MDC 8,193 Posted Tuesday at 06:17 PM 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Perhaps you've missed the several hundreds of times it has come up, or the threads I've started about trips there and finding housing, but my youngest daughter lives in Manhattan. Thanks also for the info on the Honduran guy, I hadn't heard! Well, you certainly seem to care less about that than Mamdani’s socialist college club or whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,159 Posted Tuesday at 06:19 PM Mamdani says he’s going to make it affordable for NY’rs to attend the World Cup. In New Jersey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,240 Posted Tuesday at 06:21 PM 1 minute ago, Fnord said: As long as you didn't buy her a brownstone to live in, she's part of the "protected class" right? If I'm going to believe MAGAlogic, that means that since she's young, attending leftist boot camp --errr-- college, and doesn't own any property, she's a Commie. All good! She's 24 and is a technical designer in the fashion industry. But she doesn't own property and is somewhat commie, so you are partially correct. And I'm confident she voted for the failed former rapper. That doesn't mean that I can't recognize the errors of her beliefs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,240 Posted Tuesday at 06:26 PM 8 minutes ago, MDC said: Well, you certainly seem to care less about that than Mamdani’s socialist college club or whatever. Whatabout this Honduran guy?! I'll bring him up to distract from anything that makes my comrades look bad! You've officially become the Seafoam of the Left, here you go: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,193 Posted Tuesday at 06:30 PM 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: Whatabout this Honduran guy?! I'll bring him up to distract from anything that makes my comrades look bad! You've officially become the Seafoam of the Left, here you go: Thanks. You’ve become the Gutterboy of the right. But replace TDS for MDS. REeeeee!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,240 Posted Tuesday at 06:49 PM 16 minutes ago, MDC said: Thanks. You’ve become the Gutterboy of the right. But replace TDS for MDS. REeeeee!!! Thanks! Because bringing up Mamdani's collectivist property appointment in the Mamdani thread is MDS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,684 Posted Tuesday at 06:56 PM 31 minutes ago, jerryskids said: She's 24 and is a technical designer in the fashion industry. But she doesn't own property and is somewhat commie, so you are partially correct. And I'm confident she voted for the failed former rapper. That doesn't mean that I can't recognize the errors of her beliefs. Damn! A woman mixing STEM and fashion? Living in NYC? Sheee-it, she might as well be Stalin's concubine! If I were MAGA I'd probably make a crack about how her parents went wrong somewhere, but I'm not, and you should be damn proud! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,240 Posted Tuesday at 07:13 PM 5 minutes ago, Fnord said: Damn! A woman mixing STEM and fashion? Living in NYC? Sheee-it, she might as well be Stalin's concubine! If I were MAGA I'd probably make a crack about how her parents went wrong somewhere, but I'm not, and you should be damn proud! Funny you mention STEM. I'm an engineer, my wife is one, my other two kids are... but the youngest always proudly said "I'm different than you all!" And, she did have an eye for fashion and color. But she also had a practical, engineer-ish side. For instnace, one day when she was young, as I was driving her to a dance class, she asked how the dance studio makes money. Anyway, she pursued the fashion degree, and I was afraid she was going to end up not using it, or working on the sales floor at a clothing store. But she got into the technical side of things, went to NY, got a contract gig, then they hired her full time. As you might imagine, older people in the fashion industry are technology idiots, so the world is her oyster. She is becoming proficient at 3D patterning, and I'm trying to convince her to look into AI for fashion. That is all to say that I occasionally call her a "fashion engineer" when we speak, to troll her a little about her not being all that different from us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,961 Posted Tuesday at 07:19 PM 1 hour ago, MDC said: I own a home that’s not in NYC. I have a lot of family there though. I’ll ask if they’re worried about Mamdani stealing their homes. lol As long as they don't have rental properties, I'm sure they're safe. I sold a home and got absolutely extorted by the city for fees. I'm not even exaggerating. I eventually paid someone off to stop the madness. It's a pretty easy recipe. Make up violations, and they can do whatever they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,193 Posted Tuesday at 07:25 PM 1 minute ago, nobody said: As long as they don't have rental properties, I'm sure they're safe. I sold a home and got absolutely extorted by the city for fees. I'm not even exaggerating. I eventually paid someone off to stop the madness. It's a pretty easy recipe. Make up violations, and they can do whatever they want. I’m pretty sure they’re talking about implementing rent controls, not seizing properties by eminent domain or whatever. Does any Geek even live in NYC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,240 Posted Tuesday at 07:38 PM 8 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m pretty sure they’re talking about implementing rent controls, not seizing properties by eminent domain or whatever. Does any Geek even live in NYC? You didn't watch the X video I posted. I'm not surprised, especially given your strong objection to my MDS on this subject. Perhaps you can go back and watch it, and give us your interpretation of her meaning of "shared equity" regarding property. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,961 Posted Tuesday at 07:46 PM 18 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m pretty sure they’re talking about implementing rent controls, not seizing properties by eminent domain or whatever. Does any Geek even live in NYC? She had an interview where she specifically said they are going to be looking to take property. She laid out the plan. She wants tenants to organize and complain about the building which will allow the city to come in and violate the landlord to the death until they'll eventually seize the property. Now, she may not be able to execute on it, but she laid out her intent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,159 Posted Tuesday at 07:48 PM The city has seized many buildings in the past and turned them over to the NYCHA. They are called turn keys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,193 Posted Tuesday at 07:49 PM 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: You didn't watch the X video I posted. I'm not surprised, especially given your strong objection to my MDS on this subject. Perhaps you can go back and watch it, and give us your interpretation of her meaning of "shared equity" regarding property. I did watch it. I think she’s arguing that property, being at a minimum and exceptionally high in NY, is a public interest and should be subject to strict price controls. If Comrade Mamdani begins seizing private property I’ll admit that I was wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 438 Posted Tuesday at 07:49 PM 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Mamdani says he’s going to make it affordable for NY’rs to attend the World Cup. In New Jersey. When politicians get involved in ticketing it always becomes more monopolistic and expensive. The FTC suits against Ticketmaster are only going to drive prices higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,193 Posted Tuesday at 07:51 PM 3 minutes ago, nobody said: She had an interview where she specifically said they are going to be looking to take property. She laid out the plan. She wants tenants to organize and complain about the building which will allow the city to come in and violate the landlord to the death until they'll eventually seize the property. Now, she may not be able to execute on it, but she laid out her intent. That wasn’t in the clip Jerry posted. I’d have to read it in context. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,383 Posted Tuesday at 08:16 PM 20 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: When politicians get involved in ticketing it always becomes more monopolistic and expensive. The FTC suits against Ticketmaster are only going to drive prices higher. LOL the monopoly they have is ridiculous. That never would have happened without the lax regulators letting them buy up all their competitors. I mean, it’s the textbook example of what happens when you have no controls on capitalists. We need free markets, but without guardrails you get stuff that insane ripoff machine. Even the pro-business Trump regime has kept the anti-trust lawsuit against these crooks going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,961 Posted Tuesday at 08:21 PM 29 minutes ago, MDC said: That wasn’t in the clip Jerry posted. I’d have to read it in context. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,383 Posted Tuesday at 08:23 PM 2 minutes ago, nobody said: Getting rid of slumlords seems like a good thing. And it’s not easy; they often try in DC but those fockers who won’t spend a dime to fix a leaky roof can find oodles of money to lawyer up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,193 Posted Tuesday at 08:29 PM 5 minutes ago, nobody said: Thank you. My guess is this isn’t a new thing, it’s just not enforced. For example here in Philly is a property is declared abandoned the city can claim it. But like @dogcows said it takes time and the process is murder, because the city doesn’t want to be on the hook for upkeep derelict buildings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,961 Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM 3 minutes ago, dogcows said: Getting rid of slumlords seems like a good thing. And it’s not easy; they often try in DC but those fockers who won’t spend a dime to fix a leaky roof can find oodles of money to lawyer up. I don't disagree with the sentiment, but I saw with my own two eyes during covid that when the local governments decide they want to do something, they'll weaponize policy. This lady is on record as saying home ownership is rooted in white supremacy and classism and "we can't have a society rooted in racism or classism " So this idealogue that thinks it's racist to own a home... Do we think she'll ensure landlords are given fair inspections? That's rhetorical. She won't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 362 Posted Tuesday at 08:33 PM She straight up said she wants to see the white middle class impoverished. She's not just a radical ideologue (which she clearly is), but she has open malice. I'm glad Michelle Tandler had a hunch that Mamdani would give her a role and the foresight to screenshot her X posts before she deleted her account. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,098 Posted Tuesday at 08:34 PM Typical libs - it's ok to take someone's property as long as it's not mine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,383 Posted Tuesday at 08:35 PM 2 minutes ago, nobody said: I don't disagree with the sentiment, but I saw with my own two eyes during covid that when the local governments decide they want to do something, they'll weaponize policy. This lady is on record as saying home ownership is rooted in white supremacy and classism and "we can't have a society rooted in racism or classism " So this idealogue that thinks it's racist to own a home... Do we think she'll ensure landlords are given fair inspections? That's rhetorical. She won't There’s gonna be push and pull. If the government is too lax, it will suck for renters. If they are too draconian, it opens the door for corrupt inspectors taking bribes to grease the wheels. Hopefully they find a happy medium; I wouldn’t get too worked up over this woman. She’s gonna try and make things tougher for landlords; there will be others pushing the other way and we’ll end up somewhere in the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,961 Posted Tuesday at 08:37 PM The California government is basically stealing a bunch of property from the victims of the Palisades fire. They won't release permits to let them rebuild so they all have to sell for a discount just to move on. Now if I was an investor with friends in government... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,159 Posted Tuesday at 08:38 PM Reeeee! You don’t live there!!!! So don’t comment on the outright racism! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 362 Posted Tuesday at 08:38 PM Excellent post from NYC councilmember Vickie Paladino: Notice how they never talk about NYCHA being poorly maintained. The worst slums in the city are run by the government. But you never hear them talk about that. Because they don't actually care about improving anything at all, they're interested in developing a pretense for seizing private property. That's all ANY of this is about. If they REALLY were interested in building some kind of good faith and trust around their plans for housing socialization, the FIRST thing they'd be doing is getting NYCHA into shape. They'd be focused like a laser on it, in fact. Fixing NYCHA by making it livable, safe, and efficiently managed would go a very long way towards the argument that the city can be trusted with expanding public housing. There would be some credibility behind their performative outrage about 'slumlords' if our city government wasn't the biggest slumlord itself. But they're not doing that. Because they don't care. And they're not capable even if they did care. NYCHA can rot, because it's already in public hands so there's no more power to be extracted from it. Instead they're simply constructing a rationale to go after private property for no other reason than the fact that they don't think private property should exist. That's it, that's all. And once they've seized the private property and 'socialized' it? Well, then it can rot too, just like NYCHA. Because the point was always the seizure, not improving conditions for anyone. And magically, the outrage over poor living conditions for these properties will vanish too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 438 Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM 9 minutes ago, dogcows said: LOL the monopoly they have is ridiculous. That never would have happened without the lax regulators letting them buy up all their competitors. I mean, it’s the textbook example of what happens when you have no controls on capitalists. We need free markets, but without guardrails you get stuff that insane ripoff machine. Even the pro-business Trump regime has kept the anti-trust lawsuit against these crooks going. That's not really what the nuts and bolts of the FTC suit are about you have it kind of backwards. The FTC suit I believe to be anti-capitalist because it's end result would limit resale and open markets. These actions actually increase the prices of tickets on the market. I have my own issues with Ticketmaster from my company's perspective but a lot of this is scapegoating them into full blame when the truth is they just have some issues and will do whatever it takes to maintain their market position. Ticketmaster is definitely high on fees but what they are doing with the FTC is taking out individuals with multiple accounts in an effort to allow the "rightsholders" (teams and artists) to limit resale. Well, when that is allowed the promoters or teams/artists become the resellers under TM premium packages or they send tickets only to their consolidated resale partners. By limiting the tickets that can be bought by individuals, whether brokers or general public, the artists and teams can dictate resale volumes and terms and force prices higher. These silly 10% cap on resale prices that some states, specifically in New England, have enacted is only going to drive prices even higher because it allows the supplier to choke off and hide what is really available at any given time. Since the team/promoter sets face value, they can always just change that so they can get around the law while you the consumer cannot. Often times Ticketmaster doesn't show you what is truly available in totality either. That's not a Ticketmaster choice, just like Ticketmaster doesn't mind resale, but they block it if the team/artist tells them to in order to keep their business. Ticketmaster doesn't have nearly the monopoly it used to on the primary with AXS and more specifically Seatgeek gaining larger market share. When it comes to pricing though, most events end up selling below original face values, if you limit resale and enforce price caps and floors, those last minute deals you can find would cease. It's easy to point to the 5-10% of events that explode to 2-3x face and say that's bad, but nobody considers the $250 face value ticket they paid $50 for to go see their favorite team on a Thursday night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 362 Posted Tuesday at 08:41 PM She's mental: https://x.com/michelletandler/status/2008300007049380049/photo/1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,695 Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Zohran Mamdani Faces Backlash as Bus Fares Rise in New York City Free transportation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,961 Posted Tuesday at 08:56 PM 14 minutes ago, naomi said: She's mental: https://x.com/michelletandler/status/2008300007049380049/photo/1 MDC and dogcows don't see an issue with this person having influence over housing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 362 Posted Tuesday at 09:25 PM Cea Weaver believes private property ownership is immoral. So, the alternative to it is collective property ownership. When market incentives become null, because there is no market, quality decreases. It may not be immediate, as there is a pool of redistributed (coercively taken) funds at hand to manage the resources initially. But the trend is necessarily the same. Central planners don't have the ability to effectively incorporate insight that exists at the level of those impacted by their plans. They do sometimes try, but it's always pitiful in comparison to a truly free market at work, where people engage in exchange exclusively voluntarily. In this realm, both sides discern a benefit to the exchange, or it would never happen. All those mutually beneficial exchanges illustrate the needs and desires of people/communities amazingly well. Step in to manage that human activity and you distort critical signals. You dis-serve people. In final stages, those running these experiments inhabit the plundered nice places for themselves, despite their class conscious rhetoric. They have parasitic mentalities. At the root, their opposites are not selfish and greedy people. Their opposites are productive people who add value. Some might think, Well, what's the harm, really? At best her directions will serve as a useful and good counterbalance to predatory landlords. The harm is putting someone who seriously believes private property ownership is immoral into a place of authority within the system. Even if she can't make her ultimate wishes comes true, her guidance is not going to be fit to purpose, within the system. To the extent the system has flaws, it's where people harness government (which is a toolshed of coercion, fundamentally) to serve their interests. It's not the market on its own that leaves people in the cold. The defining factor of leverage that allows for abuses is policy wielded in a manner that arbitrarily determines winners and losers. This is some kind of 101 type analysis I realize. But it seems like some people really need it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 848 Posted Tuesday at 09:40 PM 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: Whatabout this Honduran guy?! I'll bring him up to distract from anything that makes my comrades look bad! Honduran President. Hernandez indictment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,240 Posted Tuesday at 09:46 PM 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Honduran President. Hernandez indictment. No, I know about him. The sad thing is that MDC brings him up in every thread whenever the discussion goes against the Left. Mamdani appoints a communist collectivist Tenant director? Oh yeah, well Trump pardoned the Honduran President! That's why I called him the Leftist Seafoam and posted a video of Biden doing creepy stuff, which Seafoam often does in similar irrelevant fashion. HTH 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,193 Posted Tuesday at 09:56 PM 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: No, I know about him. The sad thing is that MDC brings him up in every thread whenever the discussion goes against the Left. Mamdani appoints a communist collectivist Tenant director? Oh yeah, well Trump pardoned the Honduran President! That's why I called him the Leftist Seafoam and posted a video of Biden doing creepy stuff, which Seafoam often does in similar irrelevant fashion. HTH Calm down Jer. In a few years you’ll see that NYC will be fine even with a socialist, Jew-hating Muslim theocrat at the helm. In the meantime, maybe there’s a topical ointment for your MDS? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,159 Posted Tuesday at 10:00 PM Having spent more time than I cared for in the projects of NYC, I don’t know if my favorite part of them were the chicken bones on the lobby floor or the piss in the elevator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,537 Posted Tuesday at 10:11 PM 1 hour ago, nobody said: MDC and dogcows don't see an issue with this person having influence over housing. Neither do I. White New Yorker voters richly deserve her. They should be paying her reparations (and hopefully soon will be). Mamdani will either cure them of their stupidity or make them miserable. Either outcomes is acceptable and it'll be entertaining watching it too. Trump's been winning so much since New Years Day, when Mamdani got sworn in, plus I'm always so busy. Consequently, I've not been able to keep up with the fun and exciting changes Mamdani is bringing New York. But more idently politics and more white liberal guilt shaming is in order. 92.5% of the people there voted for either him or Cuomo, so who cares what happens to these people? Not I. I want more. Turn it to 11. We need a reminder of who these people are and disgusting white New York liberals are the perfect canaries in the coal mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,240 Posted Tuesday at 11:28 PM 1 hour ago, MDC said: Calm down Jer. In a few years you’ll see that NYC will be fine even with a socialist, Jew-hating Muslim theocrat at the helm. In the meantime, maybe there’s a topical ointment for your MDS? More MDS, in a Mamdani thread! REEEEeeeeee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,383 Posted Tuesday at 11:43 PM All the MAGA fans are mad about Mamdani supposedly giving property away. Meanwhile, they are letting him live in their heads rent-free! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 2,695 Posted Tuesday at 11:51 PM 7 minutes ago, dogcows said: Mamdani supposedly giving property away. He just raised Subway fares on Day 4 What happened to FREE TRANSPORTATION? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites