Lieberman establishes new party

[torridjoe 48]

It's actually called "Connecticut for Lieberman." Was he TRYING to come off arrogant and self-serving? How about "Lieberman for CT?"

 

It was done so he could move up on the ballot, to 5th (from 8th or 9th). Jesus. What a craven hack he's become.

 

Think about if he wins in the general as an "independent." When he gets back to Congress, he'll be referred to as Lieberman (CT-Lieberman). Kinda sums it up as to who he'll be representing.

 

[edjr 6,580]

Like your high school parties.

[The Elevator Killer 548]

MTV called. Pass.

[phillybear 366]

It's hard to pick just one.

 

Hmmm...Neve Campbell....Lacey Chabert...Jennifer Love Hewitt...

 

[porkbutt 893]

Like your high school parties.

[cday 0]

i used to think the democrats would just crush in 2008, if they could just not be incompetent.

 

starting to think i was wrong. if they actually nominate hillary, they are *toast*.

 

we'll see if they are smart enough to nominate warner. if so, they will cruise. if not .. well ..

[Vikings4ever 550]

It's hard to pick just one.

 

Hmmm...Neve Campbell....Lacey Chabert...Jennifer Love Hewitt...

 

JLH>Lacey>Neve

 

HTH

[torridjoe 48]

i used to think the democrats would just crush in 2008, if they could just not be incompetent.

 

starting to think i was wrong. if they actually nominate hillary, they are *toast*.

 

we'll see if they are smart enough to nominate warner. if so, they will cruise. if not .. well ..

 

My money's on Warner as well...

[Voltaire 5,315]

How is what he's doing in Connecticut different from what you were doing for Nader?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Torrid never struck me as an anti-semite.

[davebg 0]

This just goes to show everyone what a homer, political hack Torrid really is.

 

Lieberman decides to stick w/his principles and beliefs at the cost of his party's nomination and he decides to go it alone...and Torrid tries to roast him for it.

 

The Geek Club is littered w/the carcases of political threads gone by and there have been some pretty heated exchanges over the years, but the one thing that many political posters can agree on (at least the ones that are honest with themselvs and have an ounce of my respect) is that we would all be better off if politicians actually went back to representing the people who elected them, as opposed to representing their political party.

[torridjoe 48]

This just goes to show everyone what a homer, political hack Torrid really is.

 

Lieberman decides to stick w/his principles and beliefs at the cost of his party's nomination and he decides to go it alone...and Torrid tries to roast him for it.

 

The Geek Club is littered w/the carcases of political threads gone by and there have been some pretty heated exchanges over the years, but the one thing that many political posters can agree on (at least the ones that are honest with themselvs and have an ounce of my respect) is that we would all be better off if politicians actually went back to representing the people who elected them, as opposed to representing their political party.

 

Stick with his principles? How about the one that says he's a Democrat, and thus will abide by the results of the primary his party is holding in August?

 

If he were "going it alone," he'd declare as an independent and drop out of the primary. But Joe wants it both ways, because he thinks he's entitled to the seat. If he wins, he'll accept the results. But if he loses fair and square, he'll make up a new party and run against the duly nominated Democrat.

 

Joe is for the people, all right--at least one person: Joe Lieberman.

 

 

 

How is what he's doing in Connecticut different from what you were doing for Nader?

 

What did I do for Nader besides vote for him once?

Nader was never a Democrat that I know of. He always ran as an independent. He wouldn't even join the Green Party or use their platform when he ran under their banner.

 

Joe is saying even though he's a Democrat, he wants to ignore the results of their primary if he doesn't win.

 

Torrid never struck me as an anti-semite.

 

There's good reason for it never striking you.

[Toro 1]

Stick with his principles? How about the one that says he's a Democrat, and thus will abide by the results of the primary his party is holding in August?

 

If he were "going it alone," he'd declare as an independent and drop out of the primary. But Joe wants it both ways, because he thinks he's entitled to the seat. If he wins, he'll accept the results. But if he loses fair and square, he'll make up a new party and run against the duly nominated Democrat.

 

Kind of like how the democrats are forcing Delay to run in Texas even though he doesn't live there anymore and has dropped out of the race. The democrats couldn't beat any republican in that district, so instead of winning at the ballot box, they go and get a judge to win for them.

[davebg 0]

Stick with his principles? How about the one that says he's a Democrat, and thus will abide by the results of the primary his party is holding in August?

 

If he were "going it alone," he'd declare as an independent and drop out of the primary. But Joe wants it both ways, because he thinks he's entitled to the seat. If he wins, he'll accept the results. But if he loses fair and square, he'll make up a new party and run against the duly nominated Democrat.

 

Joe is for the people, all right--at least one person: Joe Lieberman.

What did I do for Nader besides vote for him once?

Nader was never a Democrat that I know of. He always ran as an independent. He wouldn't even join the Green Party or use their platform when he ran under their banner.

