Political violence

[Hardcore troubadour 15,729]

The rioters hide in the weeds. The protesters are the weeds. 

[jerryskids 6,965]

38 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes, this is largely what happened.  Or are you saying you watched coverage of both the protests and riots and could pick out people that were at both?

I feel like you've moved the goalposts here, not surprisingly.  Certainly there were differences between the daytime, "mostly peaceful" protestors, and the nighttime hooligans.  Certainly some overlap as well.  We can argue the extent and never agree.

But the question was political motivation.  Sure, looters gonna loot, but Antifa and BLM instigated a lot of the mindless destruction, and they are politically motivated.

[Meglamaniac 714]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The rioters hide in the weeds. The protesters are the weeds. 

TimHack Font

Are you trying to say you can tell the weeds from the rioters

[Meglamaniac 714]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I feel like you've moved the goalposts here, not surprisingly.  Certainly there were differences between the daytime, "mostly peaceful" protestors, and the nighttime hooligans.  Certainly some overlap as well.  We can argue the extent and never agree.

But the question was political motivation.  Sure, looters gonna loot, but Antifa and BLM instigated a lot of the mindless destruction, and they are politically motivated.

Not BLM

 

Fight breaks out at vigil after cyclist shouted anti-Charlie Kirk message

[The Real timschochet 7,130]

34 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

IMO there's a difference is the old school liberalism and the Marxist leftist fringe that exists today.  It's taken hold, specifically amongst younger folks on the left.  Their views are anti capitalist much more so than for instance the posters here that are viewed on the left.  Marxism is much more violent, it's not about coexisting or accepting a difference of opinion.  I'm afraid that's what we are seeing on college campuses today.  It's not exclusively a young person issue but it's much more prevalent in polling. 

I had a friend who posted some really vile stuff on social media today about this.  I knew he and I disagreed on many political things, but he was out there justifying it, talking about how bad of a person Kirk was.  The man is nearing 60 if he isn't there already, I've known him for over 30 years.  All joking aside, I think he's let this political rhetoric impact his mental health.  I think some of these things are in that realm as well.

Who are the most prominent leftists in America today? I would argue: Bernie Sanders, AOC, and now Momdani. These three are the ones who openly and prominently carry the socialist banner, wouldn’t you agree? But none of them have ever promoted political violence. 

[The Real timschochet 7,130]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I feel like you've moved the goalposts here, not surprisingly.  Certainly there were differences between the daytime, "mostly peaceful" protestors, and the nighttime hooligans.  Certainly some overlap as well.  We can argue the extent and never agree.

But the question was political motivation.  Sure, looters gonna loot, but Antifa and BLM instigated a lot of the mindless destruction, and they are politically motivated.

Antifa is violent.i don’t believe BLM was involved in violence. 

[TimHauck 3,135]

10 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

TimHack Font

Are you trying to say you can tell the weeds from the rioters

lol at this coming from the guy that thinks a white guy who said we are being hunted after posting a bunch of black on white crime stats doesn’t mean he was saying whites are being hunted

[Meglamaniac 714]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

lol at this coming from the guy that thinks a white guy who said we are being hunted after posting a bunch of black on white crime stats doesn’t mean he was saying whites are being hunted

What I think is what you posted was a lie, no one said white people being hunted.

That was your assumption on what he meant, not what was posted, it not that hard idiot

[TimHauck 3,135]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

What I think is what you posted was a lie, no one said white people being hunted.

That was your assumption on what he meant, not what was posted, it not that hard idiot

Assumption, lol

[Meglamaniac 714]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Assumption, lol

yep, you make a lot of them and post them as fact

[Maximum Overkill 2,291]

I never condone violence against Liberals but after all the violence against Conservatives, I won't shed a tear when it happens. Guaranteed 

[seafoam1 3,254]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Antifa is violent.i don’t believe BLM was involved in violence. 

[TimHauck 3,135]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I feel like you've moved the goalposts here, not surprisingly.  Certainly there were differences between the daytime, "mostly peaceful" protestors, and the nighttime hooligans.  Certainly some overlap as well.  We can argue the extent and never agree.

But the question was political motivation.  Sure, looters gonna loot, but Antifa and BLM instigated a lot of the mindless destruction, and they are politically motivated.

Let’s go back to the original claim then that sprouted that discussion.  Do you think 99.9% of political violence is committed by the left?

[jerryskids 6,965]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Antifa is violent.i don’t believe BLM was involved in violence. 

BLM is built on marxism.  Marxism is violent.  Justified of course, like you with your rhetoric.   

[jerryskids 6,965]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Let’s go back to the original claim then that sprouted that discussion.  Do you think 99.9% of political violence is committed by the left?

No, that sounds like hyperbole.  

[TimHauck 3,135]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

No, that sounds like hyperbole.  

So you agree hyperbole isn’t true!

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25 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Who are the most prominent leftists in America today? I would argue: Bernie Sanders, AOC, and now Momdani. These three are the ones who openly and prominently carry the socialist banner, wouldn’t you agree? But none of them have ever promoted political violence. 

You're a foking idiot. AOC called Trump a Neo-Nazi right after he was almost assassinated.   

 

 

[Horseman 2,683]

During his 2025 mayoral primary campaign, Mamdani refused to condemn the slogan "globalize the intifada" in a podcast interview.

[Horseman 2,683]

And we've completely forgotten the penchant for violence the Bernie supporters had in 2016 I guess. 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,031]

Powerful and accurate 

 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Who are the most prominent leftists in America today? I would argue: Bernie Sanders, AOC, and now Momdani. These three are the ones who openly and prominently carry the socialist banner, wouldn’t you agree? But none of them have ever promoted political violence. 

So are you claiming that Marxism has not had a violent tint to it over time?  I don’t know any of the three personally, none have enough power to call for something that extreme and hold their current office. It doesn’t mean historically that if those with similar beliefs gain enough power they can and have committed violent acts in support of it. I’m not going to blame Bernie Sanders directly, but you use him as an example. It was a Bernie supporter who shot Steve Scalise.

[lickin_starfish 1,976]

The violent Left:

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996

https://www.charliesmurderers.com/

[Tree of Knowledge 2,031]

13 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

The violent Left:

https://x.com/babybeginner/status/1966064272552906996

https://www.charliesmurderers.com/

Crazy how much they hate JK Rowling 

 

[The Real timschochet 7,130]

23 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

So are you claiming that Marxism has not had a violent tint to it over time?  I don’t know any of the three personally, none have enough power to call for something that extreme and hold their current office. It doesn’t mean historically that if those with similar beliefs gain enough power they can and have committed violent acts in support of it. I’m not going to blame Bernie Sanders directly, but you use him as an example. It was a Bernie supporter who shot Steve Scalise.

And it was a Trump supporter who shot the guy in Minnesota and another Trump supporter who attacked Paul Pelosi. I don’t think we should go there with “supporters.” 
 

With regard to Marxism: it’s an all encompassing term that describes both socialists and Communists. As a general rule socialists have been non-violent and Communists have been violent. The break between them came about 120 years ago (the whole Bolshevik- Menshevik divide.) There are no prominent American Communists. The prominent American socialists are all non-violent. 

[Meglamaniac 714]

54 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So you agree hyperbole isn’t true!

true POS

Just walk away Jerry

[Maximum Overkill 2,291]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

And it was a Trump supporter who shot the guy in Minnesota

No it wasn't, it was a Liberal NO KINGS protestor. Who also happens to be Walz's gay lover. 

Just like when a Drunken Pelosi got chased around by his gay lover with a hammer. 

[TimHauck 3,135]

8 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

true POS

Just walk away Jerry

Jerry agrees, hyperboles are not true! 

[The Real timschochet 7,130]

5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

No it wasn't, it was a Liberal NO KINGS protestor. Who also happens to be Walz's gay lover. 

Just like when a Drunken Pelosi got chased around by his gay lover with a hammer. 

OK. Please stop wasting everyone’s time. 

[Meglamaniac 714]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Jerry agrees, hyperboles are not true! 

you speak for Jerry, good to know, I'm sure he'll be suprised

[Maximum Overkill 2,291]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK. Please stop wasting everyone’s time. 

Enough of your rhetoric. This is about another violent liberal murdering a conservative for WORDS. 

We're tired 

[TimHauck 3,135]

1 minute ago, Meglamaniac said:

you speak for Jerry, good to know, I'm sure he'll be suprised

No he speaks for himself. I asked him if he thought 99.9% of political violence came from the left (which was posted here).  He said “no, that sounds like hyperbole.” 

No = not true.  Thats not an assumption, its basic reading comprehension.

HTH

[Meglamaniac 714]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

No he speaks for himself. I asked him if he thought 99.9% of political violence came from the left (which was posted here).  He said “no, that sounds like hyperbole.” 

No = not true.  Thats not an assumption, its basic reading comprehension.

HTH

more lies, you clearly spoke for Jerry

[The Real timschochet 7,130]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Enough of your rhetoric. This is about another violent liberal murdering a conservative for WORDS. 

We're tired 

If I had choose one person in this forum most guilty of spewing irresponsible, hateful rhetoric, it would quite easily be you. I was hoping  what happened yesterday taught you a lesson. It doesn’t appear that it has. 

[lickin_starfish 1,976]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No he speaks for himself. I asked him if he thought 99.9% of political violence came from the left (which was posted here).  He said “no, that sounds like hyperbole.” 

No = not true.  Thats not an assumption, its basic reading comprehension.

HTH

That's a terrific gotcha! You can go to sleep tonight feeling proud of yourself.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,729]

1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Powerful and accurate 

 

 

 

Wow. It really is powerful. And only a fraction.  “He didn’t mean a real bullet”. 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,031]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If I had choose one person in this forum most guilty of spewing irresponsible, hateful rhetoric, it would quite easily be you. I was hoping  what happened yesterday taught you a lesson. It doesn’t appear that it has. 

You just called me a Stalin supporter last week.  

[Maximum Overkill 2,291]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

taught you a lesson

You're threatening to Kill me Tim?? 

[TimHauck 3,135]

1 hour ago, Meglamaniac said:

What I think is what you posted was a lie, no one said white people being hunted.

That was your assumption on what he meant, not what was posted, it not that hard idiot

Okay so you don’t like me asking yes or no questions to confirm people’s opinions, which I believe is what started your weird obsession with me, when I tried to agree with you but simply asked you a follow up question which you refused to answer (likely because it would prove your hypocrisy).

But you also don’t like me making obvious conclusions, like saying that a white guy who  listed a bunch of black on white crime stats followed by “we are bring hunted” was clearly saying white people are being hunted.

So you’re a fraud, got it.

 

 

[TimHauck 3,135]

3 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

That's a terrific gotcha! You can go to sleep tonight feeling proud of yourself.

Why don’t you read some more obituaries that you can blame on the Covid vax you ghoul 

[The Real timschochet 7,130]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

You're threatening to Kill me Tim?? 

What? Where did you get that from?