The Next Generation 10 Posted September 27, 2006 This whole suicide thing is BS.He have 40 pain killers. He had taken a total of 5 since the perscription....you saying TO is that dumb to think 2-3 pain killers is gonna kill him? This guy wanted more money to live a bling bling life. You telling me he is going to wash it all down with pain killers? IF YOU CAN...TRADE FOR HIM NOW... Although this all may be BS, you are missing the point with the pills. He said he had taken 5 up to that day, yet there were none left in the bottle. 5 down, 2 pryed out of his mouth, 33 missing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted September 27, 2006 This whole suicide thing is BS.He have 40 pain killers. He had taken a total of 5 since the perscription....you saying TO is that dumb to think 2-3 pain killers is gonna kill him? This guy wanted more money to live a bling bling life. You telling me he is going to wash it all down with pain killers? IF YOU CAN...TRADE FOR HIM NOW... no, it said that he had only taken 5 before today...they then asked if he had taken the remainder and said "yes". that's 35 pills. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillybear 366 Posted September 27, 2006 I'll never forget Philly fan standing and cheering as Michael Irvin layed motionless on the turf. Philadelphia is the armpit of America. Michael Irvin would allow a dozen guys to hump his armpits for a little bit of coke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJJoe20 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Newsworthy? Yes But the whores in the media should use their ethical judgement, or in this case, lack thereof, and allow TO the privacy he deserves. Common decency is lost on the vast majority of these cackling hyenas(sp?) I don't give a damn if his PR team is spinning this at this point, wait till the man himself gives a statement. If this indeed was a suicide attempt, he will not be allowed to leave the hospital. If he is at home at this point, the media deserves a whipping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotica 5 Posted September 27, 2006 Taking pills to off yourself is a woman thing. No way TO wants his legacy (whatever it is to date) to be death by painkillers. Not manly enuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parja 0 Posted September 27, 2006 So the dude's tripping balls on a bad mix of pain killers and supplements and people are actually believing the responses he gave to a couple of questions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrySilver 0 Posted September 27, 2006 SUCH AN A$$HOLE - FOCK OFF AND GO BACK UNDER THE ROCK FROM WHICH YOU CAME BIG LETTERS!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreddieMercury 0 Posted September 27, 2006 From Fanball -- Deion Sanders, who spoke to Owens on Wednesday, told the NFL Network that the receiver believes he just had an adverse reaction due to the mix of his pain medication and the supplements/vitamins he takes. Owens allegedly laughed about the suicide rumors, and he was in good spirits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BugsyCicada 0 Posted September 27, 2006 So the dude's tripping balls on a bad mix of pain killers and supplements and people are actually believing the responses he gave to a couple of questions? I have been able to drive at high speeds, use a cell phone, have a conversation and change the CD in the player, while eating a sandwich on much much worse substances/chemicals. This guy can hold a conversation on 5 pain killers and some metrix ?? anyone else able to multi-task and under what conditions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robzm19 6 Posted September 27, 2006 I'm sure Jerry Jones is on suicide watch now after hearing this..... What can be said... dood has problems. Always has..... but when you REALLY want to die, you use a gun or jump off a high building. When you want attention or help... you do something of this nature. you are half right. when you want attention you do something of this nature. but on "when you really want to die you use a gun or jump off a high building" your way off. Have you ever really wanted to die if so then why arent you dead you shouldve shot yourself or jumped off a high building. If not then you cant really say what type of method someone does when they really want to die I would think if it comes on suddenly you use the method closest to your means what evers available. For TO if its true that would be the pills. Ok guys time for my thoughts on this ever popular thread. Everything is speculation at this point. There is a lot of secrecy backtracking uncomformed reports in large part to do the HIPAA privacy act which is a huge thing for hospitals. A number of things could have happened to cause this situation. 1. TO took a couple pills then took a couple more. still groggy then take a couple more not knowing he just took some pills. From my experience as a Respiratory Therapist pt on pain meds can get to a certain point very fast where there not to sure whats going on and the start taking the meds out of habit not realizing they just had some. These people are very groggy will not understand your questions and just say yes just to get through the conversattion. nonenglish speaking mexicans do this a lot you can talk to them and theyll nod there had and say yes through the entire conversation and youll never know they couldnt understand. 2.couldve been a fight with a girlfriend/wife takes pills to kill himself very common among males the "ill show her" his stomache woudve been pumped at the hospital but if this happened I dont see him leaving the hospital the next day let alone this early as just reported on espn cold pizza. Rule this out I doubt a popped all those pills. 