Trump and the National Guard Thread - NG to be armed in DC

[squistion 2,282]

https://x.com/BlueATLGeorgia/status/1958291742664372418 (video clip at link)

Marc Elias:

"JD Vance acts like he is afraid to walk outside Union Station. I mean, there is something very un-alpha male about a lot of the things that they're doing... the whole reason why the National Guard is in Washington, DC is because some dweeb teenage kid named Big Balls got beat up."

[Tree of Knowledge 1,943]

ZERO murders   Father Trump was right again   Hopefully, coming to a blue city cesspool near you   MAGA

 

 

[RLLD 4,275]

It is baffling that liberals will latch on to the worst possible position (supporting crime) rather than allow Trump anything, its just crazy

[Hardcore troubadour 15,560]

Lots like the movie Barfly when the guy next door to Henry is slapping his woman around. Henry tries to stop it and the guy says “she likes it” and then she says “yeah, I like it”.  

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Washington DC just had 7 straight days with ZERO homicides for the first time in forever!!

@squistion @Ron_Artest @The Real timschochet @TimHauck 

Donald Trump is your President, say it. 

 

[RLLD 4,275]

The biggest beneficiaries of this move are the good people of DC, those who are out there every day working hard to make a decent living.....mostly minorities as well, they benefit from this the most.  Even if white liberals dont like it, making peoples lives better is always worth the effort

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1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

ZERO murders   Father Trump was right again   Hopefully, coming to a blue city cesspool near you   MAGA

 

 

  7 straight days with ZERO homicides for the first time in forever!!

Trump won, AGAIN! 

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The biggest beneficiaries of this move are the good people of DC, those who are out there every day working hard to make a decent living.....mostly minorities as well, they benefit from this the most.  Even if white liberals dont like it, making peoples lives better is always worth the effort

If they’re such beneficiaries, do you want to explain why they overwhelmingly oppose this move and consider themselves LESS safe with the National guard there? 
 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/08/20/politics/washington-dc-police-national-guard-poll

[MDC 7,564]

It’s no surprise that putting military in US cities reduces crime while they’re there. When I was in Switzerland I didn’t see a policeman but there were armed soldiers everywhere and no crime. Also no poverty.

[squistion 2,282]

Reasonable quesstion from the Twitters:

Why are states like Ohio sending national guard troops to DC to help fight crime when there are cities in Ohio with higher crime rates per capita than DC?????

[Tree of Knowledge 1,943]

CNN polled the criminals

[RLLD 4,275]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

If they’re such beneficiaries, do you want to explain why they overwhelmingly oppose this move and consider themselves LESS safe with the National guard there? 
 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/08/20/politics/washington-dc-police-national-guard-poll

Because they dont, CNN is lying and should not be trusted.  They only report in a way as to oppose the political right, with no real regard for the actual lived experiences of the people.

Of course the Washington Post understands this and is actually asking those people.....

[Tree of Knowledge 1,943]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Reasonable quesstion from the Twitters:

Why are states like Ohio sending national guard troops to DC to help fight crime when there are cities in Ohio with higher crime rates per capita than DC?????

Because Ohioans love all Americans and crime stats are

[jerryskids 6,904]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If they’re such beneficiaries, do you want to explain why they overwhelmingly oppose this move and consider themselves LESS safe with the National guard there? 
 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/08/20/politics/washington-dc-police-national-guard-poll

Here's one explanation, from your link:

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Trump, who was supported by just over 6% of DC voters in last year’s presidential election, remains broadly unpopular in the District, the poll finds, with his overall job approval rating now standing at just 15% among all residents.

 

[jerryskids 6,904]

How can a city have 94% support of the same Leftist policies that have turned it into a cesspool?  Is it some sort of Stockholm Syndrome effect?  Or are they just a broken populace?   

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Here's one explanation, from your link:

 

Well at least this is a more reasonable explanation than “CNN is lying.” 

But I still think you’re wrong. Despite the fact that these are Democrats, if they truly believed that Trump’s intent was to fight crime and maintain law and order, they would be in support of it. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well at least this is a more reasonable explanation than “CNN is lying.” 

But I still think you’re wrong. Despite the fact that these are Democrats, if they truly believed that Trump’s intent was to fight crime and maintain law and order, they would be in support of it. 

They shouldn't care.  If the end result is that crime goes down and law and order is restored, they shouldn't care what the motivation is.  

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

Just now, Strike said:

They shouldn't care.  If the end result is that crime goes down and law and order is restored, they shouldn't care what the motivation is.  

But that’s the point. Is crime going down and law and order restored? There’s a lot of question about that. These folks say they feel LESS safe, not more. 

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14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

It's a weird flex I've seen from several lefties in the media; the "yeah DC is a shiothole but I'm not afraid to sprint from my car to my apartment, what are you a poosay?!" card.  We'll see how that works out for you.

The people who live in these neighborhoods overwhelmingly endorse MORE police presence.  It's the luxury belief lefties posting from Pasadena or Laguna Beach who complain about it.

Jerry! 

Let @The Real timschochet  or @Ron_Artest get robbed at gunpoint at their front door, their kid get their brains based in and their wives get tuned by an illegal alien and see how fast their beliefs change. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

But that’s the point. Is crime going down and law and order restored? There’s a lot of question about that. These folks say they feel LESS safe, not more. 

No there isn't. As someone posted, this is the first week D.C. has gone without a murder in a long time.  So LIVES were literally saved.  And the D.C. Police released violent crime stats the other day comparing violent crime for the 7 days after Trump took control of policing D.C. versus prior to that and there were significant decreases across the board with violent crime.  You are entitled to your opinion but you aren't entitled to your own set of facts.

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

No there isn't. As someone posted, this is the first week D.C. has gone without a murder in a long time.  So LIVES were literally saved.  And the D.C. Police released violent crime stats the other day comparing violent crime for the 7 days after Trump took control of policing D.C. versus prior to that and there were significant decreases across the board with violent crime.  You are entitled to your opinion but you aren't entitled to your own set of facts.

Yes there actually IS  a lot of question. Some of the “facts” you’re citing are quite problematic. Let’s take for example the “no murders in 1 week” claim. The problem with that claim is that we know that, per reporting,  the National Guard is NOT patrolling most of the areas in which the highest rate of murders take place, choosing instead to concentrate on heavy tourist areas. And the number of regular police hasn’t increased in those high crime areas. So if there are less murders (and I actually think it’s too early to make this assumption) then it’s not because of the National Guard. 
 

If it turns out that crime is down because of this move, I’ll be the first to admit it (though I will still argue that choosing a Democratic city filled with minorities vs red cities even more violent with mostly white people, like Mike Johnson’s district, was done for political and frankly racist reasons), but the sample size is as of now a little bit too early. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,560]

Don’t worry, they won’t be there forever. Then the residents of DC can have their city back. Good luck! 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes there actually IS  a lot of question. Some of the “facts” you’re citing are quite problematic. Let’s take for example the “no murders in 1 week” claim. The problem with that claim is that we know that, per reporting,  the National Guard is NOT patrolling most of the areas in which the highest rate of murders take place, choosing instead to concentrate on heavy tourist areas. And the number of regular police hasn’t increased in those high crime areas. So if there are less murders (and I actually think it’s too early to make this assumption) then it’s not because of the National Guard. 
 

If it turns out that crime is down because of this move, I’ll be the first to admit it (though I will still argue that choosing a Democratic city filled with minorities vs red cities even more violent with mostly white people, like Mike Johnson’s district, was done for political and frankly racist reasons), but the sample size is as of now a little bit too early. 

Sorry pal, stats don't lie.  Polls do but stats don't.

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

Sorry pal, stats don't lie.  Polls do but stats don't.

Your interpretation of those stats differs from mine for the reasons I just stated which you failed to respond to. 

[jerryskids 6,904]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes there actually IS  a lot of question. Some of the “facts” you’re citing are quite problematic. Let’s take for example the “no murders in 1 week” claim. The problem with that claim is that we know that, per reporting,  the National Guard is NOT patrolling most of the areas in which the highest rate of murders take place, choosing instead to concentrate on heavy tourist areas. And the number of regular police hasn’t increased in those high crime areas. So if there are less murders (and I actually think it’s too early to make this assumption) then it’s not because of the National Guard. 
 

If it turns out that crime is down because of this move, I’ll be the first to admit it (though I will still argue that choosing a Democratic city filled with minorities vs red cities even more violent with mostly white people, like Mike Johnson’s district, was done for political and frankly racist reasons), but the sample size is as of now a little bit too early. 

DC was chosen because it's our nation's capital, not some podunk meth lab infested city in the middle of nowhere.  HTH

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

DC was chosen because it's our nation's capital, not some podunk meth lab infested city in the middle of nowhere.  HTH

And I’m telling you that if DC was run by Republicans and wasn’t full of black people Trump would have chosen somewhere else, capital or no. This is about politics and race first, crime second. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,560]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And I’m telling you that if DC was run by Republicans and wasn’t full of black people Trump would have chosen somewhere else, capital or no. This is about politics and race first, crime second. 

Someone want to tell him? 

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Someone want to tell him? 

Hey don’t leave it to others. You got some racist crap about black people and crime to tell me, do it yourself. Spell it out big guy. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Hey don’t leave it to others. You got some racist crap about black people and crime to tell me, do it yourself. Spell it out big guy. 

Only blacks are committing these crimes?? You're a racist piece of shittt. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,560]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Hey don’t leave it to others. You got some racist crap about black people and crime to tell me, do it yourself. Spell it out big guy. 

Wow. I wqs referring to democrat run cities. But you went with the racist angle. 

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Wow. I wqs referring to democrat run cities. But you went with the racist angle. 

OK what about Democrat run cities? Are you going to make the false assumption that they’re worse on crime because of Demxoratic policies? Because it’s a lie: 

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/01/whos-softer-on-crime-democrats-or-republicans/

 

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5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Wow. I wqs referring to democrat run cities. But you went with the racist angle. 

He always goes there. The first thing he thought of was violent blacks. @The Real timschochet is a racist

[Hardcore troubadour 15,560]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK what about Democrat run cities? Are you going to make the false assumption that they’re worse on crime because of Demxoratic policies? Because it’s a lie: 

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/01/whos-softer-on-crime-democrats-or-republicans/

 

Oh man. You don’t have two eyes? Ever been anywhere? Ever go to the south Bronx? Taking an Uber to a show isn’t  really giving you a look at NYC. HTH. But go ahead and drive around LA and tell us how nice it is. Was.  

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

It IS true that big cities in this country are mostly Democratic. This is because big cities are filled with minorities and minorities choose liberals to govern them mostly, because conservatives have been historically reluctant to do anything about racism (and sometimes even elect racist politicians like Donald Trump or Woodrow Wilson.) This was true before the Civil Rights era when conservatives were mostly Democrats, and still true today when they are almost all Republicans. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,560]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

It IS true that big cities in this country are mostly Democratic. This is because big cities are filled with minorities and minorities choose liberals to govern them mostly, because conservatives have been historically reluctant to do anything about racism (and sometimes even elect racist politicians like Donald Trump or Woodrow Wilson.) This was true before the Civil Rights era when conservatives were mostly Democrats, and still true today when they are almost all Republicans. 

Giving them stuff has nothing to do with it either. 

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh man. You don’t have two eyes? Ever been anywhere? Ever go to the south Bronx? Taking an Uber to a show isn’t  really giving you a look at NYC. HTH. But go ahead and drive around LA and tell us how nice it is. Was.  

Should I drive through Appalachia? Mississippi? Alabama? 
 

Crime is a result of poverty. Not of race. Bigots like Trump will never accept this. And you support him. 

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Giving them stuff has nothing to do with it either. 

Whatever stuff was given was chicken feed compared to the stuff they lack form institutional racism. And it was never enough to provide them equal opportunities in our society. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,560]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Should I drive through Appalachia? Mississippi? Alabama? 
 

Crime is a result of poverty. Not of race. Bigots like Trump will never accept this. And you support him. 

Really? My whole family lived in poverty for centuries. Not a cut throat among them. When Jews lived in poverty were they criminals too? 

[The Real timschochet 6,999]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Really? My whole family lived in poverty for centuries. Not a cut throat among them. When Jews lived in poverty were they criminals too? 

No idea what your point is here. Most people who live in poverty don’t commit crimes. Even less commit violent crimes. If your family are part of the majority, great. But crime and especially violent crime, while always uncommon, are nonetheless more prevalent among poorer people. This isn’t rocket science. And even MORE prevalent among people who have suffered forced inequity in society due to institutional bigotry. 

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11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Should I drive through Appalachia? Mississippi? Alabama? 

Blaming blacks again?