cyclone24 1,921 Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Wrong again, Ukraine never asked us for boots on the ground. They want to buy our weapons. You want to cut them off so they can get slaughtered. I’m OK if they wanna buy old ass weapons. Don’t ask for anything else though. not our war or problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,921 Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Trump talked about pulling out of NATO. He doesn't believe in Europe or Allies, has nothing to do with funding, because he just sent our defense budget over a trillion. NATO was increasing their spending starting in 2014 and I provided the data that proves it. NATO is not at 5% and likely will never be. There is no credit to be given here. Agreed, we do not live in the same world. Again, it’s called negotiating. And what do you know it actually worked. See your problem is that to believe you everything that’s in your face has to be wrong about Trump. The 5% is made up. The tariffs aren’t bringing in money. Companies aren’t coming back. When we have a comical amount of evidence that all of these things are occurring. Again, you tried to tell this increase from some countries paying zero or 1% and that he went up to 1.4 1.7%. And then you try to say well they are increasing. Trump comes in and it’s now 5% but somehow he doesn’t get the credit for it. It’s laughable. It’s not even a serious point of view from a irrational person. It’s pure TDS. So no, we don’t live in the same world. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,794 Posted 2 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Terrible analogy considering Ukraine didn't want to fight Russia, they were invaded. A more apt analogy would be your friend gets attacked by a thug and asks for your help, so you offer to sell him your baseball bat so he can defend himself, but you don't even want to do that anymore. I didn’t realize Ukraine was paying us for our baseball bats. I take it all back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Again, it’s called negotiating. And what do you know it actually worked. See your problem is that to believe you everything that’s in your face has to be wrong about Trump. The 5% is made up. The tariffs aren’t bringing in money. Companies aren’t coming back. When we have a comical amount of evidence that all of these things are occurring. Again, you tried to tell this increase from some countries paying zero or 1% and that he went up to 1.4 1.7%. And then you try to say well they are increasing. Trump comes in and it’s now 5% but somehow he doesn’t get the credit for it. It’s laughable. It’s not even a serious point of view from a irrational person. It’s pure TDS. So no, we don’t live in the same world. I asked you for evidence that companies left and are now returning or investing when they wouldn't before. If there is a comical amount, provide me some, any, please? Of course tariffs are raising revenue, but it's our money, it's a tax on us, it's not coming from foreign countries. It's not 5% now He doesn't get credit because it didn't happen. And I have TDS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,794 Posted 2 hours ago 24 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Compared to Russia, yes. We drew a line in the sand here with them, it took serous balls - I know most won’t give Biden any credit here. It will likely all be tossed out the window. What are we not giving Biden credit for? It took balls to not take any real action and just whip out the check book? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,921 Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: I asked you for evidence that companies left and are now returning or investing when they wouldn't before. If there is a comical amount, provide me some, any, please? Of course tariffs are raising revenue, but it's our money, it's a tax on us, it's not coming from foreign countries. It's not 5% now He doesn't get credit because it didn't happen. And I have TDS? I’m not asking you to find a purple unicorn here. It’s been all over the news on every outlet liberal and Republican. What do you think these countries are coming over here for? A cup of coffee? If you don’t know that’s happening we can’t even get the first base because you’re not educated enough on what’s currently going on. It’s 5%. It’s even in the NATO website. So I guess they’re all making it up? Again, to believe you means all of these people and all these countries and all these businesses are just making it up, which is Rich coming from the people to told us that the Russian dossier was real in the vaccines were good and the masks work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,281 Posted 45 minutes ago 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: What are we not giving Biden credit for? It took balls to not take any real action and just whip out the check book? That alone was a big deal. Putin was saying a dime of help would be grounds for WW3. People were rightfully worried about what his reaction would be. Within years of that Ukraine was bombing inside Russia. People (us included) thought this war would be over in a few days and Ukraine would collapse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,523 Posted 35 minutes ago 9 minutes ago, thegeneral said: That alone was a big deal. Putin was saying a dime of help would be grounds for WW3. People were rightfully worried about what his reaction would be. Within years of that Ukraine was bombing inside Russia. People (us included) thought this war would be over in a few days and Ukraine would collapse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,523 Posted 32 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: And I have TDS? Youre Tim^2 level TDS. It's sad what the BOSS has reduced you to. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 236 Posted 16 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, thegeneral said: That alone was a big deal. Putin was saying a dime of help would be grounds for WW3. People were rightfully worried about what his reaction would be. Within years of that Ukraine was bombing inside Russia. People (us included) thought this war would be over in a few days and Ukraine would collapse. whew, thank God Biden was at the wheel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,656 Posted 9 minutes ago 58 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: I’m not asking you to find a purple unicorn here. It’s been all over the news on every outlet liberal and Republican. What do you think these countries are coming over here for? A cup of coffee? If you don’t know that’s happening we can’t even get the first base because you’re not educated enough on what’s currently going on. It’s 5%. It’s even in the NATO website. So I guess they’re all making it up? Again, to believe you means all of these people and all these countries and all these businesses are just making it up, which is Rich coming from the people to told us that the Russian dossier was real in the vaccines were good and the masks work If it's all over the news, surely you can share 1 article, right? Just one? As far as NATO, the 5% spending is a 2035 goal. It's not in place now. Trump didn't make it happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,182 Posted 9 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: And I have TDS? Yeah. Severely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites