FBI Uncovers NBA Gambling Scandal

[5-Points 3,746]

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What we know

• Miami Heat guard Terry Rozier was arrested this morning in Orlando, Florida, in connection with a federal gambling-related investigation, two senior law enforcement officials told NBC News.
• The FBI and other officials will be announcing charges later this morning, the officials said.
• Chauncey Billups, coach of the Portland Trail Blazers, was also arrested by the FBI, two law enforcement officials say.
• An FBI spokesperson confirmed former NBA player Damon Jones, who played for the Cleveland Cavaliers, has been arrested in Las Vegas.
• Members and associates of organized crime groups are among the couple of dozen people expected to face criminal charges in two separate illegal gambling-related cases.

[thegeneral 3,542]

They are talking about this on Dan Patrick show this morn. Been getting ready so missing pieces and they don’t know anything but high stakes home poker game was being mentioned. 

[patweisers44 864]

Really curious to see what this involves. Sports betting, high stakes poker games, points shaving. Is it all NBA related? 

Story is pretty vague right now. Will be following. 

[The Elevator Killer 710]

High stakes poker games run by the mob. I can see where that could lead to game fixing. 

[Fnord 2,484]

Dayum. I heard about Rozier, but not Billups. If there's a coach involved, there could be some serious fireworks.

[patweisers44 864]

2 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said:

High stakes poker games run by the mob. I can see where that could lead to game fixing. 

There were rumors of this same thing with the pistons back in the Isiah Thomas era

[thegeneral 3,542]

Of the all the sports shaving points has to be the easiest in basketball. Can also come at it with fouls / refs which we have already seen. 

[Strike 5,969]

This is a big deal here in Denver because Billups is a legend here.  Waiting on details but if true gonna be devastating here.  

[supermike80 2,064]

Wow.....Big time WOW

[thegeneral 3,542]

Tangent off this in my state you can’t even use DraftKings. Have to go to a casino to sports bet.

Was in Columbus Ohio for work a couple weeks back and they straight up had DraftKings bars which I thought was a bit intense

I love betting and don’t have issue with gambling but it being promoted that openly did just seem off to me. 

[supermike80 2,064]

i Say that prop bets should be banned.

[thegeneral 3,542]

FBI presser now

[thegeneral 3,542]

At the gym and all networks are on. CNN  carrying presser live, ESPN talking about Aaron Rodgers revenge game

[Tree of Knowledge 2,095]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

i Say that prop bets should be banned.

Agree.  Isn’t this what got the Cleveland pitchers?

[supermike80 2,064]

Just now, Tree of Knowledge said:

Agree.  Isn’t this what got the Cleveland pitchers?

Yup.....way too easy to manipulate these

[Tree of Knowledge 2,095]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

At the gym and all networks are on. CNN  carrying presser live, ESPN talking about Aaron Rodgers revenge game

ESPN:  Nothing to see here. LeBron update on the hour.  

[thegeneral 3,542]

8 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

i Say that prop bets should be banned.

These are the easiest to rig…I’d say bust people through tracking unusual bets then bring the hammer down crazy hard instead.

But you do have a problem if are betting big on first pitch is a ball

[thegeneral 3,542]

Just now, Tree of Knowledge said:

ESPN:  Nothing to see here. LeBron update on the hour.  

I mean their guy Pablo Torres is on this story and it’s not like they are news per se, but yeah that they have a 80 gazillion dollar deal does seem a bit comflicty

[Ron_Artest 2,127]

FBI says the Toronto Rangers are involved.

:metalhelmet:

[Tree of Knowledge 2,095]

Maybe these NBA guys will resurface in minor league baseball?

[thegeneral 3,542]

ESPN now on it. TV is on subtitles so missed part but they mentioned unusual bets placed in Rozier under in a game. He was pulled early. He was in this poker game…Yikes! 

[thegeneral 3,542]

30 people arrested. I’ve watched a lot of mob movies…who sings first!

[jerryskids 7,048]

I'm sure the NBA is thrilled this is all coming out during opening week.

[Tree of Knowledge 2,095]

Giving the mafia inside information they used to place bets.   

[Tree of Knowledge 2,095]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

30 people arrested. I’ve watched a lot of mob movies…who sings first!

Many people heard Layla in the background during the arrests 

[thegeneral 3,542]

2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Many people heard Layla in the background during the arrests 

Yep. Chauncey was found reaching into his Viking Freezer and not in

[shadrap 252]

20 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

These are the easiest to rig…I’d say bust people through tracking unusual bets then bring the hammer down crazy hard instead.

But you do have a problem if are betting big on first pitch is a ball

Ha, I bet a 3 way parlay on a Super Bowl with the first leg being the coin flip.  

[The Elevator Killer 710]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

30 people arrested. I’ve watched a lot of mob movies…who sings first!

First? It's going to be like a chorus from Jesus Christ Superstar. "What's the buzz? Tell me what's a happening."

[Tree of Knowledge 2,095]

1 minute ago, The Elevator Killer said:

First? It's going to be like a chorus from Jesus Christ Superstar. "What's the buzz? Tell me what's a happening."

They’ve had people singing for a while.  

[thegeneral 3,542]

Operation was called “Nothing But Net”

[Tree of Knowledge 2,095]

The rigged poker games.   That was some elaborate scams.  

[thegeneral 3,542]

7 minutes ago, shadrap said:

Ha, I bet a 3 way parlay on a Super Bowl with the first leg being the coin flip.  

nice!

I do a Super Bowl sports sheet with like 20 50/50 bets like this so everyone can play.

If you find yourself laying a grand on the first pitch of Jesus Bazardo in the 7th inning in August may have a problem!

[thegeneral 3,542]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The rigged poker games.   That was some elaborate scams.  

X-ray tables!

[GobbleDog 1,010]

29 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

i Say that prop bets should be banned.

That'd create a lot more action among illegal bookmakers.  The best way to reduce fixing is for legal bookmakers to spot and report unusual betting patterns. That's probably how the current situation came to light. 

Strange story as top level sports fixing is so rare - although this will wrongly make people believe it's rampant.  Most sports fixing occurs in low-level sports - particularly tennis. Don't make squat, crazy expenses, and easy to get away with. Don't even have to throw a game, just say the first set, or lose first break, or numerous other options other than the final outcome. Enough players have admitted as much. 

[Fnord 2,484]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'm sure the NBA is thrilled this is all coming out during opening week.

Somewhere David Stern and Michael Jordan are sitting around, puffing cigars and sipping whiskey, laughing their asses off about how easy it was to get away with this crap in the old days.

[MikeMatt 341]

They are saying not so nice things about my Italian people. 
 

[nobody 2,865]

Word to the wise, you can't fix bets that don't get a lot of action.  It's too easy to spot unusual volume.

You need wagers that have enough handle to hide your bet amount.

[The Elevator Killer 710]

2 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

They are saying not so nice things about my Italian people. 
 

There goes Columbus Day and the Rocky statue. 

[supermike80 2,064]

13 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

That'd create a lot more action among illegal bookmakers.  The best way to reduce fixing is for legal bookmakers to spot and report unusual betting patterns. That's probably how the current situation came to light. 

Strange story as top level sports fixing is so rare - although this will wrongly make people believe it's rampant.  Most sports fixing occurs in low-level sports - particularly tennis. Don't make squat, crazy expenses, and easy to get away with. Don't even have to throw a game, just say the first set, or lose first break, or numerous other options other than the final outcome. Enough players have admitted as much. 

Fair point.  Suppose we wouldnt have heard of this otherwise

[thegeneral 3,542]

7 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

They are saying not so nice things about my Italian people. 
 

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