  All federal funding to Somali-affiliated daycares should be halted until full audits by federal resources can be completed.  Low-intelligence race-baiters will call this racism, but it isn't.  There is a mafia-esque crime mechanism at play here.  It's tribal, like the mafia, otherwise it couldn't be pulled off on such a grand scale. 

Impressive that you display such racism and hatred while simultaneously claiming that you're not racist.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,111]

It will be interesting to see a state in our country effectively go out of business. NYC was told to drop dead in the 70’s by Ford. That forced them to get their act together. Minnesota is going to need the same type of tough love. 

[HellToupee 2,311]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Impressive that you display such racism and hatred while simultaneously claiming that you're not racist.

Where is the racism in his post??

[avoiding injuries 1,665]

18 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Impressive that you display such racism and hatred while simultaneously claiming that you're not racist.

You still don’t get it. Nobody gives a fock anymore if you call them racist. This isn’t 2015 and fatigue has exhausted your insults. Fock your feelings.