Dick Cheney Won’t Be Down For Breakfast

[HellToupee 2,194]

RIP
 

JUST IN - Cheney, the 46th vice president of U.S. has died aged 84.

Former Vice President Cheney dead at age 84

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 Published Nov. 4, 2025, 6:24 a.m. ET

Former Vice President Cheney died late Monday. He was 84.

“His beloved wife of 61 years, Lynne, his daughters, Liz and Mary, and other family members were with him as he passed,” his family said in a statement.

 

“The former Vice President died due to complications of pneumonia and cardiac and vascular disease.

[MikeMatt 366]

Who ?

[Voltaire 5,478]

Make sure his voter registration gets cancelled.

[MDC 7,866]

Garbage human. 

[The Real timschochet 7,405]

Classy posts. 
 

A controversial person for sure. I don’t think he was an evil man. I also believe he was a patriot. His daughter is one as well. 

[HellToupee 2,194]

24 minutes ago, MikeMatt said:

Who ?

Longtime coach of Temple basketball 

[HellToupee 2,194]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

also believe he was a patriot. His daughter is one as well. 

This is your typical look at me too cool for school post. Cheney leaves behind a very complicated legacy of good/bad. Your post is nothing more than  trolling of both sides. You’re going to make a definitive statement and school us by going against the grain….or maybe I give you too much credit and just your TDS kicking in because for some reason you bring LC into this

[Tree of Knowledge 2,112]

Flags at all military industrial complex headquarters will be at half staff until further notice.  

[The Real timschochet 7,405]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

This is your typical look at me too cool for school post. Cheney leaves behind a very complicated legacy of good/bad. Your post is nothing more than  trolling of both sides. You’re going to make a definitive statement and school us by going against the grain….or maybe I give you too much credit and just your TDS kicking in because for some reason you bring LC into this

No attempt to troll. I offered an honest opinion. He was a fascinating guy, and I think he was a patriot. I brought up his daughter because I admire her. I think your thread title is pretty classless. 

[Voltaire 5,478]

4 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

This is your typical look at me too cool for school post. Cheney leaves behind a very complicated legacy of good/bad. Your post is nothing more than  trolling of both sides. You’re going to make a definitive statement and school us by going against the grain….or maybe I give you too much credit and just your TDS kicking in because for some reason you bring LC into this

He hasn't done anything good since the early 90s. He's a POS and was a driving force for many American deaths in pointless war.

[The Real timschochet 7,405]

5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

He hasn't done anything good since the early 90s. He's a POS and was a driving force for many American deaths in pointless war.

From 2006: “Cheneys donate millions in charity.” 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2006/04/18/cheneys-donate-millions-in-charity-span-classbankheadscholarship-fund-heart-center-benefitspan/3643c114-7ad5-4aed-afcc-6f096d03f4dd/

He helped out a lot of people, especially in his native state of Wyoming. I don’t think that’s POS behavior. 

I think he was wrong about the Iraq War. When people like me said so at the time many of the same folks who now support Donald Trump called us unpatriotic. Nowadays they pretend to have never supported it. 20 years from now they will pretend to have never supported Trump either. 

[HellToupee 2,194]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think your thread title is pretty classless. 

It means he died. It’s literary device , a euphemism . Has nothing to do with classy or classless 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,112]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

From 2006: “Cheneys donate millions in charity.” 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2006/04/18/cheneys-donate-millions-in-charity-span-classbankheadscholarship-fund-heart-center-benefitspan/3643c114-7ad5-4aed-afcc-6f096d03f4dd/

He helped out a lot of people, especially in his native state of Wyoming. I don’t think that’s POS behavior. 

I think he was wrong about the Iraq War. When people like me said so at the time many of the same folks who now support Donald Trump called us unpatriotic. Nowadays they pretend to have never supported it. 20 years from now they will pretend to have never supported Trump either. 

It was an easier to lie to us in the days before social media and information became more easily accessible. 
 

Hopefully, a Trump is still in office in 20 years or at least Trump AI is running our country.   

[MDC 7,866]

38 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Classy posts. 
 

A controversial person for sure. I don’t think he was an evil man. I also believe he was a patriot. His daughter is one as well. 

Cheney among others lied us into a war of choice that resulted in tens of thousands of soldiers dead, many more civilians dead, trillion$ down the toilet, and a shift toward surveillance, illegal detention and torture, drone strikes etc.

Fock him. 

[BrahmaBulls 919]

50 minutes ago, MDC said:

Garbage human. 

Does every thread have to be about Gutter?

[Voltaire 5,478]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

From 2006: “Cheneys donate millions in charity.” 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2006/04/18/cheneys-donate-millions-in-charity-span-classbankheadscholarship-fund-heart-center-benefitspan/3643c114-7ad5-4aed-afcc-6f096d03f4dd/

He helped out a lot of people, especially in his native state of Wyoming. I don’t think that’s POS behavior. 

I think he was wrong about the Iraq War. When people like me said so at the time many of the same folks who now support Donald Trump called us unpatriotic. Nowadays they pretend to have never supported it. 20 years from now they will pretend to have never supported Trump either. 

 

Well you couldn't be more wrong about me and many others. I voted for Gore, Kerry, and the black Satan twice before I voted for the Orange Satan. That was largely a referendum on Cheney as W was too stupid to govern.

Easily the most compelling part of Trump's 2016 campaign was going on the offensive against Jeb! on the debate stage over his brother and by implication the Cheneys for their role in that stupid war.

[squistion 2,505]

44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Classy posts. 
 

A controversial person for sure. I don’t think he was an evil man. I also believe he was a patriot. His daughter is one as well. 

Well, he thought of himself as one, although I doubt I would agree with that.

I will give him credit for saying this:

 

[HellToupee 2,194]

10 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

It was an easier to lie to us in the days before social media and information became more easily accessible. 
 

Hopefully, a Trump is still in office in 20 years or at least Trump AI is running our country.   

Because of Elon and Donald the truth is easier to find in 2025

[listen2me 23 1,951]

37 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

No attempt to troll. I offered an honest opinion. He was a fascinating guy, and I think he was a patriot. I brought up his daughter because I admire her. I think your thread title is pretty classless. 

Look at how ridiculous Tim is.  This guy is all uptight about THIS thread title?  

How did our society turn into this?  It is pathetic how sensitive this country has become.  

[cmh6476 1,123]

I got to meet him, drove a minivan in the motorcade when he came to town for people who were part of the welcoming committee.  After his remarks they gave us a chance to meet him, and I got my picture shaking his hand but it was more awkward silence as I didn't know what to say when he stared at me, waiting for me to say something 

 

[thegeneral 3,582]

Not a good start to his political career. Good finish.

Terrible shot.

RIP

[HellToupee 2,194]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Well, he thought of himself as one, although I doubt I would agree with that.

I will give him credit for saying this:

 

Another TDSer. Would play a tune on Beelzebub’s skin flute  if Trump was against it. Total lost soul. Pity the old timer

[HellToupee 2,194]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Not a good start to his political career. Good finish.

Terrible shot.

RIP

All is forgiven as long as it’s OMB at the end of the day. The enemy of my enemy etc

[thegeneral 3,582]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

Another TDSer. Would play a tune on Beelzebub’s skin flute  if Trump was against it. Total lost soul. Pity the old timer

Everything Darth Cheney said there was spot on. One of his highlights.

[MDC 7,866]

7 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Another TDSer. Would play a tune on Beelzebub’s skin flute  if Trump was against it. 

Impossible: Trump is Beelzebub’s skin flute.  

[thegeneral 3,582]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

All is forgiven as long as it’s OMB at the end of the day. The enemy of my enemy etc

The guy was wrong about a lot. Did a lot of focked up things. Also got some stuff right. 

[HellToupee 2,194]

10 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

I got to meet him, drove a minivan in the motorcade when he came to town for people who were part of the welcoming committee.  After his remarks they gave us a chance to meet him, and I got my picture shaking his hand but it was more awkward silence as I didn't know what to say when he stared at me, waiting for me to say something 

 

I was at an event when Mitt Romney was governor of MA. There was about 10 of us with him and when his staffer left the room Mitt went silent, almost willed himself invisible, Wade aBoggs style. Conversely I met Deval Patrick who I thought was going to be standoffish but he was totally different than his political persona. Good guy

[HellToupee 2,194]

 

“ Cheney, the Iraq War, and Halliburton: A Fact-Checked Examination

The narrative that Cheney, as Vice President under George W. Bush, played a central role in promoting flawed intelligence about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) to justify the 2003 invasion—and subsequently benefited financially through ties to Halliburton—has been a persistent point of contention. 

This report draws on historical records, government disclosures, and academic studies to assess the key claims. 

While Cheney's defenders argue he acted on the best available intelligence at the time, critics, including Senate investigations and declassified documents, have highlighted the selective use of evidence and extreme conflicts of interest. 

The human toll of the war, including hundreds of thousands of deaths, underscores the stakes. Below, I break it down step by step.

1. Cheney's Role in Promoting WMD Claims

Cheney, who served as Secretary of Defense during the 1991 Gulf War, was a key architect of the 2003 Iraq invasion strategy. As Vice President, he was instrumental in shaping public and congressional support by emphasizing Iraq's alleged WMD programs, despite internal intelligence doubts.

Key Statements and Actions: In a January 2002 speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Cheney warned that Iraq was aggressively pursuing nuclear weapons and had "reconstituted nuclear weapons." He made over 20 public appearances in the lead-up to the war, reiterating these claims, including a pivotal August 2002 speech asserting that "there is no doubt" Saddam Hussein had WMDs and was amassing them to use against the U.S. or allies. 

Declassified CIA documents show Cheney personally pressed intelligence analysts for evidence, such as inquiring about unverified reports of Iraq seeking uranium from Niger in February 2002. This contributed to the infamous "16 words" in Bush's 2003 State of the Union address, which were later discredited.

Flaws in Intelligence: Post-invasion investigations, like the 2004 Senate Intelligence Committee report and the 2005 Robb-Silberman Commission, found no stockpiles of WMDs and criticized the administration for overstating threats based on cherry-picked or unreliable sources (e.g., defector Curveball's fabricated accounts). 

Cheney defended the claims as late as 2008, stating Iraq had "every intention" of resuming WMD programs, but admitted in his 2011 memoir that the absence of WMDs was a "disappointment." 

Critics, including historians, argue this was deliberate misinformation to build war support, given pre-9/11 planning documents like the 2002 Downing Street Memo, which noted intelligence was being "fixed around the policy."

Balance: Bush administration officials, including Cheney, maintained they relied on a consensus from 16 intelligence agencies, though later reviews showed dissenting views were totally and purposely sidelined. 

No evidence of outright forgery by Cheney has emerged, but his aggressive advocacy and pressure on analysts amplified unverified claims.

In short, while not solely "selling lies," Cheney's rhetoric was central to the WMD narrative that justified the war, later proven false.

2. Halliburton's No-Bid Contracts for Iraq Reconstruction

Before becoming Vice President in 2001, Cheney was CEO of Halliburton (1995–2000), the world's largest oilfield services company. 

Under his leadership, its revenue grew from $4.3 billion to $12 billion. Post-invasion, Halliburton's subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR) secured lucrative reconstruction deals, many without competitive bidding—a process critics tied to Cheney's influence.

Contract Details: In late 2002, the Army Corps of Engineers awarded KBR a no-bid "indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity" contract (LOGCAP III) for logistics support in Iraq, with a potential value of $7 billion for oil infrastructure restoration alone. This was an extension of a pre-invasion 2001 deal worth ~$1 billion. By 2003, additional no-bid awards pushed totals higher: $1.7 billion for initial work, ballooning to $10.8 billion across five contracts by 2012. A 2013 report estimated Halliburton received $39.5 billion in Iraq-related federal contracts over the decade, including reconstruction, fuel supply, and base operations—often without full bidding due to urgency claims. Overall, U.S. contractors pocketed at least $138 billion from Iraq/Afghanistan work, with Halliburton as the top beneficiary.

Controversies: Whistleblowers like Bunnatine Greenhouse (Corps procurement executive) alleged improper influence, testifying that Cheney loyalists waived bidding rules. 

Audits found overcharges, like $61 million in fuel costs, leading to a 2004 criminal probe (no charges filed). 

A 2003 Global Policy Forum analysis noted Halliburton had secured over $600 million by mid-year, far outpacing competitors.

Balance: After pressure from the White House, the Pentagon defended no-bid awards as necessary for rapid post-invasion stabilization, and Halliburton argued contracts followed standard procedures. However, a 2004 Government Accountability Office report confirmed limited competition, raising conflict-of-interest flags given Cheney's ties.

The $39.5 billion figure aligns with comprehensive tallies, confirming substantial no-bid gains for Halliburton amid Iraq's destruction.

Claims that Cheney's "net worth soared" due to Halliburton stock holdings require nuance: He did not retain direct stock ownership upon entering office to avoid conflicts, but benefited from deferred compensation and options tied to company performance.

Deferred Compensation and Options: Cheney left Halliburton with a severance package including $34–36 million in deferred payments, stock options for 433,333 shares (exercisable at market prices from grant dates), and an annual deferred salary of ~$200,000–$1 million. 

While VP, he received $398,548 in such payments by 2004, insulated from daily stock fluctuations via an insurance policy guaranteeing fixed annual payouts ($150,000–$200,000). His 2001 tax return disclosed a $1.45 million bonus.

Stock Performance Link: Halliburton's stock rose ~3,000% in the year following the invasion (from ~$8 to over $250 by 2010, adjusted for splits), boosting the value of Cheney's unexercised options from ~$250,000 to potentially $8–10 million. 

He held these until at least 2003, per disclosures, and cashed out portions post-VP (e.g., $2.3 million in 2005). His net worth grew from ~$10–20 million pre-VP to over $90 million by 2012, partly from these assets amid Halliburton's war-fueled boom.

Balance: Ethics filings show Cheney recused himself from Halliburton decisions, and payments were pre-arranged. 

Fact-checkers like PolitiFact rated claims of direct profiteering as "mostly false" due to the deferred structure, but acknowledged indirect benefits from rising stock values.

Cheney profited handsomely, but through mechanisms designed to appear arms-length—though the timing and scale invite scrutiny.

4. The Human Cost: Deaths in Iraq

The invasion and occupation devastated Iraq, with estimates of deaths varying by methodology (e.g., media tallies vs. household surveys). Figures range from 150,000 to ~600,000 violent/excess deaths, plus indirect tolls from disease and infrastructure collapse.

U.S. military deaths: 4,431; wounded: 32,292. These losses fueled the "profited off deaths" critique, as reconstruction contracts like Halliburton's directly followed the chaos.

Conclusion

The evidence substantiates much of the online accusations: Cheney aggressively promoted discredited WMD claims to enable invasion; Halliburton reaped $39.5 billion in largely no-bid contracts from the ensuing destruction; and Cheney personally gained millions via deferred ties as the company's value exploded. 

However, the death toll, while catastrophic, is better estimated in the hundreds of thousands rather than millions. 

This exemplifies war profiteering concerns, echoed in bipartisan probes, though Cheney maintains it was principled action against a threat. For deeper dives, sources like the National Security Archive provide raw documents.”

[thegeneral 3,582]

2 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

 

“ Cheney, the Iraq War, and Halliburton: A Fact-Checked Examination

The narrative that Cheney, as Vice President under George W. Bush, played a central role in promoting flawed intelligence about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) to justify the 2003 invasion—and subsequently benefited financially through ties to Halliburton—has been a persistent point of contention. 

This report draws on historical records, government disclosures, and academic studies to assess the key claims. 

While Cheney's defenders argue he acted on the best available intelligence at the time, critics, including Senate investigations and declassified documents, have highlighted the selective use of evidence and extreme conflicts of interest. 

The human toll of the war, including hundreds of thousands of deaths, underscores the stakes. Below, I break it down step by step.

1. Cheney's Role in Promoting WMD Claims

Cheney, who served as Secretary of Defense during the 1991 Gulf War, was a key architect of the 2003 Iraq invasion strategy. As Vice President, he was instrumental in shaping public and congressional support by emphasizing Iraq's alleged WMD programs, despite internal intelligence doubts.

Key Statements and Actions: In a January 2002 speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Cheney warned that Iraq was aggressively pursuing nuclear weapons and had "reconstituted nuclear weapons." He made over 20 public appearances in the lead-up to the war, reiterating these claims, including a pivotal August 2002 speech asserting that "there is no doubt" Saddam Hussein had WMDs and was amassing them to use against the U.S. or allies. 

Declassified CIA documents show Cheney personally pressed intelligence analysts for evidence, such as inquiring about unverified reports of Iraq seeking uranium from Niger in February 2002. This contributed to the infamous "16 words" in Bush's 2003 State of the Union address, which were later discredited.

Flaws in Intelligence: Post-invasion investigations, like the 2004 Senate Intelligence Committee report and the 2005 Robb-Silberman Commission, found no stockpiles of WMDs and criticized the administration for overstating threats based on cherry-picked or unreliable sources (e.g., defector Curveball's fabricated accounts). 

Cheney defended the claims as late as 2008, stating Iraq had "every intention" of resuming WMD programs, but admitted in his 2011 memoir that the absence of WMDs was a "disappointment." 

Critics, including historians, argue this was deliberate misinformation to build war support, given pre-9/11 planning documents like the 2002 Downing Street Memo, which noted intelligence was being "fixed around the policy."

Balance: Bush administration officials, including Cheney, maintained they relied on a consensus from 16 intelligence agencies, though later reviews showed dissenting views were totally and purposely sidelined. 

No evidence of outright forgery by Cheney has emerged, but his aggressive advocacy and pressure on analysts amplified unverified claims.

In short, while not solely "selling lies," Cheney's rhetoric was central to the WMD narrative that justified the war, later proven false.

2. Halliburton's No-Bid Contracts for Iraq Reconstruction

Before becoming Vice President in 2001, Cheney was CEO of Halliburton (1995–2000), the world's largest oilfield services company. 

Under his leadership, its revenue grew from $4.3 billion to $12 billion. Post-invasion, Halliburton's subsidiary Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR) secured lucrative reconstruction deals, many without competitive bidding—a process critics tied to Cheney's influence.

Contract Details: In late 2002, the Army Corps of Engineers awarded KBR a no-bid "indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity" contract (LOGCAP III) for logistics support in Iraq, with a potential value of $7 billion for oil infrastructure restoration alone. This was an extension of a pre-invasion 2001 deal worth ~$1 billion. By 2003, additional no-bid awards pushed totals higher: $1.7 billion for initial work, ballooning to $10.8 billion across five contracts by 2012. A 2013 report estimated Halliburton received $39.5 billion in Iraq-related federal contracts over the decade, including reconstruction, fuel supply, and base operations—often without full bidding due to urgency claims. Overall, U.S. contractors pocketed at least $138 billion from Iraq/Afghanistan work, with Halliburton as the top beneficiary.

Controversies: Whistleblowers like Bunnatine Greenhouse (Corps procurement executive) alleged improper influence, testifying that Cheney loyalists waived bidding rules. 

Audits found overcharges, like $61 million in fuel costs, leading to a 2004 criminal probe (no charges filed). 

A 2003 Global Policy Forum analysis noted Halliburton had secured over $600 million by mid-year, far outpacing competitors.

Balance: After pressure from the White House, the Pentagon defended no-bid awards as necessary for rapid post-invasion stabilization, and Halliburton argued contracts followed standard procedures. However, a 2004 Government Accountability Office report confirmed limited competition, raising conflict-of-interest flags given Cheney's ties.

The $39.5 billion figure aligns with comprehensive tallies, confirming substantial no-bid gains for Halliburton amid Iraq's destruction.

Claims that Cheney's "net worth soared" due to Halliburton stock holdings require nuance: He did not retain direct stock ownership upon entering office to avoid conflicts, but benefited from deferred compensation and options tied to company performance.

Deferred Compensation and Options: Cheney left Halliburton with a severance package including $34–36 million in deferred payments, stock options for 433,333 shares (exercisable at market prices from grant dates), and an annual deferred salary of ~$200,000–$1 million. 

While VP, he received $398,548 in such payments by 2004, insulated from daily stock fluctuations via an insurance policy guaranteeing fixed annual payouts ($150,000–$200,000). His 2001 tax return disclosed a $1.45 million bonus.

Stock Performance Link: Halliburton's stock rose ~3,000% in the year following the invasion (from ~$8 to over $250 by 2010, adjusted for splits), boosting the value of Cheney's unexercised options from ~$250,000 to potentially $8–10 million. 

He held these until at least 2003, per disclosures, and cashed out portions post-VP (e.g., $2.3 million in 2005). His net worth grew from ~$10–20 million pre-VP to over $90 million by 2012, partly from these assets amid Halliburton's war-fueled boom.

Balance: Ethics filings show Cheney recused himself from Halliburton decisions, and payments were pre-arranged. 

Fact-checkers like PolitiFact rated claims of direct profiteering as "mostly false" due to the deferred structure, but acknowledged indirect benefits from rising stock values.

Cheney profited handsomely, but through mechanisms designed to appear arms-length—though the timing and scale invite scrutiny.

4. The Human Cost: Deaths in Iraq

The invasion and occupation devastated Iraq, with estimates of deaths varying by methodology (e.g., media tallies vs. household surveys). Figures range from 150,000 to ~600,000 violent/excess deaths, plus indirect tolls from disease and infrastructure collapse.

U.S. military deaths: 4,431; wounded: 32,292. These losses fueled the "profited off deaths" critique, as reconstruction contracts like Halliburton's directly followed the chaos.

Conclusion

The evidence substantiates much of the online accusations: Cheney aggressively promoted discredited WMD claims to enable invasion; Halliburton reaped $39.5 billion in largely no-bid contracts from the ensuing destruction; and Cheney personally gained millions via deferred ties as the company's value exploded. 

However, the death toll, while catastrophic, is better estimated in the hundreds of thousands rather than millions. 

This exemplifies war profiteering concerns, echoed in bipartisan probes, though Cheney maintains it was principled action against a threat. For deeper dives, sources like the National Security Archive provide raw documents.”

Not a good moment for ol’ Dickie.

[HellToupee 2,194]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Not a good moment for ol’ Dickie.

That doesn’t take in account Cheney’s part in the Patriot Act. Something I’ve totally changed my mind on , wasn’t happy Donald renewed it in 2018. Can’t agree 100% with everything 

[thegeneral 3,582]

Just now, HellToupee said:

That doesn’t take in account Cheney’s part in the Patriot Act. Something I’ve totally changed my mind on , wasn’t happy Donald renewed it in 2018. Can’t agree 100% with everything 

If the votes were counted properly in Florida and Gore had won the world would be a much, much different place. Response to 9/11 alone would have us in a completely different place. 

All decided by like 500 votes. Crazy stuff.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,535]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Cheney among others lied us into a war of choice that resulted in tens of thousands of soldiers dead, many more civilians dead, trillion$ down the toilet, and a shift toward surveillance, illegal detention and torture, drone strikes etc.

Fock him. 

Nailed it

[Fnord 2,504]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Cheney among others lied us into a war of choice that resulted in tens of thousands of soldiers dead, many more civilians dead, trillion$ down the toilet, and a shift toward surveillance, illegal detention and torture, drone strikes etc.

Fock him. 

Current admin has us heading down a similar, and potentially MORE disastrous road, supported fully by MAGA, most of which also supported the Bush regime at the time. Now the same guys love to pat themselves on the back for realizing a decade after the rest of us that Cheney was a criminal war monger. "sEe! I CaN cHanGe My mInD AbOuT SomEthINg!"

Try doing it before it's ten years too late, mmkay? Tim's right. In 20 years, those of them still alive will pretend they were never MAGA.

[posty 2,809]

RIP Mr. Vice President...

[BrahmaBulls 919]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Current admin has us heading down a similar, and potentially MORE disastrous road, supported fully by MAGA, most of which also supported the Bush regime at the time. Now the same guys love to pat themselves on the back for realizing a decade after the rest of us that Cheney was a criminal war monger. "sEe! I CaN cHanGe My mInD AbOuT SomEthINg!"

Try doing it before it's ten years too late, mmkay? Tim's right. In 20 years, those of them still alive will pretend they were never MAGA.

  Serious case of TDS

[HellToupee 2,194]

12 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Current admin has us heading down a similar, and potentially MORE disastrous road, supported fully by MAGA, most of which also supported the Bush regime at the time. Now the same guys love to pat themselves on the back for realizing a decade after the rest of us that Cheney was a criminal war monger. "sEe! I CaN cHanGe My mInD AbOuT SomEthINg!"

Try doing it before it's ten years too late, mmkay? Tim's right. In 20 years, those of them still alive will pretend they were never MAGA.

I know right. Only Donald is usually 100% on point and very confident in his decision making 

[thegeneral 3,582]

Just now, HellToupee said:

I know right. Only Donald is usually 100% on point and very confident in his decision making 

He’s pardoning people “he doesn’t know”

[HellToupee 2,194]

13 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

He’s pardoning people “he doesn’t know”

TiT

Trust in Trump

[thegeneral 3,582]

1 minute ago, HellToupee said:

TiT

Trust in Trump

Make sure you buy some Trump Coin and be sure to visit the gift shop!

[HellToupee 2,194]