 

Joe is saying even though he's a Democrat, he wants to ignore the results of their primary if he doesn't win.

There's good reason for it never striking you.

A large part of the Dem leadership abandoned Lieberman for not toeing the party line and actually voting as he saw fit. For that, he paid the price of losing the primary...and you expect him to fall on his sword and continue his allegiance to them?

 

Admit it, Torrid, what bothers you most about this is that now there is a very real chance that Lieberman and his Dem opponenet will split the votes and allow a Rep candidate to slip in and win the election.

[torridjoe 48]

Kind of like how the democrats are forcing Delay to run in Texas even though he doesn't live there anymore and has dropped out of the race. The democrats couldn't beat any republican in that district, so instead of winning at the ballot box, they go and get a judge to win for them.

 

Uh, the Republicans chose the judge. They got the most conservative one they could find. It's not the judge's fault DeLay's case was preposterous.

 

You have it right: he dropped out of the race. Problem is, you can't do that after the primary in Texas. Or at least you can, but you can't be replaced.

 

It's not a strong Republican district anymore, anyway. DeLay diluted it to the point where Bush won with 55% in 2004.

 

You'll have to explain how this has anything to do with Lieberman, however. On second thought, don't bother.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Admit it, Torrid, what bothers you most about this is that now there is a very real chance that Lieberman and his Dem opponenet will split the votes and allow a Rep candidate to slip in and win the election.

 

Nope. torrid is afraid that Lieberman will lose the primary and not go away. Lieberman would win the election as a 3rd party candidate. This is all a bunch of whining.

[Toro 1]

Uh, the Republicans chose the judge. They got the most conservative one they could find. It's not the judge's fault DeLay's case was preposterous.

 

You have it right: he dropped out of the race. Problem is, you can't do that after the primary in Texas. Or at least you can, but you can't be replaced.

 

It's not a strong Republican district anymore, anyway. DeLay diluted it to the point where Bush won with 55% in 2004.

 

You'll have to explain how this has anything to do with Lieberman, however. On second thought, don't bother.

 

I was just being argumentative.

[torridjoe 48]

A large part of the Dem leadership abandoned Lieberman for not toeing the party line and actually voting as he saw fit. For that, he paid the price of losing the primary...and you expect him to fall on his sword and continue his allegiance to them?

 

Admit it, Torrid, what bothers you most about this is that now there is a very real chance that Lieberman and his Dem opponenet will split the votes and allow a Rep candidate to slip in and win the election.

 

I'm not sure who beyond Clinton has "abandoned" Lieberman. It's not just about votes, however--it's about actively deriding his own party, while literally kissing up to the President and claiming that criticizing him is unpatriotic.

 

There is almost no chance for the Republican candidate to win the election. Either Lieberman wins the primary, or Lieberman or Lamont win the general. What bothers me most is that Joe thinks he's entitled to the seat and deserves a bye through to the general election.

 

What do you mean "paid the price of losing the primary?" It's in August. You might want to do some homework before replying again.

 

Nope. torrid is afraid that Lieberman will lose the primary and not go away. Lieberman would win the election as a 3rd party candidate. This is all a bunch of whining.

 

that's much closer to the truth. I agree it's all a bunch of whining--Holy Joe's.

[cday 0]

i never liked lieberman from the get-go. when he was for legislation to censor the entertainment industry, that pretty much turned me off immediately.

[DanXIII 8]

A large part of the Dem leadership abandoned Lieberman for not toeing the party line and actually voting as he saw fit. For that, he paid the price of losing the primary...and you expect him to fall on his sword and continue his allegiance to them?

 

Just curious...who specifically is this "large part of the Dem leadership" you speak of? Every single Dem I've heard comment on the subject stands behind Lieberman through the Dem primaries. Also, since the primary has not yet been held, how can Lieberman have already lost it?

 

Admit it, Torrid, what bothers you most about this is that now there is a very real chance that Lieberman and his Dem opponenet will split the votes and allow a Rep candidate to slip in and win the election.

 

I'm not Torrid but I will readily admit it. I simply do not think that another two years of Rep leadership will be good for this country. That said, why don't YOU admit that the only reason you're even the least bit interested in the subject is for the very same reason, namely, that one of "your guys" will slip in and win the election?

 

The fact is, Lieberman is NOT in it for "the people," he's in it for himself. If he does not want to be on the Dem ticket, no problem! All he has to do is send back all the campaign $$$ he has sponged from the DNC and the state party, and bow out of the primary. He's not doing that, though, is he? If Lieberman were truly interested in serving "the people" of his state then he wouldn't be in any trouble at all.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

If Lieberman were truly interested in serving "the people" of his state then he wouldn't be in any trouble at all.

 

Is he in trouble? Fact is he has a sizable lead. torrid's presence with these threads indicates that there is some sort of grassroots efforts from the far left to smear the guy by getting some sort of bad word out. Lieberman has obviously gotten wind of it and is making attempts to quash it by stating his intention to circumnavigate the process. New politics in the internet age.

[OriginalMonkeyBoy 0]

I'm not sure who beyond Clinton has "abandoned" Lieberman. It's not just about votes, however--it's about actively deriding his own party, while literally kissing up to the President and claiming that criticizing him is unpatriotic.

 

There is almost no chance for the Republican candidate to win the election. Either Lieberman wins the primary, or Lieberman or Lamont win the general. What bothers me most is that Joe thinks he's entitled to the seat and deserves a bye through to the general election.

 

What do you mean "paid the price of losing the primary?" It's in August. You might want to do some homework before replying again.

that's much closer to the truth. I agree it's all a bunch of whining--Holy Joe's.

 

 

Alright..so what's with the "Holy Joe" thing that you are always posting. Can you splain that to me?

Is it just another 'funny' like "Lie berman"?

[torridjoe 48]

Is he in trouble? Fact is he has a sizable lead. torrid's presence with these threads indicates that there is some sort of grassroots efforts from the far left to smear the guy by getting some sort of bad word out. Lieberman has obviously gotten wind of it and is making attempts to quash it by stating his intention to circumnavigate the process. New politics in the internet age.

 

Fact is? Rasmussen's most recent rates it nearly a tossup, which Joe under 50%.

 

If it's a grassroots effort from the far left, they were 33% of CT Democrat conventioneers--because that's why he's on the ballot.

 

It's not a smear to point out that Lieberman is a staunch supporter of the war to this day, and has called criticism of it essentially unpatriotic. It's not a smear to point out that he was alone among Democrats--as in, absolutely 100% alone--in not repudiating Bush's Social Security nonpayment plan until it was long dead. It's not a smear to point out that he told women who were raped that it was no big deal if they went to a Catholic hospital and were denied Plan B, because it's just a short drive to some other hospital.

 

It's not a smear. It's a primary. And Joe thinks he shouldn't have to go through one--to be held accountable. And if he does go through it and loses, he doesn't think he should have to abide by it.

 

Alright..so what's with the "Holy Joe" thing that you are always posting. Can you splain that to me?

Is it just another 'funny' like "Lie berman"?

 

I've never seen Lie berman, but Holy Joe's been around since 2000, when he went around making sure to drop hints about his faith in every speech. It also refers to his insufferable sanctimony about stuff like Hollywood and who was getting BJs.

[wiffleball 4,790]

...and yet, he'll still lose in his party's primary..

 

It is a well known fact that Torrid is an anti-semitic Jew hater. Torrid's been looking for a Joe Lieberman-sized microwave for years now.

[torridjoe 48]

...and yet, he'll still lose in his party's primary..

 

It is a well known fact that Torrid is an anti-semitic Jew hater. Torrid's been looking for a Joe Lieberman-sized microwave for years now.

 

wouldn't need one. Last week in that debate he looked so angry he was about to spontaneously combust.

[Mark Buffington 3]

Rasmussen's most recent rates it nearly a tossup, which Joe under 50%.

:giggle:

[Strike 5,532]

It's not a smear to point out that Lieberman is a staunch supporter of the war to this day, and has called criticism of it essentially unpatriotic. It's not a smear to point out that he was alone among Democrats--as in, absolutely 100% alone--in not repudiating Bush's Social Security nonpayment plan until it was long dead. It's not a smear to point out that he told women who were raped that it was no big deal if they went to a Catholic hospital and were denied Plan B, because it's just a short drive to some other hospital.

 

Is it a smear to say someone is indicted when they haven't been?

[torridjoe 48]

Is it a smear to say someone is indicted when they haven't been?

 

depends on whether the person in charge of the indictments says they haven't been.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

depends on whether the person in charge of the indictments says they haven't been.

 

 

Where can one obtain a list of the daily non-indictments? I hope I am on it.

[porkbutt 893]

Candidates Gone Wild

[Toro 1]

Party of One.

 

Hey, though should sound familiar to MDC.

 

"Douuchebag, party of one. Douchhebag, party of one your spot at the counter at Denny's is ready."

[torridjoe 48]

Candidates Gone Wild

 

something wrong with you?

[porkbutt 893]

something wrong with you?

no sir.

[wiffleball 4,790]

What's with Torrid's fascination with Joe Lieberman??

[Toro 1]

What's with Torrid's fascination with Joe Lieberman??

 

Joe likes to tear down the jews.

[torridjoe 48]

no sir.

 

then WTF are you posting about?

[porkbutt 893]

then WTF are you posting about?

Lieberman, a candidate, has gone wild.

[Giants Fan 85]

Maybe if he changed it to Liebertarian he'd get some extra accidental votes.

[torridjoe 48]

Maybe if he changed it to Liebertarian he'd get some extra accidental votes.

 

Maybe he should change it to Pat Buchanan.

[Rude Rick 0]

Lie berman betrayed this nation...by supporting the Iraq War he green lighted the murder of thousands.