Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 MAGA. https://www.yahoo.com/news/ford-not-scrapping-plans-build-mexico-factories-company-021839351.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted February 17, 2017 When Trump complains Ford should tell him they'll move their plants back to the US when he stops making his sh1tty clothes in China. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROCKFORD 134 Posted February 17, 2017 is this why everyone hated nafta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 17, 2017 Some people hate Trump so much they see this as good news. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted February 17, 2017 Some people hate Trump so much they see this as good news. Sad. Same thing happened under Obama. Repubs furiously jerking off every time something didn't go well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 Some people hate Trump so much they see this as good news. Sad. It's actually has nothing to do with that... It's sad that some don't see the hypocrisy involved in those who jumped and down, danced in the streets over Ford initially cancelling plans with Mexico plants shortly after meeting with Trump.. Then it was a big deal and victory for America.. Now that Ford has given Trump the middle finger and going ahead with plants - it's somehow good news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted February 17, 2017 Same thing happened under Obama. Repubs furiously jerking off every time something didn't go well. The hardcore rights of this bored like to have it both ways. They did that for 8 straight years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 The hardcore rights of this bored like to have it both ways. They did that for 8 straight years. If you've noticed, they've conveniently avoided this topic - but I'll be damn if they aren't all over celebrating the passage for dirty water in the coal mining industry.. I give Timmy and Luckman props, they at least showed up in this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted February 17, 2017 I read these Mexican imports are gonna be quite roomy. Some of them will seat up to 12 people, and that's just the trunk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted February 17, 2017 If you've noticed, they've conveniently avoided this topic - but I'll be damn if they aren't all over celebrating the passage for dirty water in the coal mining industry.. I give Timmy and Luckman props, they at least showed up in this one. I'm not a repub and I hate Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,034 Posted February 17, 2017 Honestly, this is a bit of a relief for me...There has been so much winning lately, that I've gotten sick of all the winning, happy for the break. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted February 17, 2017 Honestly, this is a bit of a relief for me...There has been so much winning lately, that I've gotten sick of all the winning, happy for the break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 17, 2017 AFAIK Ford never promised not to have ANY plants in Mexico. They certainly stopped construction on one and unless they start up again this really doesn't change anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 I'm not a repub and I hate Trump Oh really? Apologies, my bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted February 17, 2017 AFAIK Ford never promised not to have ANY plants in Mexico. They certainly stopped construction on one and unless they start up again this really doesn't change anything. Trump gets credit for the good things that happen but the rest aren't his fault. This is my shocked face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 AFAIK Ford never promised not to have ANY plants in Mexico. They certainly stopped construction on one and unless they start up again this really doesn't change anything. Then what was all the hoopla and Trump chest-bumping over Ford saying they were canceling plants in Mexico - fake celebration? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/03/ford-to-scrap-mexico-plant-invest-in-michigan-due-to-trump-policies.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 17, 2017 Then what was all the hoopla and Trump chest-bumping over Ford saying they were canceling plants in Mexico - fake celebration? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/03/ford-to-scrap-mexico-plant-invest-in-michigan-due-to-trump-policies.html They did cancel that plant, and that hasn't changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 Yeah, I knew none of you libs would give him credit. AFAIK Ford never promised not to have ANY plants in Mexico. They certainly stopped construction on one and unless they start up again this really doesn't change anything. In fact, you were rather leading the charge - making sure Trump got the credit for Ford scrapping those Mexico plants, remember? ..... So you were celebrating the Prez for convincing Ford not to build in Mexico and keeping jobs in America - now you're saying Ford never had plans to build plants in Mexico.... Uh, what? http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=462888&hl=ford Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 They did cancel that plant, and that hasn't changed. So - now it's a by plant basis thing? Never mind Ford is still moving forward with building plants and sending jobs to Mexico - Trump wins bcoz he got Ford to scratch THAT plant....? I have to admit - that's above my pay grade, gonna need some kind of Rocket Scientist to explain the net gain to me here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted February 17, 2017 I enjoyed my time in Cancun. There were no casinos when I was there, thats my only complaint. Except they stole my wallet out of my room on the last day. Left my passport though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted February 17, 2017 In fact, you were rather leading the charge - making sure Trump got the credit for Ford scrapping those Mexico plants, remember? ..... So you were celebrating the Prez for convincing Ford not build in Mexico and keeping jobs in America - now you're saying Ford never had plans to build plants in Mexico.... Uh, what? http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=462888&hl=ford Pow! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 17, 2017 In fact, you were rather leading the charge - making sure Trump got the credit for Ford scrapping those Mexico plants, remember? ..... So you were celebrating the Prez for convincing Ford not build in Mexico and keeping jobs in America - now you're saying Ford never had plans to build plants in Mexico.... Uh, what? http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=462888&hl=ford Yeah, what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 Yeah, what? Well - I just mean you seemed to be one of the ones who celebrated Trump for talking Ford into building and investing here - scratching the Mexico stuff. Something I believe you said the Libs would never give him credit for - more of his MAGA campaign... But it now seems like the entire premise of Trump's agenda, to keep jobs in America, was nothing more than a smoke screen. Ford basically gave Trump and his agenda the middle finger and nobody on the Right seems to care - in fact some are spinning it as a good thing.... Good for Ford I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 17, 2017 It's actually has nothing to do with that... It's sad that some don't see the hypocrisy involved in those who jumped and down, danced in the streets over Ford initially cancelling plans with Mexico plants shortly after meeting with Trump.. Then it was a big deal and victory for America.. Now that Ford has given Trump the middle finger and going ahead with plants - it's somehow good news. Ford cancelled a plant. They never cancelled these plants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 Ford cancelled a plant. They never cancelled these plants. Agreed.. Which is why I said - I wasn't aware the celebrations were a "by plant" basis.. The celebrating in the streets said nothing about "that plant" - the celebrations were for Trump keeping jobs in America and MAGA, as a entire platform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted February 17, 2017 I like how the forearm Republicans never cared about offshoring and were all free market right up until Trump won the nomination. Now all of a sudden they're economic populists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 17, 2017 Agreed.. Which is why I said - I wasn't aware the celebrations were a "by plant" basis.. The celebrating in the streets said nothing about "that plant" - the celebrations were for Trump keeping jobs in America and MAGA, as a entire platform. So he has to keep ALL jobs in America, keeping some is not a success? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 17, 2017 So he has to keep ALL jobs in America, keeping some is not a success? Nope has to be all of them or you are a hypocrite. Doesn't even matter if some are mostly built. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 So he has to keep ALL jobs in America, keeping some is not a success? No that's silly.. But it would be nice to see some backlash over things like this.. I mean it's front page news when Trump saves a couple hundred coal miner jobs, but when thousands of jobs and billions of dollars get shipped over the border, snuck in thru back door - the MAGA and Keeping Jobs in America celebrators pretend like it didn't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted February 17, 2017 No that's silly.. But it would be nice to see some backlash over things like this.. I mean it's front page news when Trump saves a couple hundred coal miner jobs, but when thousands of jobs and billions of dollars get shipped over the border, snuck in thru back door - the MAGA and Keeping Jobs in America celebrators pretend like it didn't happen. Heah, there Definetly is not enough backlash coming at Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 17, 2017 No that's silly.. But it would be nice to see some backlash over things like this.. I mean it's front page news when Trump saves a couple hundred coal miner jobs, but when thousands of jobs and billions of dollars get shipped over the border, snuck in thru back door - the MAGA and Keeping Jobs in America celebrators pretend like it didn't happen. They were already doing it. Those of us who were happy at the initial announcement were happy because it will keep a lot of jobs in Detroit. Ford, nor Trump, ever said they weren't going to be doing any business in Mexico. So there's nothing to be outraged about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted February 17, 2017 Heah, there Definetly is not enough backlash coming at Trump Who? Never heard of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 Heah, there Definetly is not enough backlash coming at Trump Not from the Trump soldiers - not a peep... But hey, I'm just going by what I was told - by Trump and his people... I specifically recall the Prez saying, "Companies are not going to leave the United States, anymore, w/out consequences - not going to happen." ............... Any word on what consequences Ford will face? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,646 Posted February 17, 2017 Not from the Trump soldiers - not a peep... But hey, I'm just going by what I was told - by Trump and his people... I specifically recall the Prez saying, "Companies are not going to leave the United States, anymore, w/out consequences - not going to happen." ............... Any word on what consequences Ford will face? So, your contention is that the only backlash towards Trump has been from the left? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mighty_thor 115 Posted February 17, 2017 When is Trump going to renegotiate NAFTA? Its about time the Republicans admitted that NAFTA was a mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted February 17, 2017 So, your contention is that the only backlash towards Trump has been from the left? I'd say most of it - certainly about 97% of it on this board has been. Like said - when Trump saves a couple hundred coal miner or a 1000 Carrier jobs, it's headline news. The soldiers are dancing in the street screaming, "See, Trump MAGA already!" When a company announces they are sending jobs and plants to Mexico, going directly against his campaign platform - it's not... And we're not talking about some dinky ass 50 employee, necktie making company - we're talking about a top 10, Fortune 500 giant. A giant who's sending $2.5B and 3800 jobs south of the border.... I really do wonder what the consequences will be to Ford for making this move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 17, 2017 No that's silly.. But it would be nice to see some backlash over things like this.. I mean it's front page news when Trump saves a couple hundred coal miner jobs, but when thousands of jobs and billions of dollars get shipped over the border, snuck in thru back door - the MAGA and Keeping Jobs in America celebrators pretend like it didn't happen.link to that front page ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,975 Posted February 17, 2017 I'd say most of it - certainly about 97% of it on this board has been. Like said - when Trump saves a couple hundred coal miner or a 1000 Carrier jobs, it's headline news. The soldiers are dancing in the street screaming, "See, Trump MAGA already!" When a company announces they are sending jobs and plants to Mexico, going directly against his campaign platform - it's not... And we're not talking about some dinky ass 50 employee, necktie making company - we're talking about a top 10, Fortune 500 giant. A giant who's sending $2.5B and 3800 jobs south of the border.... I really do wonder what the consequences will be to Ford for making this move. Winning! http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-accenture-idUSKBN15W1DL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 470 Posted June 20, 2017 Now they're moving their factory to China http://thehill.com/latino/338586-ford-to-move-production-of-focus-from-mexico-to-china Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted June 20, 2017 What happened to the tariffs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites