Horseman 2,560 Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: The statement was made that statistically voter fraud is non existent. You presenting one example proves that point. What were talking about is the need to eliminate mail in ballots because you can't have a free and fair election with it. That's complete BS. I invite you to counter that if you like but a single story of Michigan city council member ain't gonna cut it. You'd be wise to just sit this one out. You see what we were talking about is..... The guy thats wrong and confused has to summarize it for everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Meglamaniac said: Your TDS aside, no one else said anything about 2020. Tim=Your opinion is wrong. Statistically voter fraud is non-existent. Gutter=Well if you have any evidence you can share. But truth is it doesn't exist. Anyone see 2020 in here, nope, I shared, you tried moving the goalposts to 2020, now run along and skyscream some more about Trump The thread is about how mail in voting makes an election fraudulent. You can either provide evidence that it does. Or the other statement was that the fraud is stastiscally significant. You can Providence that shows it is. One story about a primary doesn't do that, I'm sorry. So again you can try harder or just yawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: The thread is about how mail in voting makes an election fraudulent. You can either provide evidence that it does. Or the other statement was that the fraud is stastiscally significant. You can Providence that shows it is. One story about a primary doesn't do that, I'm sorry. So again you can try harder or just yawn. Statistically voter fraud is non-existent. Well if you have any evidence you can share. But truth is it doesn't exist. proven wrong again and again, maybe next time think before you try to move the goalposts Now hurry back to skyscreaming about Trump 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 20 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Strike said: This is crap. The link i.posted was of a local candidate stuffing a ballot box to ensure his win. In a district where two others were just indicted for similar tactics in a previous election. That was VERY statistically significant. I'm guessing you never took a stat class in your life. When looked at this at a national level, how many districts does this happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 20 hours ago Just now, Ron_Artest said: I'm guessing you never took a stat class in your life. When looked at this at a national level, how many districts does this happen? more than non existent hth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,691 Posted 20 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: I'm guessing you never took a stat class in your life. When looked at this at a national level, how many districts does this happen? I've said for years that I care about voter fraud in.local elections a lot more than national. There are a hell of a lot more local elections than national. You keep moving the goal posts. It gets tiring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 20 hours ago Just now, Meglamaniac said: more than non existent hth Let me explain. If something happens .001%, that means it exists, but not in a frequency where it's significant. Make sense? So while voter fraud has happened in isolated incidents over many years, it's usually not significant to the outcome of the election. When Donald Trump says that we need to stop mail in ballots because you can't have a free election with it, the next question is show me the evidence in a statistically significant manner. You can't. And that's where we are. Hope this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Strike said: I've said for years that I care about voter fraud in.local elections a lot more than national. There are a hell of a lot more local elections than national. You keep moving the goal posts. It gets tiring. Try and stick to the topic of the thread, no moving goal posts. Do you agree with Trump that mail in voting makes all elections fraudulent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Let me explain. If something happens .001%, that means it exists, but not in a frequency where it's significant. Make sense? So while voter fraud has happened in isolated incidents over many years, it's usually not significant to the outcome of the election. When Donald Trump says that we need to stop mail in ballots because you can't have a free election with it, the next question is show me the evidence in a statistically significant manner. You can't. And that's where we are. Hope this helps. let me explain, you're wrong and no amount of typing on your part is going to change that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said: let me explain, you're wrong and no amount of typing on your part is going to change that Ok, if I'm wrong I accept that, but you need to prove it. Show me the stats that show that mail in ballots make elections fraudulent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,008 Posted 20 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Strike said: I've said for years that I care about voter fraud in.local elections a lot more than national. There are a hell of a lot more local elections than national. You keep moving the goal posts. It gets tiring. So share the stats. Because 1 city out of thousands isn’t statistically significant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Ok, if I'm wrong I accept that, but you need to prove it. Show me the stats that show that mail in ballots make elections fraudulent. I already provided a link that proves voter fraud does exist, end of story, you said it doesn't exist, YOUR WORDS THAT YOU TYPED and I proved it does Everything else is you twisting in the wind to be not wrong Well if you have any evidence you can share. But truth is it doesn't exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: So share the stats. Because 1 city out of thousands isn’t statistically significant Well if you have any evidence you can share. But truth is it doesn't exist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 19 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: I already provided a link that proves voter fraud does exist, end of story, you said it doesn't exist, YOUR WORDS THAT YOU TYPED and I proved it does Everything else is you twisting in the wind to be not wrong Well if you have any evidence you can share. But truth is it doesn't exist. Ok I get it, you're confused. When I said it doesn't exist, I was referring to the statistical significance, not any voter fraud. I agree there has been voter fraud, obviously, but it's not significant and certainly has not influenced the outcomes of national elections. Would you agree with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,008 Posted 19 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: I already provided a link that proves voter fraud does exist, end of story, you said it doesn't exist, YOUR WORDS THAT YOU TYPED and I proved it does Everything else is you twisting in the wind to be not wrong Well if you have any evidence you can share. But truth is it doesn't exist. You left out the “statistically,” part, why are you being intentionally misleading? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 19 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Ok I get it, you're confused. When I said it doesn't exist, I was referring to the statistical significance, not any voter fraud. I agree there has been voter fraud, obviously, but it's not significant and certainly has not influenced the outcomes of national elections. Would you agree with that? Im not cunfused at all, you were wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 19 hours ago Just now, Meglamaniac said: Im not cunfused at all, you were wrong No you're confused. It's pretty clear what I meant to anyone being fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 19 hours ago 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You left out the “statistically,” part, why are you being intentionally misleading? you know why TimHack, cause they didnt say statistacally, I litterally posted what they posted , its right there in my post I'm not being misleading about anything, sorry youre to dense to see that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 19 hours ago Just now, Ron_Artest said: No you're confused. It's pretty clear what I meant to anyone being fair. no im really not, no matter how many time you post it best if you just move back to skyscreaming cause here you were WRONG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,691 Posted 19 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Try and stick to the topic of the thread, no moving goal posts. Do you agree with Trump that mail in voting makes all elections fraudulent? No. Let's finish with your moving the goalposts. When did Trump say he only wanted to change voting for national elections ONLY, which is idiotic since most elections have a local and national component. But I'll let you enoighten me on how this thread is only about national elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,691 Posted 19 hours ago 23 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So share the stats. Because 1 city out of thousands isn’t statistically significant It is to that city. You guys are trapped. I proved that lax security can allow elections to be stolen. Keep trying to move the goal posts and deflect. That's the only thing you and the 10 times banned aliases are good at, and you're still not very good at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,008 Posted 19 hours ago Just now, Strike said: I proved that lax security can allow elections to be stolen. Who said it couldn’t, goalpost mover? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,925 Posted 19 hours ago The 2020 election was stolen due to mail in voting and non existent internal controls in contested states and the usual blue state suspects. That is undeniable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,008 Posted 19 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: you know why TimHack, cause they didnt say statistacally, I litterally posted what they posted , its right there in my post I'm not being misleading about anything, sorry youre to dense to see that That post was directly in response to one talking about evidence of it being statistically significant. You’re being intentionally misleading, it’s okay you can admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 598 Posted 19 hours ago 24 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You left out the “statistically,” part, why are you being intentionally misleading? I now see why you are asking this, it wasn't meant to be misleading statistically significant and non-existent are very different things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 19 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Strike said: No. Let's finish with your moving the goalposts. When did Trump say he only wanted to change voting for national elections ONLY, which is idiotic since most elections have a local and national component. But I'll let you enoighten me on how this thread is only about national elections. Well we can start with the title of the thread. Midterms. So that is what we're talking about. It's also a fair assumption given Trump's history of claiming he lost the 2020 election due to fraud from mail in ballots. It would be foolish to think that Trump cares about and/or questions the integrity of local town council elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 19 hours ago 27 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Who said it couldn’t, goalpost mover? Exactly. Strike with the hilarious self own Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,534 Posted 19 hours ago The best way to rig an election would be no ID and mail in ballots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 319 Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, Strike said: ROFLMAO. And the goalposts move. How shocking!!!! That was so textbook. Hahaha. It is just instinctual for them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,008 Posted 18 hours ago 4 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: That was so textbook. Hahaha. It is just instinctual for them. Did you see Strike then immediately move the goalposts himself? Textbook. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,691 Posted 18 hours ago 18 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Did you see Strike then immediately move the goalposts himself? Textbook. Except I didn't. But I get it. You and GutterBanned got cornered so now you're flailing with all your might to try to avoid admitting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 18 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Except I didn't. But I get it. You and GutterBanned got cornered so now you're flailing with all your might to try to avoid admitting it. Look at the thread title bruh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 319 Posted 18 hours ago 16 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Did you see Strike then immediately move the goalposts himself? Textbook. No. I didnt. I did see a bunch of people that dont understand what "statistically" means. "Statistically voter fraud exists." Is a 100% true statement. "Statistically voter fraud is non existent" is a 100% false statement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,008 Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, Strike said: I proved that lax security can allow elections to be stolen. 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Who said it couldn’t, goalpost mover? Bump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,675 Posted 18 hours ago 21 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: No. I didnt. I did see a bunch of people that dont understand what "statistically" means. "Statistically voter fraud exists." Is a 100% true statement. "Statistically voter fraud is non existent" is a 100% false statement. Now do statistically significant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,206 Posted 17 hours ago 36 minutes ago, jonnyutah said: No. I didnt. I did see a bunch of people that dont understand what "statistically" means. "Statistically voter fraud exists." Is a 100% true statement. "Statistically voter fraud is non existent" is a 100% false statement. I mean, c'mon. It's patently obvious so I'm not sure why they just don't admit they're wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,008 Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, jonnyutah said: No. I didnt. I did see a bunch of people that dont understand what "statistically" means. "Statistically voter fraud exists." Is a 100% true statement. "Statistically voter fraud is non existent" is a 100% false statement. Because you’re blind to your obvious bias. He claimed he proved elections can be stolen when no one said otherwise. Lol at the semantic gymnastics here. “0.000000001% is still a statistic!” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,301 Posted 17 hours ago Mail in works amazing. Here’s how it works in a well run place: You get a text your ballot is on the way, you get a ballot in mail a couple days later, you fill it out and sign it when you have time, you tear off a tracking code, you mail it back. The state texts you when it is received. It’s that easy. Figure it out dipshit states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,190 Posted 17 hours ago 9 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Trying to ban absentee ballots. Not a dictator though right? Who would vote for a pedo like this if he wasn't a pedo himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,534 Posted 17 hours ago People can’t get an ID but they can get a smart phone. Liberals are so fockin stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites