NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 21, 2015 For the first time in US history, a judge has decreed that a pair of chimpanzees held at a university research facility are covered by the same laws that govern the detention of humans, effectively rendering the animals as legal "people" in the eyes of the law. New York Supreme Court Justice Barbara Jaffe said that the apes, held at Stony Brook University for research purposes, are covered by a writ of habeas corpus — a basic legal principle that lets people challenge the validity of their detention.The decision comes two years after the Nonhuman Rights Project, an animal rights group, brought legal cases in a bid to free four chimpanzees. The group said the animals — Hercules and Leo at Stony Brook university, and two others on private property — were being unlawfully imprisoned, and should be relocated to a sanctuary. Three lower court judges dismissed the cases as they were raised in 2013, but the Nonhuman Rights Project appealed, eventually convincing Jaffe that the animals were sufficiently intelligent to grant them what amounts to basic human rights.The animal rights group wants the apes moved to a sanctuaryJaffe has ordered a Stony Brook representative to appear in court on May 6th to reply to the Nonhuman Rights Project's petition that the animals are being held unlawfully. It could be that the judge organized the hearing to listen to both sides of the case before making a decision, and will ultimately decide that Stony Brook can keep the apes — Richard Cupp, a law professor at California's Pepperdine University told Science it would be "quite surprising" if the judge made "a momentous substantive finding" that chimps were legally people without both parties being able to have their say.But Natalie Prosin, the Nonhuman Rights Project's executive director, said that regardless of whether Hercules and Leo are afforded legal personhood after the hearing, the group intends to use the judge's ruling in future cases. "We have scientific evidence to prove in a court of law that elephants, great apes, and whales and dolphins are autonomous beings and deserve the right to bodily liberty," she said. "[This ruling] strengthens our argument that these nonhuman animals are not property."You can't make this shiot up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 822 Posted April 21, 2015 My fish have no rights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted April 21, 2015 For the first time in US history, a judge has decreed that a pair of chimpanzees held at a university research facility are covered by the same laws that govern the detention of humans, I stopped reading here. Dumb. Chimpanzees are not humans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 21, 2015 One might make the stretch that "All men..." might stretch to chimps, but certainly not elephants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted April 21, 2015 One might make the stretch that "All men..." might stretch to chimps, but certainly not elephants. how? chimps are a different species Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 21, 2015 how? chimps are a different species Not saying it's not loony, but 70-96% of DNA can be an argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted April 22, 2015 I thought this happened in the 60s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelingMN 273 Posted April 22, 2015 Hopefully this doesn't infringe upon the rights corporations have as people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted April 22, 2015 Judge reverses ‘human rights’ status for chimpanzees http://nypost.com/2015/04/21/judge-reverses-human-rights-status-for-chimpanzees/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 365 Posted April 22, 2015 I reserve the right to refuse to make a banana pudding and feces cake for the upcoming nuptials of Mr Bobo and Mr Maloonigans. Stupid slippery slope. :mad: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted April 22, 2015 part of the new immigration policy ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryHill9323 65 Posted April 22, 2015 The "New" Dreamers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,552 Posted April 22, 2015 Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 23, 2015 Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty ape! What Barack says to Michelle in the privacy of their own bedroom should stay private. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Husker 85 Posted April 23, 2015 Pretty sure I saw one of these chimps at an Indian casino outside Tucson trying to get into the buffet with food stamps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,696 Posted April 23, 2015 northern, you're a punk ass loser who is also not funny. maybe you forgot that this isn't stormfront, your racist humor is not appreciated. back to the topic...i think all animals deserve freedom. chimps are quite smart: i think it's wrong to cage any animal. i think zoos are bad and i think animal experimentation is bad and i even will go so far to say that pet owning is selfish and wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites