Brewers Pitcher Ejected for Foreign Substance

[hoytdwow 202]

Will Smith apparently likes to smear a mixture of sunscreen and rosin on his glove arm so he can "grip the ball" not to make it dance or anything

 

Guess he should be suspended 4 games and the BrewCrew lose some draft picks.

 

It is pretty common knowledge that most pitchers do something like this, probably as many as QBs who fock with the ball inflation. But, see, it's just not a big deal. You get tossed and that's it.

 

 

[RLLD 3,464]

Will Smith apparently likes to smear a mixture of sunscreen and rosin on his glove arm so he can "grip the ball" not to make it dance or anything

 

Guess he should be suspended 4 games and the BrewCrew lose some draft picks.

 

It is pretty common knowledge that most pitchers do something like this, probably as many as QBs who fock with the ball inflation. But, see, it's just not a big deal. You get tossed and that's it.

 

 

 

Did he lie when confronted, blame others, deny ever knowing about sunscrfeen or that rosin existed?

[edjr 5,600]

CHEATERS!

 

Take away their world serie... oh wait.

[IGotWorms 3,354]

This is an affront to sportsmanship. Off with his head

[RLLD 3,464]

Did he refuse to give access to his arm, glove, or did his organization refuse access in some way? How many balls did he do this to? Did he pretend to have no knowledge of the rule and yet be someone who actively proposed as supported that rule? Just trying to see how relevant this is.

[hoytdwow 202]

 

Did he lie when confronted, blame others, deny ever knowing about sunscrfeen or that rosin existed?

What difference does it make? It's a minor offense, just like under- or over-inflating a football is.

 

He did say he put it on in the bullpen then forgot to take it off before he came out

[Mike Honcho 4,062]

What difference does it make? It's a minor offense, just like under- or over-inflating a football is.

 

He did say he put it on in the bullpen then forgot to take it off before he came out

 

Did he sneak into the umpires room when nobody was looking and put the substance on balls, pregame?

 

Will Smith apparently likes to smear a mixture of sunscreen and rosin on his glove arm so he can "grip the ball" not to make it dance or anything

 

Guess he should be suspended 4 games and the BrewCrew lose some draft picks.

 

It is pretty common knowledge that most pitchers do something like this, probably as many as QBs who fock with the ball inflation. But, see, it's just not a big deal. You get tossed and that's it.

 

 

 

Also I was unaware that Will Smith played in the NFL.

[edjr 5,600]

Did he refuse to give access

 

I love what the haters glom onto

 

glom glom glom

[hoytdwow 202]

Did he refuse to give access to his arm, glove, or did his organization refuse access in some way?

No, he got caught red-handed, which is a nice standard of evidence to have, dontcha think? Did you not watch the video?

[edjr 5,600]

No, he got caught red-handed, which is a nice standard of evidence to have, dontcha think? Did you not watch the video?

 

Evidence

 

what is that?

[Mike Honcho 4,062]

Obstruction charges were dropped.

 

MLB absolutely colluded against him.

 

who gives a fock now?

 

 

 

Evidence

 

what is that?

 

[RLLD 3,464]

No, he got caught red-handed, which is a nice standard of evidence to have, dontcha think? Did you not watch the video?

 

I don't watch baseball, actively avoid it. But I do like both apples and oranges of course.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

I love what the haters glom onto

 

glom glom glom

come on brady should have given his cell phone to the group who leaked and did not retract totally fabricated hogschit psi #s and other lies during the investigation. Um yeah, ok

[edjr 5,600]

come on brady should have given his cell phone to the group who leaked and did not retract totally fabricated hogschit psi #s and other lies during the investigation. Um yeah, ok

 

He should have given his cell phone so they could read his PRIVATE conversations too

[RLLD 3,464]

I should not be enjoying this as much as I am.

[IGotWorms 3,354]

Are they going to interview the ballboy five times?

 

When does the 200 page report come out?

[drobeski 3,061]

 

He should have given his cell phone so they could read his PRIVATE conversations too

ofcourse duh, they've proven they could be trusted, and its not like brady is a celebrity married to a celebrity or anything

[MDC 5,921]

Pink hat Pats homers defending cheating - shocker!

[Mike Honcho 4,062]

Are they going to interview the ballboy five times?

When does the 200 page report come out?

I'm sure when it does you will ignore all the findings and statements and substitute your own and then argue they are real no matter how many times people show you they are not.

[hoytdwow 202]

Are they going to interview the ballboy five times?

 

When does the 200 page report come out?

Again, no, because it is a common occurrence. Most pitchers have something on the ball, just like every NFL team doctors their balls the way they want them.

[Mike Honcho 4,062]

Again, no, because it is a common occurrence. Most pitchers have something on the ball, just like every NFL team doctors their balls the way they want them.

You guys should write a book: The Lies we tell ourselves to justify cheating.

 

[hoytdwow 202]

You guys should write a book: The Lies we tell ourselves to justify cheating.

 

you don't think it's a little odd that NFL teams can do whatever they want to the ball except fock with the air? Or that when baseball players fock with the ball they just get tossed from the game and that's it? Serious questions.

I'm not saying Brady shouldn't be punished, but the severity and scale of outrage are just ridiculous.

[drobeski 3,061]

Again, no, because it is a common occurrence. Most pitchers have something on the ball, just like every NFL team doctors their balls the way they want them.

rumor has it some guys like to try and sneak them by the refs over the limit, no biggie.

[MDC 5,921]

Pats nation still on full tilt.

[Mike Honcho 4,062]

you don't think it's a little odd that NFL teams can do whatever they want to the ball except fock with the air? Or that when baseball players fock with the ball they just get tossed from the game and that's it? Serious questions.

I'm not saying Brady shouldn't be punished, but the severity and scale of outrage are just ridiculous.

 

Again, let me know when a pitcher hires guys to sneak into the umpire's dressing room and switches out legal baseballs for illegal ones to give him an advantage during the game.

[RLLD 3,464]

Can't wait to see what the next justification for cheating will be

[Djgb13 2,338]

There's no lying about it. Umpire noticed something was wrong, walked out to the pitchers mound, and caught him red handed. Not a big deal as most pitchers do mess with the ball just like all Qbs mess with the ball.

[drobeski 3,061]

Can't wait to see what the next justification for cheating will be

deer antler spray help justify it ?

[RLLD 3,464]

deer antler spray help justify it ?

 

Bringing out an old favorite That one never gets old, maybe Th*masina should consider spraying that stuff on the footballs? Maybe he already did, not that he knows anything about the footballs of course

[hoytdwow 202]

I'll try again.

 

I'm not saying Brady shouldn't be punished. But does no one else think the severity of the penalty and scale of outrage is not completely out of proportion to the actual offense he committed? I actually find it mind boggling!

 

How is it not just a one game suspension and maybe a fine? It doesn't matter if he lied about it. The underlying offense is minor. And why is the team allowed to scuff the balls up but not let a pound of air out?

 

When pitchers get thrown out for doctoring the ball, they lie about it too, but they still just get tossed and that's it.

 

Like if a WR got busted with stickum on his gloves, I'd expect him to be thrown out of the game and that's it. I just don't get it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Will Smith apparently likes to smear a mixture of sunscreen and rosin on his glove arm so he can "grip the ball" not to make it dance or anything

 

Guess he should be suspended 4 games and the BrewCrew lose some draft picks.

 

It is pretty common knowledge that most pitchers do something like this, probably as many as QBs who fock with the ball inflation. But, see, it's just not a big deal. You get tossed and that's it.

 

 

He will be suspended as others have been for that infraction.

 

But what other qbs alter the ball after inspection?

[RLLD 3,464]

I'll try again.

 

I'm not saying Brady shouldn't be punished. But does no one else think the severity of the penalty and scale of outrage is not completely out of proportion to the actual offense he committed? I actually find it mind boggling!

 

How is it not just a one game suspension and maybe a fine? It doesn't matter if he lied about it. The underlying offense is minor. And why is the team allowed to scuff the balls up but not let a pound of air out?

 

When pitchers get thrown out for doctoring the ball, they lie about it too, but they still just get tossed and that's it.

 

Like if a WR got busted with stickum on his gloves, I'd expect him to be thrown out of the game and that's it. I just don't get it.

 

I suspect he likely would have faced a single game suspension had he not lied, or pretended to not know anything about the occurence, had he cooperated a bit more, and not been so smug about it. I think the eventual outcome was a result of the offense and also too the attempt to deny, lie and obfuscate.

[posty 2,304]

Suspended eight games...

 

Appeal filed...

[hoytdwow 202]

Suspended eight games...

 

I give up. I just don't understand anything anymore

[RLLD 3,464]

I give up. I just don't understand anything anymore

 

I know....I know....you see, he cheated....so he is being punished. Cheating is wrong, so the people who want the game to be played fairly and cleanly, punished him for it. Take some time with this, let it settle in.

[Mike Honcho 4,062]

I give up. I just don't understand anything anymore

 

You do know that Baseball <> Football, right?

[Djgb13 2,338]

8 games in baseball is like 1 game in football. His spot in the rotation will come up maybe twice before he's back out there. Remember baseball players play over 100 games in a season.

[Mike Honcho 4,062]

8 games in baseball is like 1 game in football. His spot in the rotation will come up maybe twice before he's back out there. Remember baseball players play over 100 games in a season.

 

He's a reliever and I think he had the most appearances in baseball last year, so maybe 3 or 4 innings...so it's more like he would be missing a quarter in a football game. More for the Patriot fans to about.

[NewbieJr 540]

I'll try again.

 

I'm not saying Brady shouldn't be punished. But does no one else think the severity of the penalty and scale of outrage is not completely out of proportion to the actual offense he committed? I actually find it mind boggling!

 

How is it not just a one game suspension and maybe a fine? It doesn't matter if he lied about it. The underlying offense is minor. And why is the team allowed to scuff the balls up but not let a pound of air out?

 

When pitchers get thrown out for doctoring the ball, they lie about it too, but they still just get tossed and that's it.

 

Like if a WR got busted with stickum on his gloves, I'd expect him to be thrown out of the game and that's it. I just don't get it.

Factors in the decision:

Brady's refusal to cooperate

Pat's not allowing Wells to talk to McNally a second time

The Patriots press conferences, complete with flat out lying

The Patriots history of cheating

 

I suspect that a pitcher caught cheating multiple times will face a lengthier suspension each time.

[phillybear 365]

I had 300 on Atlanta last night. I'd like to say a thank you to the umpires for doing a fine job.