Ron_Artest 1,752 Posted August 8 9 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said: Blame Biden for not releasing them when he was in charge, crybaby I do, he should have, but Biden's not in charge anymore, Trump is, and Trump is not only not releasing the files, but he moved Maxwell to a resort. You voted for this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 807 Posted August 8 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: I do, he should have, but Biden's not in charge anymore, Trump is, and Trump is not only not releasing the files, but he moved Maxwell to a resort. You voted for this. I voted to keep illegals out of the country, a better economy, and keep ghey weirdo guys out of womens sports. You spend 80% of your life whining about Trump as if anyone here gives a damn what you think or have to say. It's pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,761 Posted August 8 20 hours ago, jerryskids said: Figure I'll put this here since it seems relevant: https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-orders-census-excluding-undocumented-130600323.html I think we should count them, since knowledge is power, but we absolutely should NOT include them in determining congressional seats. How about we compromise and count them as 3/5ths of a person for congressional seat purposes? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,333 Posted August 8 42 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Then you’ll have to change the Constitution. “Whole Persons” has never been limited to citizens. With this particular Supreme Court I would advice you to slow your roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,938 Posted August 8 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Then you’ll have to change the Constitution. “Whole Persons” has never been limited to citizens. 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: With this particular Supreme Court I would advice you to slow your roll. The 14th Amendment was intended to protect the freed slaves. "Whole person" was not intended to include people who are in the country illegally. It would be exactly the job of SCOTUS to clarify this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,260 Posted August 8 7 hours ago, jerryskids said: The 14th Amendment was intended to protect the freed slaves. "Whole person" was not intended to include people who are in the country illegally. It would be exactly the job of SCOTUS to clarify this. I mean, that is the correct answer. It's almost as if they don't know history - just revisionist history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted August 9 8 hours ago, jerryskids said: The 14th Amendment was intended to protect the freed slaves. "Whole person" was not intended to include people who are in the country illegally. It would be exactly the job of SCOTUS to clarify this. Weird that they didn’t specify this at the time then, and people 150 years later claim to know what their “intent” was, especially since later SCOTUS cases reaffirmed things like birthright citizenship (of course that doesn’t mean they won’t change it again). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,574 Posted August 9 32 minutes ago, squistion said: Do the pigeons support this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted August 10 JD Vance is okay with gerrymandering if Republicans do it. If only @EternalShinyAndChrome would admit he agrees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,326 Posted August 10 https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1954568434865369144 Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker rejects Texas Republicans' threat to arrest state Democrats: "Texas law does not apply in the state of Illinois, and there's no federal law that would allow the FBI to arrest anybody that's here visiting our state. So it's a lot of grandstanding." @NBCNews Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,260 Posted August 10 I love how the Democrats are going to "fight" the Texas redistricting after they've all already redistricted the GOP in each of their states OUT of seats already. "Hey, stop doing this thing we've already done! That's not fair!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted August 10 2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I love how the Democrats are going to "fight" the Texas redistricting after they've all already redistricted the GOP in each of their states OUT of seats already. "Hey, stop doing this thing we've already done! That's not fair!" Do you agree it’s bad if either side does it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,333 Posted August 10 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Do you agree it’s bad if either side does it? Why bother asking him, he's going to keep using his circular logic that Dems did it---ignoring that in some states there are more Dems than Reps(Cal that has a bipartisan redistricting) board , and some states were a direct response to Project REDMAP. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,525 Posted August 10 Reminds me when the Dem Shiots tried to pass law about the census only use %10 of American results. Of course, that went down faster than the chubbier.Sticky Vicky did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,260 Posted August 10 20 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Why bother asking him, he's going to keep using his circular logic that Dems did it---ignoring that in some states there are more Dems than Reps(Cal that has a bipartisan redistricting) board , and some states were a direct response to Project REDMAP. How convenient after your states already gerrymandered and now you're sitting here complaining about it. How about you fix your states first before you get upset that the GOP is doing it? I mean, c'mon. You realize how convenient it is for you to say this, right? Like, YOUR gerrymanders are already in place and your asking "the other guys" not to do it, yet you still benefit from it. Hypocrisy, thy name is Honcho and KarenHauck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted August 10 19 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: How convenient after your states already gerrymandered and now you're sitting here complaining about it. How about you fix your states first before you get upset that the GOP is doing it? I mean, c'mon. You realize how convenient it is for you to say this, right? Like, YOUR gerrymanders are already in place and your asking "the other guys" not to do it, yet you still benefit from it. Hypocrisy, thy name is Honcho and KarenHauck. Do you agree it’s bad when either side does it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,326 Posted August 10 https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1954611427437662286 House Democrats are probing the FBI's efforts to locate Texas Dems who left the state to block the GOP's gerrymandered congressional map — saying the effort is an "abuse of federal public safety resources for completely political purposes and without a law enforcement rationale." ttps://tinyurl.com/munkty6m Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 645 Posted August 11 19 hours ago, TimHauck said: Do you agree it’s bad if either side does it? Check yes or no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted August 11 3 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: Check yes or no Too bad he won’t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,986 Posted August 11 This discussion has to be one of the dumbest debates I have seen here. Both sides do it, have done it, and will continue to do it. No side is right in it. And for either side to complain about the other doing it is hypocritical as all get out. Just move on. Elections have consequences. This unfortunately is one of them. We all agree it's dumb and shouldn't happen. Yet, no one will vote to have it removed. So move the fock on. it's gonna happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,752 Posted August 11 12 minutes ago, supermike80 said: This discussion has to be one of the dumbest debates I have seen here. Both sides do it, have done it, and will continue to do it. No side is right in it. And for either side to complain about the other doing it is hypocritical as all get out. Just move on. Elections have consequences. This unfortunately is one of them. We all agree it's dumb and shouldn't happen. Yet, no one will vote to have it removed. So move the fock on. it's gonna happen. It was voted on to be removed. Democrats voted to remove it. Republicans voted to keep it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 645 Posted August 11 19 hours ago, TimHauck said: Do you agree it’s bad when either side does it? Check yes or no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,038 Posted August 27 Surprised you haven’t talked about this yet @The Real timschochet @Hawkeye21, any insight here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,421 Posted Thursday at 01:55 PM 23 hours ago, TimHauck said: Surprised you haven’t talked about this yet @The Real timschochet @Hawkeye21, any insight here? I have no idea who those people are. Looked like they only had a 24% voter turnout. That's pathetic. I just looked at that district and it's tiny. It's pretty much just Sioux City, which is a shitehole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites