ICE agents have less training than dog catchers

[Frozenbeernuts 2,550]

As long as they are handling illegals and some liberals, I'm good. Thanks Ice

[Strike 6,149]

Seems like even more reason to not fock with them.  Obviously, they're just wild west yahoos that shoot first and ask questions later.  Don't get shot.  Leave them alone.

[FrancieFootball 381]

7 minutes ago, Strike said:

Seems like even more reason to not fock with them.  Obviously, they're just wild west yahoos that shoot first and ask questions later.  Don't get shot.  Leave them alone.

Oh, so the less training, the better.

Maybe they should arm toddlers and send 'em out there.

Booyay!

[seafoam1 3,592]

6 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

We have widely different definitions of "amazing."

Yeah, you think the smell of cat shlt is so amazing you live in a litter box..

[dogcows 1,442]

5 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

As long as they are handling illegals and some liberals, I'm good. Thanks Ice

You want the government to round up citizens who have different politics than you?

That’s not very American of you.

[seafoam1 3,592]

16 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You want the government to round up citizens who have different politics than you?

That’s not very American of you.

They aren't citizens dumbass.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,550]

16 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You want the government to round up citizens who have different politics than you?

That’s not very American of you.

Not round up liberals just for their beliefs. Just shove them around and arrest them if they try to impede the agents.

[Voltaire 5,548]

Sh!tbag Leftoid Activist Training only takes a weekend seminar class ... but the entry requirements to qualify for that weekend class is quite formidable. It takes $100,000 in student loans, a lifetime of white-guilt brainwashing, and an IQ under 85. Only the most dedicated and the stupidest of the stupid qualify.

Sadly for much of FFToday, Intersectional female and quasi-female candidates do get preferential admission over testosterone-challenged fluffers.

[jerryskids 7,277]

how many days of training are required to sell insurance?

To sell insurance, you need initial pre-licensing training (around 20-40 hours) for state exams and company-specific onboarding, followed by ongoing continuing education (CE) (e.g., 48 hours every 4 years in AZ)

ICE is 9X better trained than Rusty.

[dogcows 1,442]

9 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

I voted for illegal bad hombres to be treated worse than stray dogs.  

Your mom must be so proud.

[FrancieFootball 381]

If less is better in regard to training ICE agents, they should deploy aborted fetuses into action and have Kyle Rittenhouse train them.

Hot diggity!

[Hardcore troubadour 16,245]

2 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

If less is better in regard to training ICE agents, they should deploy aborted fetuses into action and have Kyle Rittenhouse train them.

Hot diggity!

What do you do for a living?

[FrancieFootball 381]

13 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Your mom must be so proud.

He thinks stray dogs deserve bad treatment. This makes him feel more like what he thinks is a man.

[FrancieFootball 381]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What do you do for a living?

I am a corporate executive. 

[dogcows 1,442]

DHS is using AI to determine which agents need training. It resulted in some oopsies!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/ice-error-meant-recruits-sent-field-offices-proper-training-sources-sa-rcna254054

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The AI tool used by ICE was tasked with looking for potential applicants with law enforcement experience to be placed into the agency’s “LEO program” — short for law enforcement officer — for new recruits who are already law enforcement officers. It requires four weeks of online training. 

Applicants without law enforcement backgrounds are required to take an eight-week in-person course at ICE’s academy at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Georgia, which includes courses in immigration law and handling a gun, as well as physical fitness tests. 

“They were using AI to scan résumés and found out a bunch of the people who were LEOs weren’t LEOs,” one of the officials said. 

The AI tool was initially the mechanism used to categorize résumés, the officials said and flagged anyone with the word “officer” on their résumés — for example, a “compliance officer” or people who said they aspired to be ICE officers. 

The majority of the new applicants were flagged as law enforcement officers, the officials said, but many had no experience in any local police or federal law enforcement force.

TL:DR - Former LEOs aren’t required to take the full ICE training. But the AI falsely flagged a majority of applications as former LEOs even though they weren’t.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,245]

5 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

I am a corporate executive. 

You work at night? 

[FrancieFootball 381]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You work at night? 

Are you hitting on me?

[Hardcore troubadour 16,245]

3 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Are you hitting on me?

It doesn’t appear you do much corporate executive- ing during the day. What kind of corporation? 

[thegeneral 3,831]

Look at how riled up the rubes are

[FrancieFootball 381]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

It doesn’t appear you do much corporate executive- ing during the day. What kind of corporation? 

I have a doctorate in economics from Stanford. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,245]

Just now, FrancieFootball said:

I have a doctorate in economics from Stanford. 

Great. What kind of corporation? 

[dogcows 1,442]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Great. What kind of corporation? 

HT trying to doxx somebody with 50 more IQ points than him. Good luck dude

[Hardcore troubadour 16,245]

8 minutes ago, dogcows said:

HT trying to doxx somebody with 50 more IQ points than him. Good luck dude

Everyone knows this is Rusty. You think it’s real and you’re the one talking about IQ points? You played yourself, fool. 

[dogcows 1,442]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Everyone knows this is Rusty. You think it’s real and you’re the one talking about IQ points? You played yourself, fool. 

So you’re trying to doxx a fake person? You’re really special.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,245]

7 minutes ago, dogcows said:

So you’re trying to doxx a fake person? You’re really special.

I’m having some fun. You seem incapable. Trump! 

[FrancieFootball 381]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Great. What kind of corporation? 

Nunya Inc.

[dogcows 1,442]

More ICE incompetence.

https://bsky.app/profile/zooples.bsky.social/post/3mcgu2776ks2f

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ICE shot someone, ran off and left paperwork in their vehicle, which was then raided. Super secret details of these images that include ALL the information for the ICE attacks in MN.

You can see pics of all their plans at the link.

They are exhibiting Hegseth levels of OPSEC.

[FrancieFootball 381]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

More ICE incompetence.

https://bsky.app/profile/zooples.bsky.social/post/3mcgu2776ks2f

You can see pics of all their plans at the link.

They are exhibiting Hegseth levels of OPSEC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mmmmm...beer 826]

Basic 1811 CITP is 12 weeks I think?  Last time I looked at FLETC.   That 47 days maybe be some sort of add on for them on immigration law?

I dunno know.  I was only a fed cop/agent for 23 years.

 

[dogcows 1,442]

1 minute ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Basic 1811 CITP is 12 weeks I think?  Last time I looked at FLETC.   That 47 days maybe be some sort of add on for them on immigration law?

I dunno know.  I was only a fed cop/agent for 23 years.

 

Kids these days have it too easy…? 

[FrancieFootball 381]

3 minutes ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Basic 1811 CITP is 12 weeks I think?  Last time I looked at FLETC.   That 47 days maybe be some sort of add on for them on immigration law?

I dunno know.  I was only a fed cop/agent for 23 years.

 

From what I read, that's from recruitment to deployment. Forty-seven days for what's basically a military operation. They're not trained to handle a situation such as the one that led to that mother's killing, and they don't seem particularly on whom they hire.

 

[mmmmm...beer 826]

The Criminal Investigator Training Program (CITP) at FLETC is generally around 12 weeks long, providing foundational investigative skills for various federal agencies, though some sources mention 11 weeks or 59 days, with specialized agency training often following for several more weeks. This core CITP prepares agents with basic law, interviewing, firearms, and defensive tactics, with the subsequent agency-specific training (like ATF's SABT or HSI's HSISAT) adding 8 to 15+ weeks. 

Key Details:

Duration: Typically 12 weeks (about 3 months).

Content: Covers fundamental criminal investigation concepts, including law, evidence, interviewing, firearms, and physical fitness.

Follow-up: After CITP, agents attend additional training for their specific agency (e.g., ATF, ICE, Secret Service, OSI).

Variations: Some agencies might list it as 11 weeks or 59 days, but the 12-week mark is common, notes Research.com and the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers (FLETC) website. 

[FrancieFootball 381]

2 minutes ago, mmmmm...beer said:

The Criminal Investigator Training Program (CITP) at FLETC is generally around 12 weeks long, providing foundational investigative skills for various federal agencies, though some sources mention 11 weeks or 59 days, with specialized agency training often following for several more weeks. This core CITP prepares agents with basic law, interviewing, firearms, and defensive tactics, with the subsequent agency-specific training (like ATF's SABT or HSI's HSISAT) adding 8 to 15+ weeks. 

Key Details:

Duration: Typically 12 weeks (about 3 months).

Content: Covers fundamental criminal investigation concepts, including law, evidence, interviewing, firearms, and physical fitness.

Follow-up: After CITP, agents attend additional training for their specific agency (e.g., ATF, ICE, Secret Service, OSI).

Variations: Some agencies might list it as 11 weeks or 59 days, but the 12-week mark is common, notes Research.com and the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers (FLETC) website. 

Would you advocate for that being the training standard for ICE agents?

[mmmmm...beer 826]

4 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

From what I read, that's from recruitment to deployment. Forty-seven days for what's basically a military operation. They're not trained to handle a situation such as the one that led to that mother's killing, and they don't seem particularly on whom they hire.

 

Yeah... I'm not so sure about that info.  I'm not refuting you read that.  I'm fairly suspect of the info source the person who wrote what you read.

It's common knowledge how long training is for an 1811 (Special Agent) series is.  Plus whatever add on they have.  I'm thinking they saw the add on and ran with it.

Those are basics.

[mmmmm...beer 826]

4 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

Would you advocate for that being the training standard for ICE agents?

What do you mean advocate for it?  I'm not pushing back, just clarifying your question.

The standardized training for a federal agent is the CITP program.  For uniformed officers it's the a mixed fed basic training.  That's also easily looked up.  16+ weeks maybe?

Usually, someone who makes an 1811 hiring has already been a uniformed guy for awhile.  Years...

 

[FrancieFootball 381]

1 minute ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Yeah... I'm not so sure about that info.  I'm not refuting you read that.  I'm fairly suspect of the info source the person who wrote what you read.

It's common knowledge how long training is for an 1811 (Special Agent) series is.  Plus whatever add on they have.  I'm thinking they saw the add on and ran with it.

Those are basics.

This just came out today from Poynter, which I most certainly trust. It must have gone up after I created this thread.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2026/ice-47-days-training-reduced-trump/

I value the insights from you and Gobbledog on this kind of thing. 

 

[FrancieFootball 381]

4 minutes ago, mmmmm...beer said:

What do you mean advocate for it?  I'm not pushing back, just clarifying your question.

The standardized training for a federal agent is the CITP program.  For uniformed officers it's the a mixed fed basic training.  That's also easily looked up.  16+ weeks maybe?

Usually, someone who makes an 1811 hiring has already been a uniformed guy for awhile.  Years...

 

I appreciate the clarification. I wasn't pushing back, either. You have a deep knowledge of federal training, and I most certainly respect that. 

[mmmmm...beer 826]

Oh I see.  They are being funny with the math.  They are not counting weeks, but "training days".   So 48 days is 48 "training days".  If you train 5 days a week. That's what 11 weeks and change?  So..12 weeks for basic...like CITP is... PLUS the add on, which could be months again.

That's a bit sneaky reporting.

 

[mmmmm...beer 826]

Ah... yeah their add on is an additional 3.5 months after that.

"After completing the Criminal Investigator Training Program (CITP) at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC), U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) special agent trainees attend the Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent Training (HSISAT) program. 

The HSISAT Add-On Program

Duration: The HSISAT is an agency-specific add-on that typically lasts about 3.5 months, immediately following the 12-week CITP. Recent information suggests it may have been shortened to approximately 8 weeks, with the goal of expediting the training process for new hires.

Location: Like CITP, the HSISAT program is also conducted at the FLETC in Glynco, Georgia.

Curriculum: The program focuses specifically on the laws, policies, and procedures related to HSI's mission, which includes investigating a wide array of criminal activities such as human trafficking, drug smuggling, and financial crimes. It builds upon the foundational law enforcement skills taught during CITP.

ERO Training: For those entering ICE as Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) officers, a different add-on, the Deportation Officer Transition Program (DOTP), is attended after completing the Basic Immigration Enforcement Training Program (BIETP), not the CITP. 

Upon successful graduation from both CITP and the HSISAT program, trainees are assigned to their field offices as full-fledged HSI special agents."

[FrancieFootball 381]

2 minutes ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Oh I see.  They are being funny with the math.  They are not counting weeks, but "training days".   So 48 days is 48 "training days".  If you train 5 days a week. That's what 11 weeks and change?  So..12 weeks for basic...ike CITP is... PLUS the add on, which could be months again.

That's a bit sneaky reporting.

 

I did some some very basic research, so my numbers could be way off. Or the numbers I researched were sneaky reporting.

Regardless, it's still quality trolling.