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How does your Dad? Some people have a gender identity that doesn’t match the sex they were given at birth — for example, they were born with a vulva, vagina, and uterus, but they identify as male. These people are transgender (or trans). Transgender is the “T” in LGBTQ.
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So Babbit Was Murdered After All...
Maximum Overkill replied to EternalShinyAndChrome's topic in The Geek Club
Some people have a gender identity that doesn’t match the sex they were given at birth — for example, they were born with a vulva, vagina, and uterus, but they identify as male. These people are transgender (or trans). Transgender is the “T” in LGBTQ. It's ok, you don't have to hide anymore. -
Some people have a gender identity that doesn’t match the sex they were given at birth — for example, they were born with a vulva, vagina, and uterus, but they identify as male. These people are transgender (or trans). Transgender is the “T” in LGBTQ.
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I'm not sure I agree with your assessment: "And it's not just trannies; once you open the door to trannies in women's spaces, you open the door for every pervert out there. Trannies of all variations can use the men's room and leave the women alone. Problem solved." Grammatically, I don't believe "every pervert" necessarily applies to trans folks. It's more what I said -- every abuser regardless of orientation, some of whom may be trans, most (most likely) aren't really trans but using this opportunity to do bad things, because there are a lot more of those types. Had he said "every other pervert", I would agree he's lumping all trans into "pervert." That all being said, I understand the spirit of your post. As I said earlier, people on "my side" tend to say a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl, or that trans doesn't exist, and IMO whether or not they are true, they immediately shut down meaningful dialog.
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Why, he has a valid point. A major concern of opening women's spaces (including restrooms) up to trans folks is that it opens them up to abusers of all orientation.
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Nope. Not happening.... A judge ruled Monday that San Jose State transgender women’s volleyball player Blaire Fleming will be allowed to play for the Spartans in the Mountain West Conference tournament as well as the remainder of the season. Federal Judge Kato Crews in Colorado, appointed by President Biden in January, denied a motion for injunctive relief in a lawsuit by college volleyball players against the conference, per OutKick. The news led to some backlash on social media, including women’s sports activist Riley Gaines. -
I don't think it's that hard, or needs a separate locker room facility. I've said here many times: my youngest daughter has Type 1 diabetes. She is free to pursue happiness... except where she isn't, in the interest of societal good. She can't join the military for instance. Trans adults should be free to lead their lives as trans, but not to enter women's safe spaces. I'll again exclude bathrooms, because I do agree that that is a complex issue. Agreed?
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First, good for you on the self defense stuff. If a stranger picks up a kid and carries them out, and the kid just wiggles and cries, bystanders will presume it is a disciplinary situation. Gouging eyes and kicking balls though, that's not normal and gets attention. I would add to teach them to scream "you're not my father/mother!" as well. We used to work on this with kids in our martial arts classes (it helped that we had helmets with face masks, and cups). Anyway, I would propose that we are both concerned with different slippery slopes. Yours is that people use the bathroom issue as an anti-trans issue. That's fair. Mine is that letting them in bathrooms, if not in and of itself dangerous, is a step in the Saul Alinsky playbook of letting them into locker rooms, prisons, and women's sports. Sometimes the thing is just the thing, though. On the locker rooms and prisons, to me that is an easy hard stop. Similar for women's sports, definitely contact sports, but any where a biological male would have a competitive advantage. You legislate to the norm -- if there is some obscure case like the boxer who was identified as female at birth, you address that as a one-off. The bathrooms to me are a little harder; I'd default to "no" because of young girls in particular, but like I said, I don't know that any guy can truly empathize with the concerns women have in the presence of large men. I'd just as well let women duke that one out and decide. In the end, IMO it's unfortunate that opposition to biological men in women's locker rooms, say, is argued by both sides as whether or not the person is truly a woman. I think that distracts from the real concerns. I would prefer that my "side" take more of an approach of "we understand that you identify as a woman, but for the good of society, we can't let you into these spaces. Here is why." There are clear reasons, many of which I've mentioned already.
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I've been meaning to respond to this, as you repeatedly ask the above, but I hadn't gotten around to it. When I tried searching for statistics of violent crimes BY transgenders, all of the results were for violent crimes AGAINST transgenders. Odd. I tried both Google and DuckDuckGo. You would think that such algorithms would be sophisticated enough to understand my search. Regardless, I'm left to conclude that either such data doesn't exist, or they don't want me to see it. More importantly though, there is a danger in relying on past results to predict future results, particularly when the systems generating those results have undergone significant change. I point this out frequently to @The Real timschochet whenever he quotes statistics about the economic benefits of immigration. In the case of trans women, until recently we have had much fewer trans people, and those generally had to go through years of therapy, much of the latter end I presume in learning how to coexist in society. But now we have a social contagion (please don't argue we don't, you are too smart for that) and a large industry built around "gender affirmation." Think about that -- "affirmation" implies that we accept your belief as the default. Much has been documented about the comorbidities that trans folks have with other mental health issues; if you want me to search for some links I can. Somebody posted that link about the trans woman wanting to bang Mace's face into the cement until she dies. You can say that's a one-off, but such folks are out there. Also, this recent surge in trans acceptance (if not celebration) has begun to enable a class of sh1tty men who are predators but not trans to get into women's safe spaces. All of this is to say that you cannot look at statistics from the past in this instance. I'll end with a discussion I had with my wife yesterday on this topic. She is a taekwondo black belt so better trained than most to defend herself, but not large, 5' 1". I told her about this thread and she pointed out that women wear some weird stuff in the interest of fashion, and if you have a romper on, you are basically sitting in the stall nekkid. She didn't like the idea of a large man in the room, or the stall next door, while feeling so vulnerable. I like to think of myself as empathetic, but I don't think any guy can truly empathize with women on this topic.
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Wait, I thought there weren't any kids getting sex changes
MDC replied to Frozenbeernuts's topic in The Geek Club
Max O? He’s like Peefoam’s trans-obsessed kid brother. -
Wait, I thought there weren't any kids getting sex changes
MDC replied to Frozenbeernuts's topic in The Geek Club
I don't defend trans activists or GAF what they think. -
Wait, I thought there weren't any kids getting sex changes
jonmx replied to Frozenbeernuts's topic in The Geek Club
Too bad the people you claim not to support but endless defend consider you an anti-trans facist bigot. -
Wait, I thought there weren't any kids getting sex changes
jonmx replied to Frozenbeernuts's topic in The Geek Club
Psychological evaluation is not even a thing anymore. The official medical standard only requires self-identification. Typically a kid will go into a clinic, some trans-activist will counsel the child and they will fill out a questionnaire. The questionnaire gets faxed to a doctor who rubber stamps it and drugs are prescribed and treatments leading up to and including surgery are begun. -
Discussion of Concerns for Trump Presidency
jerryskids replied to jerryskids's topic in The Geek Club
Twerking is a trans thing? -
I mean someone talking out of turn in class is far less serious an issue. I wouldn't call their parents after the first time but obviously a sexual assault is different. My point is this- all stats show most abuse of kids is by someone who is not a stranger to them. Most sexual assaults (something like 70% according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics) occur in a residence. The best I can find is that 10% of sexual assaults occur in a closed, public location. Bathrooms would be a part of this I'd assume. The simple fact is you are considerably less likely to be sexually attacked in a bathroom than anywhere else and I'd venture the level of trans assaults in a bathroom is relatively small. Any number more than 0 is bad- but like...we accept guns right...or any other number of bad things where the number is more than zero.
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The short answer is that it’s not collected and no one is stupid enough to do it openly. When crime data is collected, it’s done via database obviously. Each crime that you claim has easily obtainable statistics, is derived from a specific statute at the state level, and collectively as “Homicide, “Larceny”, etc at the federal level. That’s why they are easily found. There is no “xxx crime by trans” statute that I’m aware of and there’s no “trans” checkbox. As far as perps go, unlike race and age, gender ID is not collected by UCR. Gender is, but it will be concluded by what’s on your ID. Even, if a female is recorded as a male, there’s no further differentiation that it’s a trans person. A police department would have to decide to track it on their own, and obviously that’s a political nightmare. Whether done secretly or openly, tracking gender ID would be met with significant outcry.
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They made it worse by ignoring the whole situation . I kind of think people wore just as mad or even more when they went totally silent when all the “ frat boy” stuff hit. Now you had the trans issue plus insulting their customers
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You claimed I was wrong about this yesterday. So, please, as I said yesterday, dig beyond activist websites. Danger, you may get triggered to also find out that some stats show that trans people are LESS prone to be victims of homocide than the general pop. Sure seems like grounds for their own Remembrance Day for sure.
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One doesn't have to dig to know that the percentage of trans who commit acts of violence is a really small percentage of the trans population (or someone would be posting those numbers and posting them regularly in the trans bashing treads in this forum).
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They never have any numbers when talking about violence committed by trans folks or violence committed against trans.
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They fired the head of marketing who was in charge of this. The public got out their feelings about that dude Dylan and trans people. The woke culture seems to be dying down. I believe a point was made, the message was received and things can normalize again.
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25th Anniversary: Transgender Day of Remembrance (11.20.1999)...
Hardcore troubadour replied to posty's topic in The Geek Club
If you took out the tranny on tranny crime and violence against trannies by their non trans sex partners and Johns there isn’t a lot to talk about. I guess their pimps throw a beat down on them too. -
25th Anniversary: Transgender Day of Remembrance (11.20.1999)...
Fireballer replied to posty's topic in The Geek Club
What is it for any way? To remember that most trans violence is perpetrated by other members of the alphabet squad and they are exponentially safer around conservatives? -
Kids these days *want* to be autistic for some focking reason. Same with ADHD and, yes, being trans. They think it makes them cool or interesting. Also gives them an excuse or victim card to fall back on. It’s pretty ridiculous, tbh
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Introducing a bill to ban trans lawmakers from using capital woman’s rooms, the first transgender identifying member of Congress, description of the bill, as far right wing extremism. The right decision, no trans man should be aloud in a woman’s room, bath room, locker room, I hope this kind of stuff will become the law. 2 Timothy 3:15. And that from a child thou has known the Holy Scriptures , which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. Indeed Amen Thanks
