Israel Gaza thread- is the peace agreement still in effect?

[Maximum Overkill 2,404]

5 hours ago, TimHauck said:

State Department claims ignorance of this

 

 

 

Enough of the fake news already. ZERO PROOF 

[TimHauck 3,290]

Finally this is getting some press in the US:

 

 

 

[SaintsInDome2006 611]

17 hours ago, TimHauck said:

State Department claims ignorance of this

 

 

 

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In a video shared with ABC News, Nathaniel and a Palestinian-American man he was traveling with, Yaser Alkem, are seen stopping at a checkpoint with what appear to be two Israeli military vehicles.

Two minutes later, the journalist walked up to the soldiers, who questioned him.

"I am an American, I am visiting," Nathaniel can be heard saying in the video. "We just need help getting out because the settlers over there are blocking us. This is the only other way -- just back to Turmus’ayya, back to the village. We just want to go home."

The soldiers then asked him to retrieve his passport from the car, the video shows.

"They told us to park the car and wait with them until the settlers were gone, so they would secure our presence," Alkem told ABC News. "They said they would make sure the settlers were gone before letting us through. We followed their directions."

However, the IDF troops did not protect the farmers, according to Nathaniel and Alkem, who captured the incident on video. Video shows the group being chased by more than 20 masked men whom witnesses say were Israeli settlers. In the videos, IDF troops were not seen intervening as the attack escalated rapidly.

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Turmus’ayya is home to a large number of Palestinian-American citizens, including Yaser Alkem, who returned to live there full-time after 35 years in California.

"We have no one to turn to other than our home country, which is the United States of America, and it has so far let us down," Alkem told ABC News. "We’ve asked for assistance. We’ve asked for protection. We’ve asked for equal treatment."<<
 

- The backstory to this is apparently (ahem) Ambassador Mike Huckabee (noted Fox host & base player) hasn’t been taking phone calls from Americans seeking assistance on attacks. This has included residents & at least one reporter. So here a Palestinian woman was abused, nearly killed, hospitalized & the embassy who is informed of it by the reporter says they’re not aware of it.

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

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Turmus’ayya is home to a large number of Palestinian-American citizens, including Yaser Alkem, who returned to live there full-time after 35 years in California.

"We have no one to turn to other than our home country, which is the United States of America, and it has so far let us down," Alkem told ABC News. "We’ve asked for assistance. We’ve asked for protection. We’ve asked for equal treatment."<<
 

- The backstory to this is apparently (ahem) Ambassador Mike Huckabee (noted Fox host & base player) hasn’t been taking phone calls from Americans seeking assistance on attacks. This has included residents & at least one reporter. So here an American woman was abused, nearly killed, hospitalized & the embassy who is informed of it by the reporter says they’re not aware of it.

The woman isn’t American, the guy recording is.  So I guess they carefully worded their statement to say they’re not aware of “an American” being wounded, as he apparently was not.

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>>In an interview with TIME on Thursday, President Donald Trump said Israel would lose U.S. support if it annexed the West Bank.<<

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16 hours ago, Gepetto said:

His video doesn't show the IDF doing what he accuses them of doing. Why is that?

What are you referring to exactly?  Did you watch the 8+ minute video?  It includes audio of him talking to a soldier saying they can go through and replying yes after he asks “you’re going to move them?”

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8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

>>In an interview with TIME on Thursday, President Donald Trump said Israel would lose U.S. support if it annexed the West Bank.<<

They’ll just do it unofficially like they have been 

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4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

What are you referring to exactly?  Did you watch the 8+ minute video?  It includes audio of him talking to a soldier saying they can go through and replying yes after he asks “you’re going to move them?”

He accuses the IDF of setting them up to allow them to be ambushed by Israelis. He claims the IDF pointed them a certain direction and then quickly left them. There's no proof that IDF set them up for an attack that I saw. I watched the entire video.

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2 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

He accuses the IDF of setting them up to allow them to be ambushed by Israelis. He claims the IDF pointed them a certain direction and then quickly left them. There's no proof that IDF set them up for an attack that I saw. I watched the entire video.

Like I said, there is audio of him asking them if they are going to move the settlers, they replied yes, but they clearly did not.  I guess you can argue it’s not 100% confirmed it was a setup as opposed to just them not giving an f.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Like I said, there is audio of him asking them if they are going to move the settlers, they replied yes, but they clearly did not.  I guess you can argue it’s not 100% confirmed it was a setup as opposed to just them not giving an f.

Like I said, they didn't set him up to be attacked like he accuses them of. Also, he's a pro-Palestinian press guy from the USA claiming he's checking the grapes. In reality he's there to find a gotcha against Israel and the IDF, similar to what you do here. Now he's crying the Israeli govt. and the US govt. aren't doing enough and he says next time he will have to actually get injured. I'm done talking about this now.

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7 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Like I said, they didn't set him up to be attacked like he accuses them of. 

They didn’t, or you don’t think there’s proof they did?  Those are two very different things, so thanks for showing your own bias as well.

[Gepetto 1,448]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

They didn’t, or you don’t think there’s proof they did?  Those are two very different things, so thanks for showing your own bias as well.

He's out there recording. I don't see it in the video is what I'm saying. You'd think he would have recorded that if it happens exactly how he claims it did. I even think it's possible he believes the IDF set him up, but they didn't. It's possible he's correct, yes, but he doesn't provide video evidence backing it up is all I'm saying.

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6 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

He's out there recording. I don't see it in the video is what I'm saying. You'd think he would have recorded that if it happens exactly how he claims it did. I even think it's possible he believes the IDF set him up, but they didn't. It's possible he's correct, yes, but he doesn't provide video evidence backing it up is all I'm saying.

It’s not definitive, but there is some evidence as again, there is recording of him asking the soldiers “you’re going to move them?” They say “yes,” but clearly they did not.

[seafoam1 3,401]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It’s not definitive, but there is some evidence as again, there is recording of him asking the soldiers “you’re going to move them?” They say “yes,” but clearly they did not.

Are you pretending to be this stupid? Or are you really a typical liberal dumbass for real. Because you are out-stupiding the stupid at this point. 

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47 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

He's out there recording. I don't see it in the video is what I'm saying. You'd think he would have recorded that if it happens exactly how he claims it did. I even think it's possible he believes the IDF set him up, but they didn't. It's possible he's correct, yes, but he doesn't provide video evidence backing it up is all I'm saying.

I haven't read this thread in a while so I thought I'd catch up.  I learned that Tim thinks Israel has some magical anti-video technology which prevents the IDF from being video recorded.

I also learned that Tim has flanked from Gaza to Judea and Samaria for his quixotic chase of IDF war crimes.  I prefer to call the West Bank "Judea and Samaria," its original name, because it reminds people of the origin of the word "Judaism," since Jews were there centuries or millenia before Islam existed.

Also, keep in mind that if there is any chance that IDF did something bad, no matter how flimsy, Tim will believe it without question.  He has much higher standards for thinking ill of good guys like wife-beating illegal-alien-smuggling illegall aliens from El Salvador.   

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2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I haven't read this thread in a while so I thought I'd catch up.  I learned that Tim thinks Israel has some magical anti-video technology which prevents the IDF from being video recorded.

I also learned that Tim has flanked from Gaza to Judea and Samaria for his quixotic chase of IDF war crimes.  I prefer to call the West Bank "Judea and Samaria," its original name, because it reminds people of the origin of the word "Judaism," since Jews were there centuries or millenia before Islam existed.

Also, keep in mind that if there is any chance that IDF did something bad, no matter how flimsy, Tim will believe it without question.  He has much higher standards for thinking ill of good guys like wife-beating illegal-alien-smuggling illegall aliens from El Salvador.   

The incident in question was recorded on audio, and there is a later full video of them “apologizing” about it.  It definitely happened, the only debate is whether or not it was “a setup.”  

I noticed you didn’t comment about the woman that was beaten with a club.  Noted.

I have made previous comments about the West Bank as well.  It’s not usually the IDF committing the crimes there, but the government does often enable the terrorizing that the Settlers do to the residents there.  The IDF would be involved though in crimes like keeping an American citizen child imprisoned for 8 months without charge, only accused of throwing rocks.

That’s nice that you like to rewrite history and imply that the West Bank should belong to Israel, but there were these things called the Oslo Accords that determined that most of it does not.

 

 

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Hamas says it will delay hostage handover, after Israeli prime minister orders ‘immediate, powerful’ military strikes in Gaza

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday ordered the Israeli military to carry out “immediate, powerful” strikes in Gaza.

“At the conclusion of the security consultations, Prime Minister Netanyahu instructed the military echelon to carry out immediate, powerful strikes in the Gaza Strip,” the office of the Prime Minister said in a short statement.

Earlier today, Netanyahu’s office said that Hamas is in “clear violation” of the Gaza ceasefire agreement after returning remains to Israel that did not belong to any of the 13 hostages still unaccounted for in the enclave.

The armed wing of Hamas, the Al-Qassam Brigades, subsequently announced it would postpone the handover of a hostage’s body that was recovered in southern Gaza on Tuesday due to Israel’s “violations.”

An Israeli military official told CNN that Hamas had attacked Israel Defense Forces (IDF) troops positioned in an area under Israeli control east of the yellow line – the line marking the point of Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip under the US-brokered ceasefire deal.

 

 

[Strike 5,985]

Hey @TimHauck, did you see what your heroes got caught doing?

https://x.com/IDF/status/1983179859951034576

[TimHauck 3,290]

7 hours ago, Strike said:

Hey @TimHauck, did you see what your heroes got caught doing?

https://x.com/IDF/status/1983179859951034576

Hamas is bad.

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28 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Hams is bad.

Ham is delicious, but your heros are evil. No matter if they are here in the US or somewhere else in the world. 

You are such a failure in life timhack. Your parents should be punished heavily. 

 

[TimHauck 3,290]

X appears to have tweaked the algorithm to make pro-Israel content more prominent.  I’m seeing random posts from people I’ve never heard of with less than 10k followers just saying stuff like “pray for the rabbis in Jamaica” which seems very random 

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

X appears to have tweaked the algorithm to make pro-Israel content more prominent.  I’m seeing random posts from people I’ve never heard of with less than 10k followers just saying stuff like “pray for the rabbis in Jamaica” which seems very random 

Like all the random crap you post from Twitter from people we've never heard of?

[The Real timschochet 7,382]

After the Israeli strikes yesterday, which killed 104, Israel now says the ceasefire is back in place: 

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-west-bank-hamas-gaza-445eea84db9c19600b9ab92786b7fb7c

Apparently Israel can simply choose to accept or ignore the agreement whenever it wants. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

After the Israeli strikes yesterday, which killed 104, Israel now says the ceasefire is back in place: 

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-west-bank-hamas-gaza-445eea84db9c19600b9ab92786b7fb7c

Apparently Israel can simply choose to accept or ignore the agreement whenever it wants. 

Hamas broke the agreement. Israel responded and is now giving them the opportunity to get back on track.  HTH 

No comment on Hamas getting caught staging the "finding" of a body?

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6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Hamas broke the agreement. Israel responded and is now giving them the opportunity to get back on track.  HTH 

No comment on Hamas getting caught staging the "finding" of a body?

You continue to make the assumption that I place Israel and Hamas on equal moral levels. 

Hamas is evil. I rarely comment on them except to wish they would be eradicated. I fully expect them to do bad things and they rarely fail to do them.

The Israelis are the good guys. Of late they’re the good guys doing some awful things. That’s why I criticize them. They’re worth criticizing because I know they can behave better. In this case I don’t believe Hamas’ actions, evil and awful as they were, justify Israel breaking the ceasefire. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

You continue to make the assumption that I place Israel and Hamas on equal moral levels. 

Hamas is evil. I rarely comment on them except to wish they would be eradicated. I fully expect them to do bad things and they rarely fail to do them.

The Israelis are the good guys. Of late they’re the good guys doing some awful things. That’s why I criticize them. They’re worth criticizing because I know they can behave better. In this case I don’t believe Hamas’ actions, evil and awful as they were, justify Israel breaking the ceasefire. 

No, you want Israel to let the bully beat them up despite being the bigger, stronger entity.  They don't have to.  A poll came out yesterday that shows that 2 years after 10/7 a majority of Palestinians STILL think that attack was the right thing to do.  Fock them.  They're lucky Israel didn't simply remove them from the planet.  Your continued criticism of Israel is disgusting.  They've held back and given Hamas every opportunity to end this thing.

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17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

You continue to make the assumption that I place Israel and Hamas on equal moral levels. 

Hamas is evil. I rarely comment on them except to wish they would be eradicated. I fully expect them to do bad things and they rarely fail to do them.

The Israelis are the good guys. Of late they’re the good guys doing some awful things. That’s why I criticize them. They’re worth criticizing because I know they can behave better. In this case I don’t believe Hamas’ actions, evil and awful as they were, justify Israel breaking the ceasefire. 

Good guys being good guys in your eyes led to billions of dollars of UNRWA-syphoned "aid" being used to build terror tunnels under hospitals, schools, and mosques.

Those savages only understand one thing - strength.  And by "savages" I mean both Hamas and Palestinian "civilians," although the line is often quite blurred.  There is a reason that time and again the Palestinians elect strong terror groups into power.  It would 100% happen again, if they are allowed to vote.

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3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

X appears to have tweaked the algorithm to make pro-Israel content more prominent.  I’m seeing random posts from people I’ve never heard of with less than 10k followers just saying stuff like “pray for the rabbis in Jamaica” which seems very random 

Your alter egos maybe.

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1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Good guys being good guys in your eyes led to billions of dollars of UNRWA-syphoned "aid" being used to build terror tunnels under hospitals, schools, and mosques.

Those savages only understand one thing - strength.  And by "savages" I mean both Hamas and Palestinian "civilians," although the line is often quite blurred.  There is a reason that time and again the Palestinians elect strong terror groups into power.  It would 100% happen again, if they are allowed to vote.

You have a weird definition of “time and again” considering Hamas was last elected in 2006.

[Ron_Artest 2,154]

PEACE 2025!@#$%

[Gepetto 1,448]

37 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

After the Israeli strikes yesterday, which killed 104, Israel now says the ceasefire is back in place: 

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-west-bank-hamas-gaza-445eea84db9c19600b9ab92786b7fb7c

Apparently Israel can simply choose to accept or ignore the agreement whenever it wants. 

Peace through strength. It was a response to Hamas breaking the deal. If Netanyahu thought like you do, there would be many more October 7s.

[Sean Mooney 2,045]

Well that peace deal was a fun 7-10 days.

 

 

[jerryskids 7,055]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You have a weird definition of “time and again” considering Hamas was last elected in 2006.

I'm talking prior.

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The first legislative and presidential elections were held in 1996; the first local elections in January–May 2005. Previous (failed) Legislative Council elections were held in 1923 under the British Mandate, and previous municipal elections were held in 1972 and 1976, organized by the Israeli government.^[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Palestine

In 1996 they elected Fatah/PLO, which had been a terrorist organization but arguably wasn't quite that bad in 1996.

But your point is valid:  mostly they didn't have elections because for their entire existence they were warring bands of tribes which fought each other, and as such never had a country.  It was only the formation of Israel which allowed powerful groups to focus the Palestinians' war energy on a common enemy.   

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

Like all the random crap you post from Twitter from people we've never heard of?

Kinda, although I’ve heard of most of the people I post stuff from (and if I don’t it’s typically because I searched a specific term) Here is an example of what I’m getting, although I guess now I am telling the algorithm to give me more since I clicked on it:

 

[supermike80 2,070]

Im surprised anyone over the age of 25 actually thought there would be peace between these entities

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1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Im surprised anyone over the age of 25 actually thought there would be peace between these entities

Eh.  I was just glad they got the remaining live hostages out.

[TimHauck 3,290]

4 hours ago, Strike said:

Like all the random crap you post from Twitter from people we've never heard of?

Another example.  Jerryskids logic right here:

 

[thegeneral 3,555]

8 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Im surprised anyone over the age of 25 actually thought there would be peace between these entities

Most obvious thing ever sadly.

[seafoam1 3,401]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Kinda, although I’ve heard of most of the people I post stuff from (and if I don’t it’s typically because I searched a specific term) Here is an example of what I’m getting, although I guess now I am telling the algorithm to give me more since I clicked on it:

 

Not dahlia Kurtz!! 

[TimHauck 3,290]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Not dahlia Kurtz!! 

Yeah my point is I don’t want to see her stuff either