Mike Honcho

Yes they do, if the "reasonable officer" doesn't understand what they did would be a violation of a person's civil rights, they get to claim qualified immunity. They get to use a defense that they didn't know what they did was illegal. This is exactly why it's so controversial and IMO, total BS.

Both of your examples have tons of case law that apply to those situations and are not examples of qualified immunity and where it applies. Jeez, I posted the legal definition from Cornell and you still don't get it and you were a cop.

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You are correct, I didn't see that post No, it's not wrong, it's pretty on the nose and it essentially what you are saying, minus that I didn't mention the good faith part...but it's still BS. The cops if they believe they are acting in good faith get to use QI as to not be sued for violating someone's rights...ie, they get to be ignorant of the law that they are charged with enforcing.

I rushed my answer, but it's police who get qualified immunity and it allows them to violate people rights, because they aren't established enough to know that the person has that right. The Police are the ones saying if they don't know what's in the Constituion, then they can't be sued for violating someone's rights. It's a BS thing that was invented in the 60s'. You know the saying Ignorance of the law is no excuse, well for the police, it actually is an excuse. From Cornell Law School.

Qualified immunity is the immunity granted to an officer if they violate someone's rights, but those rights are not so well established that EVERYONE would understand they were a violation. It's pretty much a made up thing that has no basis in the constitution and really has no business existing. It also has nothing to do with what happened here, but hey, when does anything you say have anything to do with the current topic.

WTF.

I knew we talked about this story before...not sure why it's NEWS again.

Better not be my mailman, I get my neighbors mail at least once every 2 weeks.

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The nice thing about using a pig kidney is after you can celebrate with a BLT.

Is Ty Gibbs old enough to legally drive? He looks 13.

All right, let's get to the good stuff...Buescher v Reddick.

<sigh> nice win @SUXBNME, again.

I know, why couldn't they have taken Brad K out...then I would have won.