Culpepper is a Top 4 QB

[Striker99 0]

Daunte Culpepper (knee) reported feeling no pain in his surgically-repaired knee during drills Saturday. He took the field nine months after a right knee injury ended his last season in Minnesota. Throwing against the wind generated by huge air condition vents, he threw a pass 50 yards in the air, catching receiver Chris Chambers in stride along the sideline with midseason accuracy. "So far, everything is a thumbs-up," Culpepper said. "I had visions when I got hurt to be here today to start training camp, and I still have visions to be ready for the first game." Culpepper added that he felt comfortable dropping back, rolling out and running. Culpepper is questionable for the preseason opener against the Jaguars.

 

Officially, IMO, he is back to the Culpepper of 2004. He's moved from #11 to #4 for me...and he should move up on your lists to. Screw Eli and Hasslebeck.

 

cough *Marino's back* cough!

[Vikings4ever 569]

cough *Marino's back* cough!

 

cough *deer in headlights* cough!

[Ras66not99 0]

cough *deer in headlights* cough!

 

let me fix that for ya pal..... DEER IN HIGH BEAMS ! cough , cough

 

my friends laughed at me last year when I said Pepper getting hurt was the best thing that ever happened to the Vikings.... I'd take Brad Johnson at the helm of my franshise over his a$$ any day of the week...... Good luck in 2006 Viking fans..

[Da Bomb 0]

Culpepper is a Top 4 QB

 

.... on the dolphins!

 

[adam smitty 0]

.... on the dolphins!

 

 

Nice

[Raider 84 29]

We got one spot left in out league if you are interested.

 

Daunte

[lguero1 4]

DEVIL'S ADVOCATE to ye w/ short memories

 

Going into 05 and coming off a 5100 yards and 41 TDs, Culpepper was projected 1B with Peyton who also had a 2004 season that could not be forgotten. of course, Culpepper's 05 was as forgettabe as they get since he was so highly rated coming in even without moss.

 

in 04, 806 rushing yards and 2 rushing TDs so don't tell me the injured knee is going to limit his rushing TDs, he only had two that year.

 

IF IF IF IF Chambers is big and physical like Randy Moss to a certain degree, a #2 or 4 ranking is not that farfetched. One of the biggest differences is Moss had Nate Burleson (9TDs) and Marcus Robinson (8TDs). The other big difference is why should Culpepper throw it 34 times in Miami. No team is going to blow out this defense and there will be no need to put up those numbers.

 

Culpepper with Booker, Chambers, and McMichael could be good if they were needed.

 

I've still got him ranked #10 with the chance to move up slightly.

[De Novo 0]

This team isn't going to throw the ball enough to make Daunte a top-4 QB.

 

3200 yds, 19 TDs, 15 INTs

300 yds rushing, 3 TDs

[Vince44 208]

15 TD's/15 ints

[Dr. Octopus 0]

Throwing against the wind generated by huge air condition vents, he threw a pass 50 yards in the air,

 

 

Minnesota should have considered playing its games outdoors, with Culpepper now proving he could handle the most intense elements. 50 yard pass into air conditioning vent generated winds, now that's impressive.

[Willie McGee 0]

No he's not.

[joneo 562]

There are two constants when talking about Culpepper's game:

 

1. He is inconsistant as hell

 

2. He fumbles

 

 

I will predict that the humidity of Florida will have Culpepper dropping the ball more than average. That alone will hurt him. Throw in the fact he throws the ball into too much coverage. He could get away with it when Moss was there. He won't be successful in Miami. Stay away. 10th over all QB is the highest he should be drafted. I would take him in the 5th round.

[Vikings4ever 569]

There are two constants when talking about Culpepper's game:

 

1. He is inconsistant as hell

 

2. He fumbles

I will predict that the humidity of Florida will have Culpepper dropping the ball more than average. That alone will hurt him. Throw in the fact he throws the ball into too much coverage. He could get away with it when Moss was there. He won't be successful in Miami. Stay away. 10th over all QB is the highest he should be drafted. I would take him in the 5th round.

Ahman Green's sweat+Daunte's small hands=fumblerooski

[texasmouth 1]

IF IF IF IF Chambers is big and physical like Randy Moss to a certain degree, a #2 or 4 ranking is not that farfetched. One of the biggest differences is Moss had Nate Burleson (9TDs) and Marcus Robinson (8TDs).

 

First off, Chambers is no where near the same receiver as Moss. Chambers is a smaller guy. Just shows you really dont know anything except what you have read.

 

Chris Chambers= 5'11" Randy Moss= 6'4"

 

Second, I would take Marty Booker over Nate Burleson any day. Daunte never had a legitimate TE in Minnesota either.

[IndyTom 0]

Top 4? I assume you give bonus points for tunrovers?

[Super Cubs 155]

The other big difference is why should Culpepper throw it 34 times in Miami. No team is going to blow out this defense and there will be no need to put up those numbers.

