Rock & Roll HOF...why?

[listen2me 23 1,977]

Why is Pantera not in the rock and roll HOF?  Literally one of most influential bands in that era.   Elite guitarist in Dimebag.  Pioneers of "groove metal".  

Any BS act gets in.  Why not these guys??

[The Elevator Killer 752]

Happy Birthday Elvis!

[Horseman 2,826]

Because they are still going.  In addition to the 25 year rule they judge longevity and body of achievement.  Ozzy, a slam dunk for example, wasn't put in until a few months before he died because he never could quit.  While then defunct Sabbath was in almost 20 years earlier.  

That's and they keep going pop.  

Agree they should get in.  Eventually.  

[Horseman 2,826]

That new Ozzy doc on Paramount+ is pretty damn good, especially if you're not familiar with his last years.   

[SUXBNME 1,638]

Cause they're Cowboys from Hell 

[listen2me 23 1,977]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Because they are still going.  In addition to the 25 year rule they judge longevity and body of achievement.  Ozzy, a slam dunk for example, wasn't put in until a few months before he died because he never could quit.  

That's and they keep going pop.  

Agree they should get in.  Eventually.  

I guess I dont pay attention enough.   Didnt realize you have to be about over to get in.  They have been "over for a bit".  I mean their soul was shot and killed in mid 90s.  

[Horseman 2,826]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I guess I dont pay attention enough.   Dodnt realize you have to be about over to get in.  They have been "over fot a bit".  I mean their soul was shot anf killed in mod 90s.  

That's just my guess.  Not sure what happens when you rotate through quite a bit of members.   Might hurt your chances in the end.  

[listen2me 23 1,977]

Ill put Pantera against any "metal" band for a short prime.  

Ozzy himself said he put one of their albums top 10 all time metal.  

Idk Pantera was focking good.  Dimebag gets rated but is still underrated.   

[posty 2,866]

50 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Because they are still going. 

This isn't the reason as Metallica was enshrined in 2009...

Also, for example, Def Leppard was enshrined in 2019...

[Horseman 2,826]

10 minutes ago, posty said:

This isn't the reason as Metallica was enshrined in 2009...

Also, for example, Def Leppard was enshrined in 2019...

Interesting.  Is it different for individuals I wonder?   The Ozzy doc I mentioned above pretty much said that's why he was on his deathbed at his induction.    

[posty 2,866]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

Interesting.  Is it different for individuals I wonder?   The Ozzy doc I mentioned above pretty much said that's why he was on his deathbed at his induction.    

I have no idea to be honest...  I think it is just 25 years after the first album release, so solo Ozzy wouldn't be eligible after Black Sabbath, due to debut release dates...

[nobody 2,978]

If diddy ain't in, no one should be in  

[Horseman 2,826]

4 minutes ago, posty said:

I have no idea to be honest...  I think it is just 25 years after the first album release, so solo Ozzy wouldn't be eligible after Black Sabbath, due to debut release dates...

Blizzard'o was released in 1980.  

[Horseman 2,826]

I don't think it was the last 2 albums that put Ozzy over the top. I could be wrong, they're phenomenal. .  

[Fnord 2,702]

1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said:

Why is Pantera not in the rock and roll HOF?  Literally one of most influential bands in that era.   Elite guitarist in Dimebag.  Pioneers of "groove metal".  

Any BS act gets in.  Why not these guys??

If you think Pantera should be in, Iron Maiden would like a word.

It sounds like because of Jann Wenner's intense influence over nominations and admissions the process is overly political. Stupid, but predictable. 

 

[Fnord 2,702]

50 minutes ago, posty said:

This isn't the reason as Metallica was enshrined in 2009...

Also, for example, Def Leppard was enshrined in 2019...

AC/DC in 2003, Prince in 2004...

Longevity's a consideration but not a determining factor.

 

[kutulu 1,724]

21 minutes ago, Fnord said:

If you think Pantera should be in, Iron Maiden would like a word.

It sounds like because of Jann Wenner's intense influence over nominations and admissions the process is overly political. Stupid, but predictable. 

 

That's a Vulgar Display of Power

[nobody 2,978]

57 minutes ago, Horseman said:

I don't think it was the last 2 albums that put Ozzy over the top. I could be wrong, they're phenomenal. .  

Eat a bat, automatic entry

[MikeMatt 526]

2 hours ago, Horseman said:

That new Ozzy doc on Paramount+ is pretty damn good, especially if you're not familiar with his last years.   

Yea I read Last Rites and most of it is in that Paramount doc. Which it was good if a fan.  

[Fnord 2,702]

14 minutes ago, kutulu said:

That's a Vulgar Display of Power

Enough to make one want to run to the hills?

[kutulu 1,724]

8 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Enough to make one want to run to the hills?

Or they could Walk

[Fnord 2,702]

Just now, kutulu said:

Or they could Walk

That would make me pretty Fockin hostile. 

Crap, am I supposed to be doing Maiden and you Pantera?

[kutulu 1,724]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

That would make me pretty Fockin hostile. 

Crap, am I supposed to be doing Maiden and you Pantera?

I Don't Know

[FrancieFootball 344]

2 hours ago, Horseman said:

Because they are still going.  In addition to the 25 year rule they judge longevity and body of achievement.  Ozzy, a slam dunk for example, wasn't put in until a few months before he died because he never could quit.  While then defunct Sabbath was in almost 20 years earlier.  

That's and they keep going pop.  

Agree they should get in.  Eventually.  

Baloney. The Foo Fighters got in, and they're still going.

Bob Dylan is in, and he's still going.

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That's some Stupid Hall of Fame comment on your part.

[Fnord 2,702]

1 minute ago, kutulu said:

I Don't Know

Ozzy too?

[nobody 2,978]

Whole thing is a joke anyway if Shark Dance doesn't have a monument.

[listen2me 23 1,977]

I was always the young kid in the neighborhood playing basketball or backyard football with older kids.  Many were more Pantera era than me but that was a bit of the athem then.  So always had a love for them even if im not some huge fan.   One guy who was 5 years older was one of the better athletes in our schools history.  I golf with him now.  He says yea all those good football teams we had Id blast Pantera in our lockroom or bus ride.  

[FrancieFootball 344]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

I was always the young kid in the neighborhood playing basketball or backyard football with older kids.  Many were more Pantera era than me but that was a bit of the athem then.  So always had a love for them even if im not some huge fan.   One guy who was 5 years older was one of the better athletes in our schools history.  I golf with him now.  He says yea all those good football teams we had Id blast Pantera in our lockroom or bus ride.  

I wish the hall would give more recognition to the punk rock that had a massive influence on music, bands such as X, Black Flag, The Germs, etc.

The Replacements and Husker Du belong in. 

Hell, Robert Plant as a solo artist deserves to be in.

[listen2me 23 1,977]

4 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

I wish the hall would give more recognition to the punk rock that had a massive influence on music, bands such as X, Black Flag, The Germs, etc.

The Replacements and Husker Du belong in. 

Hell, Robert Plant as a solo artist deserves to be in.

A lot of good stuff that isnt in so not like Pantera is a travesty.   Just caught me off guard they werent knowing many are.  I mean the 2 founders have died one many years ago. Seems like its not too early for consideration haha.  I dont care about that HOF and we all largely make fun of it but I was surprised.  

[kutulu 1,724]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Ozzy too?

Maybe, idk, it was a shot in the dark

[Fnord 2,702]

13 hours ago, kutulu said:

Maybe, idk, it was a shot in the dark

Shots In The Dark can be Killers. Hopefully no Troopers will Die With Their Boots On.

[The Elevator Killer 752]

16 hours ago, nobody said:

Whole thing is a joke anyway if Shark Dance doesn't have a monument.

Well they did put it in Cleveland sooo. 

[cmh6476 1,174]

19 hours ago, nobody said:

If diddy ain't in, no one should be in  

Needs a little more baby oil before he slides in

[HellToupee 2,364]

19 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

wish the hall would give more recognition to the punk rock that had a massive influence on music, bands such as X, Black Flag, The Germs, etc.

The Replacements and Husker Du belong in. 

Add Mission of Burma  to influential bands . For their work with manipulating tapes alone . Totally agree about Huske and the mats

[Fnord 2,702]

56 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Add Mission of Burma  to influential bands . For their work with manipulating tapes alone . Totally agree about Huske and the mats

Damn @FrancieFootball sounds like an old Mpls punk touting those two bands. Ironically, despite my roots, neither of those bands are among my favorites of the genre, though both are excellent and influential. Musta been born a bit too late.

Add the Misfits, the Damned, Stiff Little Fingers, and NOFX to the list of hallowed punk bands deserving of a spot in RRHOF. I was heartened when MC5 got in, though feel there were more worthy choices.

[Fnord 2,702]

Anyone been to the punk rock museum in Vegas? I don’t have much desire to ever go back to LV other than that and maybe to catch a show at the Sphere.

[HellToupee 2,364]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Stiff Little Fingers

Inflammable Material, imo, is the best punk album ever made

[Fnord 2,702]

Just now, HellToupee said:

Inflammable Material, imo, is the best punk album ever made

Great, great record!

Man, I have no idea what my favorite punk album is. I'd have to give that serious consideration. 

[FrancieFootball 344]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Damn @FrancieFootball sounds like an old Mpls punk touting those two bands. Ironically, despite my roots, neither of those bands are among my favorites of the genre, though both are excellent and influential. Musta been born a bit too late.

Add the Misfits, the Damned, Stiff Little Fingers, and NOFX to the list of hallowed punk bands deserving of a spot in RRHOF. I was heartened when MC5 got in, though feel there were more worthy choices.

I think the Butth0le Surfers belong in. They produced the album after album of some the most original, out-of-box music in rock history and even had a couple of hits and hit albums along the way.

What the hell is Stevie Nicks doing in there over Robert Plant?