jerryskids

You are truly a blithering idiot. You claimed this thread was based on trans issues. I pointed out that in the OP, I specifically said that the problem is not these specific issues but the trend of increased moral relativism. You deflected with some pablum about "data points" (another phrase I didn't use). I tried to steer you back to your inability to read the OP and have an intelligent discussion. You then accused me of deflecting above. It is true, people are reading these exchanges and drawing conclusions. It's not what you think, however. I'm once again amazed by your utter and complete lack of self-awareness. I think you honestly think you are winning something here. I feel sorry for you.

I'm good, thanks. Still alive, so I can't complain, but I still do. Glad to see you back, hope you keep posting here.

So you didn't read my OP, as expected. Good job, good effort.

Once again, you can't read, or didn't even bother to read the premise in my OP, which I pasted above. You just came in to spew venom and not have a productive conversation. You could use a break, you are getting beaten so bad here. Maybe go read an article on the creativity of pivot tables?

Ah, more facts from BeachGuy. Do you have a link supporting these numbers? Of course not, it's just more feelz.

I appreciate the response. Regarding the trans, in my OP I specifically said sports and safe spaces. Locker rooms, spas, prisons (odd to call that a "safe space," but you get it). I said nothing about using pronouns or preferred names, which BTW I've done in the past with trans people I've known. To me that is common courtesy to an individual, but I see that as a personal decision which is NOT a moral absolute in either direction, and as such I oppose any newspeak legislation, for instance. I also agree with most of your Palestinian bullets, except perhaps your last one. I have no problem with the moral absolutism that the things I laid out regarding the treatment of women (and LGBTQ) are morally wrong. We could also discuss what makes a human "garbage," but I don't want to go down that rathole. Let's just say that I believe that the vast majority of Palestinians, other than the youngest of children, have been brainwashed beyond redemption into beliefs which are anathema to being a peaceful, contributing society. I value life so I don't support wanton killing of them. As I type this, I think the real challenge to my OP premise is: who defines the moral absolutes? This brings in the concept of a Judeo-Christian underpinning -- even if you don't believe in the God part, the ten commandments and the teachings of Jesus are a pretty good basis for a society IMO.

I said data, not facts. A link showing the opinion of political analysts is a piece of data; it supports my argument. You bring nothing to support yours except an inability to read the English language.

Thanks. I predicted that BeachGirl would come in with inane drivel, I just need to be better about ignoring him.

Dear God are you stupid. You called me a troll for thinking the protests are impacting his decisions. Some political analysts agree; are they trolls as well? And we can't know, because nobody is inside his vacuous, dementia-riddled brain. Now go run a creative ERP report. Those plastic spoons aren't going to make themselves!

I like the Fleetwood pick. Mostly I'm just trying to jinx you, though.

Oh good, Worms is here for some invigorating discussion. If you bothered to read or try to digest anything I said, you would understand... well, any of this better than you do now.

https://www.newsweek.com/college-protesters-joe-biden-1898868#:~:text="Biden has been emphatic that,University College London%2C told Newsweek. Once again, to no one's surprise, I bring data, and you bring feelz. Honest question: have you ever posted a link here to support your feelz posts?

Your ability to, in the same post, both argue that Leftie support for something is just at the fringe extreme, then generalize 1/2 of the country into moron cultist, is quite impressive. Biden's support of Israel is waning, if you haven't been living under a rock. And it is driven by his perception that young voters and Islamic Dearborn want it.

The trans people are absolutely the oppressed. They are the very definition of oppressed. The oppressors is a little more nuanced -- it is those who oppose anything but 100% treatment of biological men as women. And it is absolutely moral relativism to say that the rest of us should adopt to their desires; specifically in my example, their desire to be in girls' sports and safe spaces. If you look up moral relativism in the dictionary, you very well may find the Palestinian situation. I don't know if there ever has been a more clear moral absolute. And it is clearly an oppressed/oppressor situation. In fact, support from the Left of the cultures in many Islamic-ruled countries requires a heaping dose of moral relativism. Women in these cultures are property. They don't walk outside alone for fear of being raped. If they are raped, it is the woman's fault and her family will shun her. They aren't allowed to get educated. And of course we know how LGBTQ folks are treated there. And the Left is like, oh well, that's just how they roll. It's disgusting and makes no sense other than moral relativism.

Nothing really, at least all of the details about the sex. This judge doesn't seem to care if the verdict falls on appeal, instead he seems to be maximizing the chances for conviction.