I agree.

 

Plus they have a solid RB to run down clock.

[Vikings4ever 569]

First off, Chambers is no where near the same receiver as Moss. Chambers is a smaller guy. Just shows you really dont know anything except what you have read.

 

Chris Chambers= 5'11" Randy Moss= 6'4"

 

Second, I would take Marty Booker over Nate Burleson any day. Daunte never had a legitimate TE in Minnesota either.

Do you realize Wiggins has the third most TE receptions over the past 2 years?

[Kilroy 0]

First off, Chambers is no where near the same receiver as Moss. Chambers is a smaller guy. Just shows you really dont know anything except what you have read.

 

Chris Chambers= 5'11" Randy Moss= 6'4"

 

Height really doesn't define what type of WR a guy is. Chambers may only be 5'11", but his physique has always reminded me of Terrell Owens. Watching him as a rookie for the first time, I was stunned to learn he was under 6 feet tall. To me, he has always looked and played as if he is much bigger on the field. Also, there's no denying he is a consistant TD threat.

 

Moss may be 6'4" and Chambers may be 5'11", but they both weigh 210 pounds.

 

 

I'm not about say Moss and Chambers are comparable receivers, but I think the point the poster was trying to make is that if Chris Chambers can play up to the level of elite WRs in the league, then Culpepper should be very productive this season.

 

Considering what Chambers has done in the past with some awful QBs and even worse coaching in a conservative offense, I tend to think he can become one of the elite WRs this year.

[Da Bomb 0]

Do you realize Wiggins has the third most TE receptions over the past 2 years?

 

yeah but hes no mcmichael...

[cheetah6 0]

yeah but hes no mcmichael...

 

Lot of upside to this, I agree he should have a good season w Chambers- a very undervalued receiver who had 11 TDs without no real QB.

[texasmouth 1]

Do you realize Wiggins has the third most TE receptions over the past 2 years?

I have the guy on my dynasty team. He catches a lot of dump off passes. Rarely gets in the end zone. Only once last season. 13 Total TD in his career since 2000!!!!!

 

Last two years:

Gonzo- 180 Receptions

Gates- 170 Receptions

Witten- 153 Receptions

Wiggins- 140 Receptions

McMicheal- 133 receptions

 

Todd Heap and Alge Crumpler both had injury seasons in the past years.

 

Height really doesn't define what type of WR a guy is. Chambers may only be 5'11", but his physique has always reminded me of Terrell Owens. Watching him as a rookie for the first time, I was stunned to learn he was under 6 feet tall. To me, he has always looked and played as if he is much bigger on the field. Also, there's no denying he is a consistant TD threat.

 

Moss may be 6'4" and Chambers may be 5'11", but they both weigh 210 pounds.

I'm not about say Moss and Chambers are comparable receivers, but I think the point the poster was trying to make is that if Chris Chambers can play up to the level of elite WRs in the league, then Culpepper should be very productive this season.

 

Considering what Chambers has done in the past with some awful QBs and even worse coaching in a conservative offense, I tend to think he can become one of the elite WRs this year.

I actually agree that Chambers has the potential to be an elite WR but he is a much different receiver than Moss. Moss catches anything that comes near him because he is so much taller than most DB, Chambers is tough though and he catches some balls that a lot of other guys wouldnt.

[tampa_fan_01 0]

Who else is going to be the #4 QB this year? Most years we have a good idea of tiers of QBs, but for me, there are two tiers... Peyton and the rest.

My Rankings

1. Manning

 

2. Hasselbeck

3. Brady

4. Anyone....

 

I dont see a clear cut class of QBs this year... and if Culpepper can come in and play at a high level with Chambers, Ronnie Brown, Booker, McMichael, and underrated Sammy Morris and Travis Minor as 3rd Down Backs... I dont see why he couldnt be top 4, or at least above top 10

[texasmouth 1]

Who else is going to be the #4 QB this year? Most years we have a good idea of tiers of QBs, but for me, there are two tiers... Peyton and the rest.

My Rankings

1. Manning

 

2. Hasselbeck

3. Brady

4. Anyone....

 

I dont see a clear cut class of QBs this year... and if Culpepper can come in and play at a high level with Chambers, Ronnie Brown, Booker, McMichael, and underrated Sammy Morris and Travis Minor as 3rd Down Backs... I dont see why he couldnt be top 4, or at least above top 10

Palmer?

McNabb?

Bledsoe?

 

I think Favre will have a bounce back year.

Steve McNair could be a big time sleeper.

Kurt Warner, if he stays healthy, could be a stud.

[tampa_fan_01 0]

Palmer?

McNabb?

Bledsoe?

 

I think Favre will have a bounce back year.

Steve McNair could be a big time sleeper.

Kurt Warner, if he stays healthy, could be a stud.

I'll admit that I needed to add Palmer in there. But hes coming off a pretty nasty knee injury, so i'll have to hold off on putting him where he may well belong at #2. But that being said, Culpepper has the ability to be in the top 4 still.. and the weapons too.

[edjr 6,942]

Can't wait to see how high some people foolishly draft chambers

[lguero1 4]

Palmer?

McNabb?

Bledsoe?

 

I think Favre will have a bounce back year.

Steve McNair could be a big time sleeper.

Kurt Warner, if he stays healthy, could be a stud.

 

Bulger is a beast when healthy also.

 

Is it a fair comparison to say that McNabb 2006 = Culpepper 2005? They both lost their big time receivers and don't have anyone proven or worth a crap left behind. Culpepper might be forcing some passes because I don't see Brown, Pinkston, or Gaffney breaking away. LJ Smith might be the #1 option on this team. THis is what I was thinking of while my girlfriend was getting friendly with me, that is sad isn't it.

 

I dropped Chambers on my list because of Mularkey's offense and the fact that saban is going to run and play defense and that is all. i am thinking of moving him up because i read that mularkey's offenses are the most TE unfriendly offenses out there. TE is practically no option in passing game in Mularkey's offense. I am going based on what i read and I haven't researched it YET.

 

as for marty booker over nate burleson, fine. my point was nate and marcus robinson combined for 17 TDs in 2004. i would cream all over booker if he can get that many TDs.

[DBZFan2K 0]

Top 4? I assume you give bonus points for tunrovers?

 

[Phurfur 70]

Is it a fair comparison to say that McNabb 2006 = Culpepper 2005? They both lost their big time receivers and don't have anyone proven or worth a crap left behind.

 

No, McNabb had good number before TO got there, Culpepper didn't.

[Dr. Octopus 0]

I'll admit that I needed to add Palmer in there. But hes coming off a pretty nasty knee injury, so i'll have to hold off on putting him where he may well belong at #2. But that being said, Culpepper has the ability to be in the top 4 still.. and the weapons too.

 

Good thing Culpepper isn't comin off a nasty knee injury.

[DBZFan2K 0]

Good thing Culpepper isn't comin off a nasty knee injury.

 

LOL

[mr.shitty 0]

uhg

[Striker99 0]

you guys have no faith

[DBZFan2K 0]

you guys have no faith

 

It's not that. It's just that it's amusing that you are so confident that he'll magically put up a top 4 season given his condition, but that the same doesn't apply for Carson Palmer. After Bulger came off the draft board you probably had no choice.

[Erb047 0]

Way too early for this speculation. Culp looks great in training camp but he's facing no pressure and his injury isnt in his arm anyways. I dont think his injury will have much of an effect on him come pre-season.

 

As far as top 4 goes, I dont think so. Top 10 definitely. Chambers is a beast and I'd love to have him on my fantasy team. Eff the haters...

[Vikings4ever 569]

Something to note:

 

Culpepper had a QB rating of 115.9 last preseason. His rating went down by more than 40 points in the regular season.

 

In other words, wait until he faces something other than winds and vanilla NFL defenses.

[Kilroy 0]

Something to note:

 

Culpepper had a QB rating of 115.9 last preseason. His rating went down by more than 40 points in the regular season.

 

In other words, wait until he faces something other than winds and vanilla NFL defenses.

 

What was his QB rating before last season? What's his career QB rating? I'm guessing it's pretty respectable. And since he has been a starting QB in the NFL for the past 6 years, I think it's fair to say he has faced a lot more than winds and vanilla defenses during that time. Having Mike Tice as his head coach the past few seasons certaintly wasn't beneficial to him either.

 

I've never really liked C-pep as an NFL QB for most of his career, but there's something to be said for his career 64.4 completion percentage. Some may use Moss as reason for his % being high, but he still completed 64.4% of his passes last season, despite playing poorly in most of the games.

 

Another thing--look at what the Vikings were last season. They turned things around once Culpepper went on IR, but prior to that the team was in a bad situation for a number of reasons. The new setting Culpepper is in should benefit him. He's surrounded by more talent on offense and he's working with a better coaching staff.

 

If his knee holds up, I can't see many reasons for why Culpepper would struggle this year.

[swamp dog 0]

i don't see it but you're welcome to your opinion.

 

i also have questions on the type of offense the dolphins run and whether it's a good fit for ff numbers.

[Frankie Valiant 0]

I was in shock when I found out a few years ago that Chambers was only 5'11....man that dudes arms reach his ankles!....he has got to have a 12 foot reach.....

[MattBWild 0]

Pep is no longer the QB he was when he was in his prime. I remember when he used to run around and scramble a lot like Mike Vick (But half as much) and he was considered a top qb at that time. Well with this injery I doubt we see any of that scrambling, I doubt we see him just heave it up there anymore. The AFC actually plays Defence (no knock on the bears, I still think they are the best) Culpepper will have a ton of adjusting to do. look at the division he used to play in compared to what he plays in now.

 

-Matt-