3. couldve just been overblown like everything else. you know those instructions on your prescription that says dont take with alchohol. theres a lot of other things that react with medications in particular hydrocodone which can be amplified by alchohol other pills supplements. this is likely youll get side effects become groggy respiratory drive might become decreased but if its not a large amount of pills they will just give him some narcan to counteract the meds interview him and send him on his merry way. I like 3. and I will pray for you guys who are saying theres no excuse for this he shouldve killed himself an d all that other good stuff. Depression is serious and so are different disorders that cause you to act out of the norm. These things are not controlled by the individual. I dont think its a publicity stunt all though it is apossibility To has been trying to be well behaved at least this year. Anything going on with him this year has been strickly media Except the bike thing. That was all him. my 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted September 27, 2006 Classy Philly fans once again show their true colors. Regardless of who I am a fan of, I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who commits suicide, a-hole. The only time I would have some sort of sympathy is for someone with a debilitating condition who is in constant pain with no chance of coming out of it. Suicide is the coward's way out. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BugsyCicada 0 Posted September 27, 2006 So the dude's tripping balls on a bad mix of pain killers and supplements and people are actually believing the responses he gave to a couple of questions? I have been able to drive at high speeds, use a cell phone, have a conversation and change the CD in the player, while eating a sandwich on much much worse substances/chemicals. This guy can hold a conversation on 5 pain killers and some metrix ?? anyone else able to multi-task and under what conditions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted September 27, 2006 So the dude's tripping balls on a bad mix of pain killers and supplements and people are actually believing the responses he gave to a couple of questions? No. We are believing and responding to the following: Someone actually called Fire and Rescue reporting that someone was trying to kill themselves with pain killers. It has been reported that the person making the call was a woman named Etheridge, which coincidentally is TOs publicists name. Then, uopn arriving at the scene, they learn that she has pryed 2 pills out of his mouth and that he said he only took 5 prior to that day, yet the bottle was empty. Also, a "friend" indicated that TO said he was depressed. That's a LOT of circumstantial evidence, even though at this point that's all it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted September 27, 2006 thay just had blurb from Deion who spoke with TO. TO will have a press conference later in the day. Basically TO was laughing at the suicide reports. Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheeseAndWhine 0 Posted September 27, 2006 So the dude's tripping balls on a bad mix of pain killers and supplements and people are actually believing the responses he gave to a couple of questions? One of the few good substantive comments in this thread, even including the words "tripping balls." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 157 Posted September 27, 2006 They have TO on camera with 2 thumbs UP laughing!!!! This is hilarious! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adanley 1 Posted September 27, 2006 Can't help but think, could this be considered a substance abuse violation? Man, a four game suspension would be unreal. That would be a kick in the gut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 27, 2006 I've got to believe that was Parcells just trying to keep the media wolves at bay. The DAL depth chart @WR reads: TO, Glenn, Crayton, Terrance Copper and Skyler Green Last year Crayton showed some flashes and seemed to be on his way to becoming a "Parcells guy." So, Glenn gets a boost, as does Crayton. I also believe that the DAL TEs will get a boost...although, I'm not sure how that will play out between Witten and Fasano. Rotoworld is saying that Sam Hurd will take TO's place in the lineup. Frankly, I have no idea who he is...he is not even listed in the depth chart list on the FFToday home page. The fantasy impact of Owens' situation obviously takes a backseat, but the odds of Owens playing in Week 4 appear to be very slim. Sam Hurd is expected to start in his place, with Terry Glenn assuming the role of No. 1 receiver in Dallas offense.http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/features/...p;article=25555 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Ice 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Although this all may be BS, you are missing the point with the pills. He said he had taken 5 up to that day, yet there were none left in the bottle. 5 down, 2 pryed out of his mouth, 33 missing. If he did take 30+ pills and tried to commit suicide then why would he be released from the hospital less than 24 hrs later. You would think, there would be some lingering effects from that amount of pills being in your system, or he would be placed on some type of suicide watch which wouldn't have him out on the streets already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 27, 2006 T.O. disputes police report Terrell Owens, WR DAL News: Here is the latest on Terrell Owens: Sources confirm that the Cowboys receiver is out of the hospital and his publicist is disputing the claim made by Dallas police that he attempted to kill himself. apparently this is the most useless 5 page topic in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parja 0 Posted September 27, 2006 I have been able to drive at high speeds, use a cell phone, have a conversation and change the CD in the player, while eating a sandwich on much much worse substances/chemicals. This guy can hold a conversation on 5 pain killers and some metrix ?? anyone else able to multi-task and under what conditions? You're a focktard moron. The key here is adverse reaction (ie. not reacting as expected). Have you ever seen someone having an adverse reaction to meds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted September 27, 2006 apparently this is the most useless 5 page topic in history. perhaps, but it passes the time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parja 0 Posted September 27, 2006 One of the few good substantive comments in this thread, even including the words "tripping balls." I wanted to make sure I used the most technical and accurate term possible. I've got 5 Benjamins on over 247 replies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GhostofMeanMachine99 1 Posted September 27, 2006 Can't help but think, could this be considered a substance abuse violation? Man, a four game suspension would be unreal. That would be a kick in the gut. I was thinking the same thing. However, one would believe he had a prescription for the painkillers. Now, if they were prescribed and he was abusing them over a long period of time (ala Favre), then the league would prolly step in if the player didn't (like Favre). I think if your Jerry Jones, you have to be very skeptical of TO. If he accidentally mixed the supplements with the painkillers, you may have to babysit the guy 24/7. If he really did miserably try to off himself, holy cow does JJ have problems. The Cowboys, as a business, are obligated to help him seek treatment (all the while paying him). If that were the case, do the Cowboys put him on IR (to open up a roster spot), make him inactive, etc? Personally, I think the police effed up at the scene when asking TO those questions. You can, however, bet the farm that alot of people are gonna dig in and investigate just what the heck really happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usurpers26 26 Posted September 27, 2006 winner 90% of the people in this thread should apply for a job at the Enquirer...it's hilarious on how much rampant speculation there is. Even when this situation settles down - no one is going to believe what TO or anyone else says if it's not what they want to hear. apparently this is the most useless 5 page topic in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 27, 2006 Newsworthy? Yes But the whores in the media should use their ethical judgement, or in this case, lack thereof, and allow TO the privacy he deserves. Common decency is lost on the vast majority of these cackling hyenas(sp?) I don't give a damn if his PR team is spinning this at this point, wait till the man himself gives a statement. If this indeed was a suicide attempt, he will not be allowed to leave the hospital. If he is at home at this point, the media deserves a whipping. Privacy he deserves? Yeah...cause TO has never used the media to his advantage.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BugsyCicada 0 Posted September 27, 2006 apparently this is the most useless 5 page topic in history. yeah, everyone on 5 pain killers automatically tells the police "yes" when they ask them if they tried to kill themselves. "adverse reaction", you must be a liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted September 27, 2006 Ummm...i highly doubt on tuesday night you try and commit suicide and by wednesday morning you are already released from the hospital free to try again....but who the hell knows nowadays...maybe the cowboys cut back on their health insurance??? We're talking about Texas here.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParentalAdvisoryGirl 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Can't help but think, could this be considered a substance abuse violation? Man, a four game suspension would be unreal. That would be a kick in the gut. I've been trying too look into this all morning... anyone with information on this please post it I mean it's obvious this would be substance abuse.. but I can't find a full description of the NFL's substance abuse policy.. Perhaps it would only be considered such if the police prosecuted this or he turned up in a random screening? I really am interested in this side of the story because at this point I think it's pretty obvious TO OD'ed on rx pills... the why isn't so important.. But what's gonna happen now is pretty important Can't help but think, could this be considered a substance abuse violation? Man, a four game suspension would be unreal. That would be a kick in the gut. I've been trying too look into this all morning... anyone with information on this please post it I mean it's obvious this would be substance abuse.. but I can't find a full description of the NFL's substance abuse policy.. Perhaps it would only be considered such if the police prosecuted this or he turned up in a random screening? I really am interested in this side of the story because at this point I think it's pretty obvious TO OD'ed on rx pills... the why isn't so important.. But what's gonna happen now is pretty important Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usurpers26 26 Posted September 27, 2006 How do you know it's 5 though? How do you know anything besided the conflicting news that is out there? If scooter is a liberal, then you are nothing more than a blind sheep...good luck with that. yeah, everyone on 5 pain killers automatically tells the police "yes" when they ask them if they tried to kill themselves. "adverse reaction", you must be a liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akaoni 0 Posted September 27, 2006 A couple of points. First, as someone who has worked in the psychiatric field for many years, I'd say that there is little here that suggests Bipolar disorder, yes we've seen uneven behavior from TO over the years, but I don't think that that's enough to diagnose this illness. If anything other commentators who suggested that he's suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder (also called Emotional Intensity Disorder) are more likely closer to the mark. TO's constant attention getting behavior is pretty consistent with this, and suicide attempts (serious or not) are also fairly common for people suffering from this disorder. The related and not mutually exclusive disagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder could also be applicable. Second, although these possible disorders do not absolve TO of responsibility for his past behavior, to see some of the vile and vindictive things being said here is pretty disapointing. I think that some people need to take a step back here and look in the mirror. These are human beings we're talking about and not just imaginary playthings. Yes, fantasy football, and sport in general is an enjoyable passtime but it's just that, an entertainment When human life is in the balance, we should try to try to get a little perspective... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dcOne 2 Posted September 27, 2006 And I suppose there is a chance, when the dust settles, TO will say, that he DIDN'T respond with "Yes" to the police when they asked him if he tried to harm himself. Or he'll say there was a misunderstanding, and that it was a drug reaction, or possibly that he lied about taking all the pills---for whatever reason. It's not often I quote myself, but there are now reports out saying it was a misunderstanding. That of course, won't change the fact that, if that is the case, the media can't and won't attempt to undue their fockup. (if there was a fockup) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 27, 2006 We're talking about Texas here.... Wow...insulting the midwest last week...now you want to take on Texas? How about that game Sunday...what was your worst case scenario for that one?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted September 27, 2006 TO is my new hero I have nothing to add Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 27, 2006 yeah, everyone on 5 pain killers automatically tells the police "yes" when they ask them if they tried to kill themselves. "adverse reaction", you must be a liberal. 1. I'm a republican you assclown. This is twice you've called me a liberal and fock you very much indeed you clueless polesmoker. 2. the police never asked him if he tried to harm himself. The paramedic reportedly did. All that information was denied by the police and attributed to a paramedic. No one knows if it's true, and his publicist (who was identified as his friend at the scene) has denied it all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted September 27, 2006 Ummm...i highly doubt on tuesday night you try and commit suicide and by wednesday morning you are already released from the hospital free to try again....but who the hell knows nowadays...maybe the cowboys cut back on their health insurance??? We're talking about Texas here.... Wow...insulting the midwest last week...now you want to take on Texas? How about that game Sunday...what was your worst case scenario for that one?? I predict me, your mom, and a bottle of vaseline. 1. I'm a republican you assclown. This is twice you've called me a liberal and fock you very much indeed you clueless polesmoker. 2. the police never asked him if he tried to harm himself. The paramedic reportedly did. All that information was denied by the police and attributed to a paramedic. No one knows if it's true, and his publicist (who was identified as his friend at the scene) has denied it all. Just when I was starting to like you.... How can you look at yourself in the mirror knowing you voted for George Bush. I'd rather vote for TO. TO FOR PRESIDENT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omarkal 0 Posted September 27, 2006 T.O about to do a live conference on Fox News any minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robzm19 6 Posted September 27, 2006 yeah, everyone on 5 pain killers automatically tells the police "yes" when they ask them if they tried to kill themselves. "adverse reaction", you must be a liberal. supposedly the police said are you trying to hurt yourself. A person that is groggy could here only hurt and yourself so they would respond yes.. thinking they were being asked if they had any pain. Did you take the rest of the pills in the bottle To responds Yes. maybe he he heard did you take the pills in your bottle. so hes thinking yea my hand hurt so I took my pills whats the big deal. Only speculation but what isnt at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites