Gerrymandering

[Ron_Artest 1,575]

Republicans gerrymandering Texas to get more house seats, Democrats in California threatening to do the same in retaliation.

It's all so corrupt.  Drain the swamp.

Texas Republicans Unveil Gerrymandered House Map, Trying to Please Trump - The New York Times https://share.google/B5LzM8OVMfVXKrJCF

[TBayXXXVII 2,553]

No condemnation for when Maryland and Illinois did it?  Weird.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

Looking up. This along with the good work the democrats are doing, Marxist Muslim mayor, calling people Nazis, and Jazzy Crockett running her mouth  should result in a red wave.  

[TimHauck 2,908]

8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

No condemnation for when Maryland and Illinois did it?  Weird.

He literally just condemned California…

[Cdub100 3,930]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He literally just condemned California…

My God you people are so slimy. He did not "literally just condemned California" he said they are threatening to do the same. 

As if democrats don't also participate in gerrymandering. 

[Ron_Artest 1,575]

3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

My God you people are so slimy. He did not "literally just condemned California" he said they are threatening to do the same. 

As if democrats don't also participate in gerrymandering. 

I said it's all so corrupt.  Do you understand what "all" means?

[TimHauck 2,908]

11 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

My God you people are so slimy. He did not "literally just condemned California" he said they are threatening to do the same. 

As if democrats don't also participate in gerrymandering. 

Yes, I would consider his post as “condemning” it.

HTH.

[Ron_Artest 1,575]

For the smooth brains up in here, I CONDEMN on the most strongest way possible BOTH Democrats AND Republicans for engaging in gerrymandering.  Are we clear?

[patweisers44 848]

I dont agree with @Ron_Artest much politically, but 100% with him here. I thought OP was clear contempt for both sides doing this.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

I agree with Gutterboy as well here. I should hope that the democrats will do the right thing here, because they’re so gosh darn good! 

[Fnord 2,293]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Republicans gerrymandering Texas to get more house seats, Democrats in California threatening to do the same in retaliation.

It's all so corrupt.  Drain the swamp.

Texas Republicans Unveil Gerrymandered House Map, Trying to Please Trump - The New York Times https://share.google/B5LzM8OVMfVXKrJCF

Not only did the TX republicans have this thing ready to go, they made it a priority over aid for the flood victims in hill country, whom they have yet to lift a finger for legislatively.

The Dems saying they're going to do it in retaliation can fock right off too. CA, MA, NY talking about it. IL is too, but they're already so gerrymandered for Dems they aren't sure if they can stretch it any further. Just another example of the Republicans going off the rails completely while the Dems navel gaze and fret and remind us how ineffectual and stunted they are.

There should be independent, non-partisan commissions federally mandated to draw districts that make geographic sense in every state. 

[Cdub100 3,930]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I said it's all so corrupt.  Do you understand what "all" means?

Again you said Republicans gerrymandered Texas because of that California is threatening to do the same. 

You prase it as if Republicans are the only ones doing and because of that Democrats will start doing it.

You got busted and called out for your deceptivness. Both sides do it so I don't blame you for that. You can be man enough to own up to it though.

[Ron_Artest 1,575]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Again you said Republicans gerrymandered Texas because of that California is threatening to do the same. 

You prase it as if Republicans are the only ones doing and because of that Democrats will start doing it.

You got busted and called out for your deceptivness. Both sides do it so I don't blame you for that. You can be man enough to own up to it though.

This is a direct result of your inability to understand the English language.  I even clarified with another post for you.

You can be man enough to own up to it your own confusion.

[Cdub100 3,930]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

This is a direct result of your inability to understand the English language.  I even clarified with another post for you.

You can be man enough to own up to it your own confusion.

Yeah you clarified after getting busted. 

Your fake news tactics aren't going to work

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

I would only hope the democrats uphold the values and virtues they espouse. 

[Ron_Artest 1,575]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I would only hope the democrats uphold the values and virtues they espouse. 

You only hope that so that Republicans can get an advantage

[Nomad99 754]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

This is a direct result of your inability to understand the English language.  I even clarified with another post for you.

You can be man enough to own up to it your own confusion.

The language was EASILY understandable = Republicans are doing this, so Democrats are thinking about doing it. The INTENT was even more clear= Lets not infer that Democrats have already done this or my post will be garbage.

"I even clarified it"..... no....no you did not, you went back to sweep the mud you left on the floor & erase your tracks.

Like the cuck you are, you double down on the "What? I'm innocent!"

Rinse, wash, repeat. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

12 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You only hope that so that Republicans can get an advantage

Yeah but maybe they won’t be so full of shitt? Like you? 

[Ron_Artest 1,575]

9 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

The language was EASILY understandable = Republicans are doing this, so Democrats are thinking about doing it. The INTENT was even more clear= Lets not infer that Democrats have already done this or my post will be garbage.

"I even clarified it"..... no....no you did not, you went back to sweep the mud you left on the floor & erase your tracks.

Like the cuck you are, you double down on the "What? I'm innocent!"

Rinse, wash, repeat. 

Another guy that doesn't understand "It's all so corrupt"

How about this, are you or @Cdub100 willing to admit that what the republicans are doing is corrupt?  I'm willing to admit the democrats gerrymandering is corrupt.  You're accusing me on not admitting that but can you do the same or are you a hypocrite?

[Ron_Artest 1,575]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah but maybe they won’t be so full of shitt? Like you? 

So you want the Republicans to gerrymander but you don't want the democrats to do it?  And I'm full of sh1t?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

I’ll get upset with this when democrats quit using illegals for congressional seats 

[Fnord 2,293]

2 hours ago, patweisers44 said:

I dont agree with @Ron_Artest much politically, but 100% with him here. I thought OP was clear contempt for both sides doing this.  

Agreed. Very clear. Seems to me as though some of the Trumplicans here are just piling on Gutter to avoid saying something negative about dear leader.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

OP thinks this is corrupt. Probably also believes in “tax loopholes”

[Hardcore troubadour 15,508]

I remember a US president saying elections have consequences when he went around congress to get what he wanted. Way back in 2009 

[Fnord 2,293]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

OP thinks this is corrupt. Probably also believes in “tax loopholes”

You DON'T think it's corrupt? You live in Cali, right? You're cool with the Dems there gerrymandering Republican votes out of existence, like the GOP is doing in TX?

We all think of these two states as bastions of red or blue, but believe it or not there are a lot of Republicans in CA, as well as libs in TX. Those votes are actively being silenced in TX, and Newsom is ready to do the same.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

Each state has their own redistricting laws, I have no problem when them following the laws. 

Unfortunately, neither TX or CA are following their own laws. 

My fear is that Gavin will use his ol' Executive Order power and do this. Talk about King behavior. He doesn't care about us one bit. He just wants to win. 

[Fnord 2,293]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Each state has their own redistricting laws, I have no problem when them following the laws. 

Unfortunately, neither TX or CA are following their own laws. 

My fear is that Gavin will use his ol' Executive Order power and do this. Talk about King behavior. He doesn't care about us one bit. He just wants to win. 

I don't think you're correct here. CA, by law, has an independent commission draw up its congressional boundaries. Newsom wants to do away with that so he can gerrymander away. TX is different. The state legislature there draws its own map, so what they're doing would be in violation of the Voting Rights Act, but not TX state law.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

Just now, Fnord said:

I don't think you're correct here. CA, by law, has an independent commission draw up its congressional boundaries. Newsom wants to do away with that so he can gerrymander away. TX is different. The state legislature there draws its own map, so what they're doing would be in violation of the Voting Rights Act, but not TX state law.

Meh, semantics.

Gavin wants to do away with the laws around the CA commissions because he knows that it won't redraw the way he thinks it will, he wants to draw it himself to favor a political party; this is against the California Constitution.  He doesn't even want us to VOTE on anything about redistricting, he just wants to do it and say Fock Californians. 

They are both breaking their own rules. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

33 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You DON'T think it's corrupt? You live in Cali, right? You're cool with the Dems there gerrymandering Republican votes out of existence, like the GOP is doing in TX?

We all think of these two states as bastions of red or blue, but believe it or not there are a lot of Republicans in CA, as well as libs in TX. Those votes are actively being silenced in TX, and Newsom is ready to do the same.

nope I believe in definitions, I think its corrupt to count illegals for congressional seats

but Gerrymandering is playing within the system that is developed

those voices have already been silenced in California, its not like that would be something new.

I am all for beating democrats at their own game

 

[Alias Detective 1,408]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

He literally just condemned California…

HUH?

[TBayXXXVII 2,553]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

He literally just condemned California…

I assumed that was sarcasm, because he didn't think there was a swamp when Trump said he wanted to drain it back in 2015.  He laughed at the idea.

[Fnord 2,293]

16 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

nope I believe in definitions, I think its corrupt to count illegals for congressional seats

 

The new TX boundaries are literally counting on their new Latino friends to carry the GOP to wins in those districts. Two way street. Thinking that you're "beating Democrats at their own game" does not hold up to scrutiny.

States severely gerrymandered to favor Democrats: Illinois, Oregon, Nevada, New Mexico

States severely gerrymandered to favor Republicans: Utah, Texas, Kansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, both Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin

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[Ron_Artest 1,575]

13 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I assumed that was sarcasm, because he didn't think there was a swamp when Trump said he wanted to drain it back in 2015.  He laughed at the idea.

bruh, I voted for Trump in 2016 BECAUSE I wanted him to drain the swamp.  He didn't.  He made it deeper and continues to do so.

[TBayXXXVII 2,553]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

bruh, I voted for Trump in 2016 BECAUSE I wanted him to drain the swamp.  He didn't.  He made it deeper and continues to do so.

LOL, yeah, sure.  No one believes that.

[Meglamaniac 532]

1 hour ago, Nomad99 said:

The language was EASILY understandable = Republicans are doing this, so Democrats are thinking about doing it. The INTENT was even more clear= Lets not infer that Democrats have already done this or my post will be garbage.

"I even clarified it"..... no....no you did not, you went back to sweep the mud you left on the floor & erase your tracks.

Like the cuck you are, you double down on the "What? I'm innocent!"

Rinse, wash, repeat. 

bingo

[Meglamaniac 532]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Agreed. Very clear. Seems to me as though some of the Trumplicans here are just piling on Gutter to avoid saying something negative about dear leader.

Cant speak for others but not at all what I'm saying. Indended or not Gutter clearly stats one is doing it and one is considering doing it, this can't be argued 

[TimHauck 2,908]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Another guy that doesn't understand "It's all so corrupt"

How about this, are you or @Cdub100 willing to admit that what the republicans are doing is corrupt?  I'm willing to admit the democrats gerrymandering is corrupt.  You're accusing me on not admitting that but can you do the same or are you a hypocrite?

The deflection here should be good.  

[Fnord 2,293]

3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Cant speak for others but not at all what I'm saying. Indended or not Gutter clearly stats one is doing it and one is considering doing it, this can't be argued 

Sure, but that's the truth. TX IS doing it, CA WOULD BE if Newsom could skirt those pesky laws. His immediate follow up was to say "It's all so corrupt.  Drain the swamp."

Whatever, I'm not here to defend Gutter and have already participated in too many semantic arguments today. I'll just close with saying gerrymandering is corrupt bullshit no matter who does it, and Dems countering what's going on in TX with their own corruption doesn't help.

 

[TimHauck 2,908]

8 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Cant speak for others but not at all what I'm saying. Indended or not Gutter clearly stats one is doing it and one is considering doing it, this can't be argued 

But he clearly said “it’s all so corrupt,” this can’t be argued.  And if for some reason anyone was confused about his intent, he clarified it later.

[TimHauck 2,908]

54 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

HUH?

“It’s all so corrupt”