John Stossel - Mamdani’s Bad Ideas

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New York, like California will get what it deserves

[squistion 2,390]

"Seizing the means of production is from a 2021 speach Mamdani gave and from its context, it is unclear (per fact checkers) what exactly he meant by that and he has not called for that in his campaign for mayor.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jul/03/seizing-means-production-Zohran-Mamdani/

A Mamdani campaign spokesperson, Andrew Epstein, said, "There is nothing in his platform or in his record regarding seizing the means of production." On NBC’s Meet the Press, Mamdani said that he is not a communist and is fighting for working people and against income inequality.

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Hangs on every word Trump said in the 80’s. Sloughs off what this pogue said 4 years ago. 

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1 hour ago, edjr said:

 

New York, like California will get what it deserves

watching a John Stossel video is a bad idea, but can you really put that on Mamdani.

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2 hours ago, squistion said:

"Seizing the means of production is from a 2021 speach Mamdani gave and from its context, it is unclear (per fact checkers) what exactly he meant by that and he has not called for that in his campaign for mayor.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jul/03/seizing-means-production-Zohran-Mamdani/

A Mamdani campaign spokesperson, Andrew Epstein, said, "There is nothing in his platform or in his record regarding seizing the means of production." On NBC’s Meet the Press, Mamdani said that he is not a communist and is fighting for working people and against income inequality.

Is that what fact checkers say?

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11 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Is that what fact checkers say?

He read it on Snopes

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1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

He read it on Snopes

I heard Kamala didnt support paying for medically transitioning convicts.  It wasn't on her website. Fact check FTW!

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1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

watching a John Stossel video is a bad idea, but can you really put that on Mamdani.

What’s wrong with Stossel?  Hes a very highly respected journalist and has been for decades 

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3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

What’s wrong with Stossel?  Hes a very highly respected journalist and has been for decades 

He doesn't like socialism. Or big government. Those are pillars of the Left.

 

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42 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

He doesn't like socialism. Or big government. Those are pillars of the Left.

 

He’s very libertarian which is where all journalists should fall 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

He’s very libertarian which is where all journalists should fall 

True libertarians should oppose Trump and support any candidate, no matter how socialist, who is pro free trade. For a libertarian there really should be no other issue at the moment. 

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51 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

True libertarians should oppose Trump and support any candidate, no matter how socialist, who is pro free trade. For a libertarian there really should be no other issue at the moment. 

nope there is no such thing as a true libertarian and the nonsense the left pushes, pushed libertarians far to the right

 

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This is the only thing stopping the Dems from a really good 2026 is this kooky embrace of socialist/communist ideas.  History tells us they'll win seats this cycle and almost any net gains flip the House.  There should be no way they can screw that up.  But the only ideas coming are just opposition to Trump or this off the reservation leftist economic ideology.  They likely will fall over the finish line for flipping the House but the gymnastics some are doing to excuse Mamdani in particular is quite interesting.

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This was priceless.

 

[jerryskids 6,986]

In another thread I posted some earlier bullet points from a luxury real estate agent firm in NY that I get emails from.  Here is their latest thoughts on Mamdani:

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Political Wild Card: The “Mamdani Effect”

Zohran Mamdani’s primary win has wealthy New Yorkers nervously refreshing Zillow in Palm Beach.

His platform includes:

Higher taxes on $1M+ earners

Rent freezes and bulked-up tenant protections

City-run groceries (Whole Foods, meet Whole Folks)

Social workers dispatched before police in some cases

 

Result:

50% spike in Florida real estate interest

Whisper listings multiplying faster than Pilates studios

Developers worrying about liquidity like it’s 2009 all over again

 

FYI - No political opinions here; just what we are hearing and seeing in the field.

Summary:  Mamdani would chase away some of the prime movers of NYC.

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14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

In another thread I posted some earlier bullet points from a luxury real estate agent firm in NY that I get emails from.  Here is their latest thoughts on Mamdani:

Summary:  Mamdani would chase away some of the prime movers of NYC.

He would if he could enforce anything on that list. I don’t think he has the power to do any of that. 

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Mamdami is not nearly the most socialist mayor NYC has had. 

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23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

He would if he could enforce anything on that list. I don’t think he has the power to do any of that. 

I'm just telling you what a luxury real estate company is saying is influencing behavior.  But perhaps you know better.  

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Gotham City has Joker, Penguin, and Batman on the ballot. Its obvious to most of the country that they're best off voting for Batman but they don't seem to want him, nor would they take our unsolicited advice.  They're the ones that live there, it's their prerogative who to lead them and they want Joker. So let them have Joker.

Apparently, Gotham voters want to kick the tires on Communism. Who are we to tell them 'no'. It's not like the rest of us have to go there or live there. It'll either work and they can take what they learn and export it to other cities or it will fail and they will have to live with it.

I'll be over here avoiding the place, praying I don't ever get assigned to a plane layover there, and eating popcorn while watching videos of what happens. I think the whole country will benefit from the lessons learned by watching what happens when you let Joker run a city.

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4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm just telling you what a luxury real estate company is saying is influencing behavior.  But perhaps you know better.  

What they say and what they actually do are two very different things. Naturally they don’t want Mamdami to win so they are making dire warnings right now. But I suspect that if Mamdami wins they will find a way to work with him. Nobody is going anywhere. 

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3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Gotham City has Joker, Penguin, and Batman on the ballot. Its obvious to most of the country that they're best off voting for Batman but they don't seem to want him, nor would they take our unsolicited advice.  They're the ones that live there, it's their prerogative who to lead them and they want Joker. So let them have Joker.

Apparently, Gotham voters want to kick the tires on Communism. Who are we to tell them 'no'. It's not like the rest of us have to go there or live there. It'll either work and they can take what they learn and export it to other cities or it will fail and they will have to live with it.

I'll be over here avoiding the place, praying I don't ever get assigned to a plane layover there, and eating popcorn while watching videos of what happens there. I think the whole country will benefit from the lessons learned by watching what happens when you let Joker run your city.

It’s really not what you think. 
 

Most voters couldn’t tell you want communism or socialism means. (Most people here don’t know the difference between the two- apparently you don’t either since you seem to think (a) Mamdami is a Communist and (b) Mamdami will bring Communism to NYC, both of which are laughable assertions.) 

Mamdami is a moderate socialist. I use the word moderate because he doesn’t even endorse most socialist ideas, only a few. Of the ideas he DOES endorse, most of those he has no power as mayor to make happen. 
 

And he’s not winning because of his ideas. He’s winning because he says he wants to lower prices, he’s young, charismatic, appealing, and he opposes Trump. Of these the “lower prices” is by far the most important. 

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23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s really not what you think. 
 

Most voters couldn’t tell you want communism or socialism means. (Most people here don’t know the difference between the two- apparently you don’t either since you seem to think (a) Mamdami is a Communist and (b) Mamdami will bring Communism to NYC, both of which are laughable assertions.) 

Mamdami is a moderate socialist. I use the word moderate because he doesn’t even endorse most socialist ideas, only a few. Of the ideas he DOES endorse, most of those he has no power as mayor to make happen. 
 

And he’s not winning because of his ideas. He’s winning because he says he wants to lower prices, he’s young, charismatic, appealing, and he opposes Trump. Of these the “lower prices” is by far the most important. 

Well let them have moderate socialism them and unfulfilled promises then. I don't care what you call it.

These voters elect leaders who think that Jordan Neely should be walking the streets and Daniel Penny belongs in jail. They also think plucking up a rock throwing Islamic teen leading and organizing chants of "Death to America," giving that kid a full ride scholarship to Columbia where he can learn US history and civics from Marxist professors and threatening harm to fellow students of the wrong color and religion is a great idea and enriches their city and neighborhoods.

In my profession, I can choose to live in any community in the country and I deliberately selected to raise my family in a place where they would not get any Mamdani nor Cuomo on them.

 

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On 8/5/2025 at 10:16 AM, squistion said:

"Seizing the means of production is from a 2021 speach Mamdani gave and from its context, it is unclear (per fact checkers) what exactly he meant by that and he has not called for that in his campaign for mayor.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/jul/03/seizing-means-production-Zohran-Mamdani/

A Mamdani campaign spokesperson, Andrew Epstein, said, "There is nothing in his platform or in his record regarding seizing the means of production." On NBC’s Meet the Press, Mamdani said that he is not a communist and is fighting for working people and against income inequality.

DSA literally believes that the government should own the means of production.

The guy talked about it four years ago. 

And of course currently wont shut up about city owned stores. 

I mean what is with you guys? Why are you all so dishonest? 

 

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On 8/5/2025 at 5:21 PM, The Real timschochet said:

True libertarians should oppose Trump and support any candidate, no matter how socialist, who is pro free trade. For a libertarian there really should be no other issue at the moment. 

Those politicians don't exist. The ones who make it onto the big stage are carefully selected. Do you think they would allow some politician who is for the people that far?

Well except Trump of course. He's the exception.

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On 8/5/2025 at 8:13 PM, Mark Davis said:

This is the only thing stopping the Dems from a really good 2026 is this kooky embrace of socialist/communist ideas.  History tells us they'll win seats this cycle and almost any net gains flip the House.  There should be no way they can screw that up.  But the only ideas coming are just opposition to Trump or this off the reservation leftist economic ideology.  They likely will fall over the finish line for flipping the House but the gymnastics some are doing to excuse Mamdani in particular is quite interesting.

Dem party has been going socialist for a long time.  It's like world history is forgotten.  How anyone could embrace socialism is not only deranged, but dangerous.