Mass shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church and School in Minneapolis

[Hardcore troubadour 15,583]

Only devout Catholics tell their kid they will regret chopping their junk off. Everyone else is good with it. 🪖

[TimHauck 3,030]

23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Only devout Catholics tell their kid they will regret chopping their junk off. Everyone else is good with it. 🪖

And yet your reasoning for saying she wasn’t devout is because she signed off on the name change…

[TimHauck 3,030]

On 8/27/2025 at 2:54 PM, Strike said:

Let's be real - If we made it illegal for anyone who identifies as the opposite gender as their biological sex to come anywhere near a gun we'd have at least 50 people still alive just in the last five years and a bunch less of these school/church shootings.  But Tim would never go for that, nor should he.   But ban guns.  Hell yeah, top of Tim's list.

 

On 8/27/2025 at 3:50 PM, TimHauck said:

Can you clarify your math here please?

This shooting: 2 victims + shooter

Covenant school: 6 victims + shooter

What others?  And if you say Colorado Springs you are not a serious poster.

 

 

On 8/27/2025 at 5:31 PM, TimHauck said:

 

Bump.  I’ll give you the Iowa one, but even that wasn’t confirmed that I saw.  That’s another 2 victims + shooter which puts you at 13.  Still only about 1/4 of the way to 50.

Bump

[supermike80 1,984]

5 hours ago, TimHauck said:

But how is telling them that considered “treatment”?

Im not sure i understand your question.  Is that what you think therapists do?  If a guy thinks hes jesus you think the therapy is to tell him he isnt in fact Jesus and that is the extent of what therapy has to offer?

[jerryskids 6,928]

17 hours ago, TimHauck said:

How exactly does a man that thinks he’s a woman get “treated”?

 

17 hours ago, supermike80 said:

Is this a real question?

How does a woman with anorexia get "treated"

Holy fock

Noticed that Tim ignored your answer to his inane question.

Hey Tim, how exactly does someone with anorexia get "treated"?

How exactly does someone with bulimia get "treated"?

Depression?

Pedophilia?

Any mental illness?

[Maximum Overkill 2,159]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

And yet your reasoning for saying she wasn’t devout is because she signed off on the name change…

Do you prefer that I refer to you as "Tampon Tim" or "Transtifa Tim"? It's only right that I let you decide. 

[TimHauck 3,030]

28 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

Noticed that Tim ignored your answer to his inane question.

Hey Tim, how exactly does someone with anorexia get "treated"?

How exactly does someone with bulimia get "treated"?

Depression?

Pedophilia?

Any mental illness?

Well I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t “treat” someone with depression by saying they’re not actually depressed.

[TimHauck 3,030]

49 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Im not sure i understand your question.  Is that what you think therapists do?  If a guy thinks hes jesus you think the therapy is to tell him he isnt in fact Jesus and that is the extent of what therapy has to offer?

I don’t know exactly what therapists do.  Can you provide an example of how you think the conversation between a tranny and a therapist might go?

[jerryskids 6,928]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t “treat” someone with depression by saying they’re not actually depressed.

No therapist would.  Is this your big point?  You ask a stupid question, then say your pretty sure the solution isn't a stupid answer?

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,159]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t know exactly what therapists do.  Can you provide an example of how you think the conversation between a tranny and a therapist might go?

You're missing the point entirely. We don't hate trans people, we hate the fact that you celebrate them as if they've done something special. 

As if being Trans is a great accomplishment of some sort. 

[TimHauck 3,030]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

No therapist would.  Is this your big point? 

Well that would be the analogy to treating a trans woman by telling them they’re not actually a woman. 

[jerryskids 6,928]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well that would be the analogy to treating a trans woman by telling them they’re not actually a woman. 

You keep doubling down with dumber answers to your dumb question. 

[TimHauck 3,030]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You keep doubling down with dumber answers to your dumb question. 

I’m surprised you’re going down this road, aren’t you one of the few around here that actually acknowledges that being trans is a real thing?

[Mark Davis 405]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off, sorry but I’m not going to take your opinion over those of medical experts. Simply saying that you know what a man or a woman is” has nothing to do with mental illness. It’s not a topic I am able to discuss intelligently anymore than nuclear physics; based on your comments you aren’t either. 
 

Second: you may very well be right that this issue had a significant effect in the last election. But in terms of trying to predict future elections I would caution you: remember that a big reason George W. Bush was re-elected in 2004 was opposition to gay marriage, but ten years later attitudes have changed. The key to questions regarding cultural political questions is not what the public at large thinks today, but what those under 30 think. And every poll and study suggests they are far more accepting of what the experts tell us. 

It's not a lot more difficult than XX and XY chromosomes. I know you passed biology at some point and understood basic genetics. If you don't accept that anymore as factual then it's a fruitless conversation.

Your analogy to gay marriage is off to me because I don't think the opposition to gay marriage in large came from people believing gay people were mentally ill.  There were a vocal minority of that opposition who thought that.  But growing up in a conservative town, I knew very few people who thought that.  It had more to do with religious views about marriage. 

I look at the trans issue no differently than the poor soul I saw riding a bicycle in the wrong direction along one of the busiest highways in our state yesterday.  He was out there at dusk with people slamming on their brakes to keep from hitting and killing him.  The guy was talking to himself as I passed.  I didn't hate the man, I felt pity and hope he finds help.  I don't hate someone who thinks they are a woman if they are a man, but I do think they need help.  I do think it's harmful for us to hide from what has always been basic biology and genetics because an ideology tells you to do so.  If you allow someone to keep believing in fantasies and delusions, depression is bound to follow because they aren't living in reality and eventually reality always slaps you in the face.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,251]

18 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, that’s not all that can be done.  But thinking leaving them open doesn’t matter? You’re a pathetic fool.  Imagine following the likes of MDC, Mooney and Hack?  Get a grip man. I actually think you’re better. 

Imagine Mooney, Hack, Ghey_Artest and Sandy Cvm Loaf in their own fireteam.  They would be dead within seconds.  But, then again, they wouldn't have even been allowed in the Marine Corp to even be in a fireteam in the first place.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,251]

34 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

It's not a lot more difficult than XX and XY chromosomes. I know you passed biology at some point and understood basic genetics. If you don't accept that anymore as factual then it's a fruitless conversation.

Your analogy to gay marriage is off to me because I don't think the opposition to gay marriage in large came from people believing gay people were mentally ill.  There were a vocal minority of that opposition who thought that.  But growing up in a conservative town, I knew very few people who thought that.  It had more to do with religious views about marriage. 

I look at the trans issue no differently than the poor soul I saw riding a bicycle in the wrong direction along one of the busiest highways in our state yesterday.  He was out there at dusk with people slamming on their brakes to keep from hitting and killing him.  The guy was talking to himself as I passed.  I didn't hate the man, I felt pity and hope he finds help.  I don't hate someone who thinks they are a woman if they are a man, but I do think they need help.  I do think it's harmful for us to hide from what has always been basic biology and genetics because an ideology tells you to do so.  If you allow someone to keep believing in fantasies and delusions, depression is bound to follow because they aren't living in reality and eventually reality always slaps you in the face.

So, the guy who says he's going to believe scientists and doctors is also turning around and saying that XX and XY aren't real?  As if they are manufactured constructs?  WTF?

[jerryskids 6,928]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’m surprised you’re going down this road, aren’t you one of the few around here that actually acknowledges that being trans is a real thing?

What road?  You are the one with the implication that therapy wouldn't help mentally ill people.

Saying that there are people with gender dysphoria doesn't mean that they can't benefit from therapy.

First, a growing majority of trans, particularly in children, are victims of social contagion, and don't have gender dysphoria.  They need therapy to uncover and address the underlying issues which lead to their false belief.

Second, those with gender dysphoria very well can have underlying issues driving their false belief as well. Or perhaps not. I'm not a mental health expert enough to prescribe a specific therapy regimen, but it boggles my mind that for every other mental illness, the medical profession works to address it, but for this one, they not only don't, they celebrate and encourage it.

 

[TimHauck 3,030]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What road?  You are the one with the implication that therapy wouldn't help mentally ill people.

Saying that there are people with gender dysphoria doesn't mean that they can't benefit from therapy.

First, a growing majority of trans, particularly in children, are victims of social contagion, and don't have gender dysphoria.  They need therapy to uncover and address the underlying issues which lead to their false belief.

Second, those with gender dysphoria very well can have underlying issues driving their false belief as well. Or perhaps not. I'm not a mental health expert enough to prescribe a specific therapy regimen, but it boggles my mind that for every other mental illness, the medical profession works to address it, but for this one, they not only don't, they celebrate and encourage it.

 

I never said therapy wouldn’t help people or that at least some trans folks shouldn’t get therapy.

My question is moreso: what would the end goal of the therapy be?  I assume most here would say something along the lines of “for them to stop pretending they’re the opposite sex.”  But I’m not sure that’s the correct answer.

I agree there’s a social contagion factor.  So yes, I think it’d be a good idea for everyone experiencing gender dysphoria to see a therapist when they first start having those feelings. And most likely some would realize they’re not actually trans.  But that’s not always going to be the case.  So for example, would you say someone that’s had gender dysphoria for 10+ years and is 25+ years old, and has no other “underlying issue,” should still see a therapist about the gender dysphoria?  I’d say no.

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I never said therapy wouldn’t help people or that at least some trans folks shouldn’t get therapy.

My question is moreso: what would the end goal of the therapy be?  I assume most here would say something along the lines of “for them to stop pretending they’re the opposite sex.”  But I’m not sure that’s the correct answer.

I agree there’s a social contagion factor.  So yes, I think it’d be a good idea for everyone experiencing gender dysphoria to see a therapist when they first start having those feelings. And most likely some would realize they’re not actually trans.  But that’s not always going to be the case.  So for example, would you say someone that’s had gender dysphoria for 10+ years and is 25+ years old, and has no other “underlying issue,” should still see a therapist about the gender dysphoria?  I’d say no.

How do you or they know there is no other underlying issue, if you don't have therapy?   

[TimHauck 3,030]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

How do you or they know there is no other underlying issue, if you don't have therapy?   

I literally said it would be a good idea for them have therapy initially.  But I think there can be a point that they “graduate” from it, even if they don’t stop being trans.

[jerryskids 6,928]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I literally said it would be a good idea for them have therapy initially.  But I think there can be a point that they “graduate” from it, even if they don’t stop being trans.

For that subset of people, I think there is a discussion.

As a thought experiment for such people who seek medical solutions: if a person with no other underlying issues truly believes that they'd be happier if they cut off their arm, would the medical community endorse it and help them do it?

[Herbivore 1,146]

serious question..i have only seen that the shooter changed his name from robert to robin, and heard a guy on cnn call the shooter her. is there anything else that points to trans? please share..thank you.

[jerryskids 6,928]

23 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off the best solution is more gun control, specifically restricting mentally ill people from purchasing guns. 
 

Second, iits not for us to argue whether or not transgender people are mentally ill. That is for health experts to decide. And they have: 

https://www.mentalhealthjournal.org/articles/gender-incongruence-is-no-longer-a-mental-disorder.html

That’s it. End of discussion. I really don’t care if a million people on the internet disagree- they don’t know. These folks do. 

The WHO is a political arm of the UN which unapologetically advocates for trans rights.  From your link:

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On June 18, 2018 the World Health Organization (WHO)⁵ establish itself as a pioneer in the process of depathologization of transsexuality. This struggle, in order to stop transsexuality from being considered a mental disorder and to eliminate the gender identity disorder of the international manuals of mental disorders, had been represented in the last decade by the powerful movements of depathologization (Stop Trans Pathologization, depsychopathologisation statement released, etc)^6,7,8

The effort to depathologize transsexuality is a (powerful) movement, not based on any medical reason.  Also:

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The WHO justifies have taken gender incongruence out from mental illness, first of all, because at present there is greater normalization and knowledge about the diversity and gender variants that separate them from mental illness. Secondly, by eliminating this condition from the mental disorders chapter, the stigma which in our culture is more associated with mental disorders decreases^12,15.

Again, not science.  It is justified by greater normalization in society, and because it makes people with the mental illness feel bad.  No medical reason.

I've got a much larger post to make on this topic, probably its own thread when I get around to it, that shows that the AMA "experts" are anything but.  But for now, suffice it to say that the WHO made a political decision, not a scientific one.

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19 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

serious question..i have only seen that the shooter changed his name from robert to robin, and heard a guy on cnn call the shooter her. is there anything else that points to trans? please share..thank you.

On the name change form it said identifies as a female.  There are also some writings from the shooter talking about it.  But there is no indication that there was any medical transitioning that took place.

[seafoam1 3,208]

44 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

On the name change form it said identifies as a female.  There are also some writings from the shooter talking about it.  But there is no indication that there was any medical transitioning that took place.

Who cares? 

[jonnyutah 354]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Who cares? 

People that are crazy and say things like We need trans people we love trans people trans people belong here. 

[Grace Under Pressure 129]

So it was obviously a Trump supporting Nazi anti semite? What a surprise. 

Gullible, stupid, and dangerous. The MAGA trifecta. 

[Maximum Overkill 2,159]

14 hours ago, jonnyutah said:

People that are crazy and say things like We need trans people we love trans people trans people belong here. 

   TRUTH

They regard Trannies as heros. As if they've done something special by claiming to be a sex that they're not. They even celebrate these mentally ill pervs. Biden had a "Pride" celebration at the White House to celebrate these freaks! The Libs even gave them their own Month to celebrate Crossdressing. 

Ask any Pedocrat @TimHauck @Ron_Artest @Sandy Loam @The Real timschochet and they'll tell you that it's totally normal.to celebrate these people.