Terrell Owens Tried To Committ Suicide

[dcOne 2]

would actually have the courage to do what he shouldve done...take his life....

 

 

Does your family think you are as worthless as your post indicates? Well, actually, I'm sure they don't. They live right there in your trash pit with you, so, nahh...they probably think your an alright sort of guy.

[football_scooter 0]

Why exactly would the police type an inaccurate initial report? They didnt exactly make the stuff up.

 

Everything that is being done after the fact is damage control being done by a guy with a lot of money.

 

Whatever, believe what you want to believe, its not a criminal offense and its not going to hold him down from playing football whether or not he tried to off himself. THe fact is what we have known all along is that he is emotionally unstable.

 

As ar as his broken finger, receiver Donald Driver, who joined the Packers in 1999, estimates he’s had three broken fingers and seven sprained fingers from Favre’s throws. You dont hear him missing games because of it. I think TO has some chronic vaginitis.

 

wow - what a hater. In case you missed it, TO will likely play this week, so apparently he won't be missing any games either.

 

As for why the police would write an inaccurate report, maybe it has something to do with the ambulance driver giving them inaccurate information. I mean, how many brain cells does it really take to put that one together, Sherlock?

 

But whatever (as you so aptly put it) - believe what you want to believe. If you want to be the d0uchebag who continues to bang the drum of misinformation here because you hate TO so much, that's on you. Just don't be shocked when people call you on it. The rest of the world has moved on. You might want to consider it, since you're wrong.

[BradtheBold 0]

This isn't true. He took the right amount of pills, and they reacted badly with other things he was taking.

 

- despite reports that he did in fact not overdose, and because they let him go, you assume that he's suicidal?

Let me toss in some medical semantics.

 

Mixing medications and becoming "out of it" "unresponsive" is an overdose. Even if you take the "right amount" of any one pill.

 

The proper medical term is an "adverse drug interaction". It happens all the time with narcotics, especially combined with sedatives or alcohol. This is not an allergic reaction like some people are calling it.

 

But it is also still considered an OD and treated as such.

[Sho Nuff 720]

wow - what a hater. In case you missed it, TO will likely play this week, so apparently he won't be missing any games either.

 

As for why the police would write an inaccurate report, maybe it has something to do with the ambulance driver giving them inaccurate information. I mean, how many brain cells does it really take to put that one together, Sherlock?

 

But whatever (as you so aptly put it) - believe what you want to believe. If you want to be the d0uchebag who continues to bang the drum of misinformation here because you hate TO so much, that's on you. Just don't be shocked when people call you on it. The rest of the world has moved on. You might want to consider it, since you're wrong.

 

 

The police report was accurate as far as a possible attempted suicide.

 

As it was reported...and still remains a fact that he was asked if he was trying to harm himself...and he did answer yes. This is not disputed...it did happen...and no amount of your leaving that out every time will make it untrue.

 

The police report...thus far was accurate as to the substance of it...what they pulled was their involvement in it as it was between Etheridge and the Paramedics.

 

You chose to be the ###### banging misinformation...you chose to believe the supposed "publicist" who only has proven herself to be a poor public speaker and is basically calling the Dallas PD liars.

 

He's wrong? Funny...you continue to be wrong...over and over and over again each time you speak on the topic...which is why you cannot answer a few very simple questions honestly.

[football_scooter 0]

The police report was accurate as far as a possible attempted suicide.

 

As it was reported...and still remains a fact that he was asked if he was trying to harm himself...and he did answer yes. This is not disputed...it did happen...and no amount of your leaving that out every time will make it untrue.

 

The police report...thus far was accurate as to the substance of it...what they pulled was their involvement in it as it was between Etheridge and the Paramedics.

 

You chose to be the ###### banging misinformation...you chose to believe the supposed "publicist" who only has proven herself to be a poor public speaker and is basically calling the Dallas PD liars.

 

He's wrong? Funny...you continue to be wrong...over and over and over again each time you speak on the topic...which is why you cannot answer a few very simple questions honestly.

 

1. The initial police report is bunk. even the police have stated this. The publicist has repeatedly denied making the statements that TO "took 30 pills" or that she had to remove two more from his mouth. How many times do the police themselves, and the publicist and TO have to say that it wasn't true before you believe them? Why would you continue to harp on this when it's been contradicted by so many, even the police themselves? I concede that the initial police report contained these pieces of information - thus I am not denying it, nor am I lying about it - but they aren't true. So at some point you have to let it go.

 

2. I am not wrong about any of it, nor am I banging misinformation (but if she's cute I'll take a hummer?) - the Dallas PD aren't liars - their source seems to have been wildly misinformed.

 

3. The question of whether he tried to harm himself was addressed by TO at the presser. He was out of it, having an adverse reaction to the medication. He was asked a lot of things all at once - I can imagine it was a hectic scene. He stated that he was answering one person and not the question of trying to harm himself. You're like a focking bulldog on a soupbone on this one, and you continue to selectively believe whatever lets you bash on Owens or me respectively. The fact is that he didn't try to harm himself, and the hospital wouldn't have let him go if he had. He was out practicing that day, and there's absolutely no evidence of an attempted suicide other than the misguided statements of an ambulance driver.

 

Get a focking clue already. The truth is out and yet here you are, still leading the bandwagon of the "suicidal TO" - which makes no sense anyway as he's such a narcissist - and people that filled with self love generally do not kill themselves. who else would gaze lovingly at the bust of him in his hallway if he weren't around to do it?

 

Get a clue Sho - you were wrong about this one. The initial police report has been debunked by TO, the oublicist AND THE POLICE THEMSELVES. I posted the link to that on page 2. Do I really need to keep posting it for you to finally accept that the police made a mistake in reporting it? At least they were big enough to admit it....ESPN & others still haven't said that they were wrong to leap to conclusions and report everything without verification. But the cops themselves have made a public statement that the official report is what they gave at the press conference, and that the initial report is not accurate. If that's not good enough for you, then you're obviously to busy with your own agenda to consider reality.

[Sho Nuff 720]

1. The initial police report is bunk. even the police have stated this. The publicist has repeatedly denied making the statements that TO "took 30 pills" or that she had to remove two more from his mouth. How many times do the police themselves, and the publicist and TO have to say that it wasn't true before you believe them? Why would you continue to harp on this when it's been contradicted by so many, even the police themselves? I concede that the initial police report contained these pieces of information - thus I am not denying it, nor am I lying about it - but they aren't true. So at some point you have to let it go.

 

Do you need to watch their press conference again? The police have not said it was bunk...they have said...during the press conference, that they could not confirm or deny what was in that report.

The publicist can keep denying that...she has a reason to lie...the police and paramedics do not.

The police have not said it was not true.

And here is the question. If she did not say she thought he took 30 pills...why does he explain why she would have thought so? Why does he have the need to explain they were in a drawer? There would be no reason to...she appears to be trying to spin this.

 

THe police have not contradicted that...remember when I said you were lying...you are doing it again. The police have not stated the report was false...they have not refuted the information provided in the report. All you have is the denial of the publicist...which is contradicted by the words of TO himself explaining where the pills were.

 

Not to even mention the part of the report about him saying yes to the famous question of did you try to harm yourself. That did in fact happen...he does not deny this...yet you keep acting as if it did not happen.

 

 

 

2. I am not wrong about any of it, nor am I banging misinformation (but if she's cute I'll take a hummer?) - the Dallas PD aren't liars - their source seems to have been wildly misinformed.

 

Yes...you are wrong when you continue to say the Dallas PD stated the report was not true.

 

3. The question of whether he tried to harm himself was addressed by TO at the presser. He was out of it, having an adverse reaction to the medication. He was asked a lot of things all at once - I can imagine it was a hectic scene. He stated that he was answering one person and not the question of trying to harm himself. You're like a focking bulldog on a soupbone on this one, and you continue to selectively believe whatever lets you bash on Owens or me respectively. The fact is that he didn't try to harm himself, and the hospital wouldn't have let him go if he had. He was out practicing that day, and there's absolutely no evidence of an attempted suicide other than the misguided statements of an ambulance driver.

 

It was addressed...so he did answer yes to the question. So the report on that is true...despite your continued lies that the police have said the report was untrue. And, considering he did say such a thing...and it was included in the report...this is not a "non-story" as you were saying it was. It was a story...the media reported it as such...a possible attempted suicide. What they got wrong was calling it an attempted suicide in headlines...thought the substance of what they discussed was correct.

 

I have actually agreed that I believe TO in this...that I am not faulting him, nor do I believe he tried to kill himself. His publicist screwed the pooch though is what it is looking like...yet you want to blame the media.

 

Selectively believe? That is exactly what you are doing. Selectively believing the publicist rather than the facts of the matter so far.

 

I am not claiming there is evidence of an attempted suicide. I am saying the misguided statements have come from the "publicist" and not the paramedic....

 

Get a focking clue already. The truth is out and yet here you are, still leading the bandwagon of the "suicidal TO" - which makes no sense anyway as he's such a narcissist - and people that filled with self love generally do not kill themselves. who else would gaze lovingly at the bust of him in his hallway if he weren't around to do it?

 

You continue to lie and deny the facts yet you want me to give you a clue?

Fact...I am not leading a bandwagon of the suicidal TO...since early yesterday have not even taken a stance that he was trying to kill himself. Maybe you should actually read what people write before jumping to conclusions.

 

 

Get a clue Sho - you were wrong about this one. The initial police report has been debunked by TO, the oublicist AND THE POLICE THEMSELVES. I posted the link to that on page 2. Do I really need to keep posting it for you to finally accept that the police made a mistake in reporting it? At least they were big enough to admit it....ESPN & others still haven't said that they were wrong to leap to conclusions and report everything without verification. But the cops themselves have made a public statement that the official report is what they gave at the press conference, and that the initial report is not accurate. If that's not good enough for you, then you're obviously to busy with your own agenda to consider reality.

 

I am correct about this one. The intial police report was that of a possible attempted suicide. That has not been debunked by TO. He did answer that question yes...thus far it does appear his publicist did say such things despite her denial...the police have not debunked it...they have said they cannot confirm or deny things and that the report was not intended to get out at that point.

 

You need to quit posting it...because you are posting complete falsehoods. No matter how many times you are told so and shown things...you still post it.

 

ESPN was not wrong in how they reported the incident...they went with the information they had...which was a police report...which despite your continued lies has not been debunked nor even denied by the Dallas PD.

 

Reality is this.

1. TO did say yes when asked if he was trying to hurt himself...only later...much later did he explain the whole being out of it and not knowing what he was answering.

and I believe him...despite your attempts to say that I am claiming he tried to kill himself.

2. TO's publicist appears to be inconsistent in her statements. She states she never said anything about 30 pills...yet, if that is the case...why did TO have to explain why she would have thought that because the pills were in another drawer?

3. The police have not debunked their own report...the press conference, which I just listened to again, very clearly stated they could not confirm or deny what was in the report.

[BMoney 0]

Does your family think you are as worthless as your post indicates? Well, actually, I'm sure they don't. They live right there in your trash pit with you, so, nahh...they probably think your an alright sort of guy.

 

 

what are you babbling about? you must have him on your ff roster

 

i dont wish pain on ANYONE..but this guys a first rate punk....he said he tried to harm himself but he cant even do THAT right he wasted the time of dallas finest and then accused them of lying....my parents were in law enforcement...theres no respect for people like TO...

 

 

yeah, IM the bad guy....

[Sho Nuff 720]

So there Scooter...now that the 911 call has been released are you ready to back down a bit on your BS?

[football_scooter 0]

So there Scooter...now that the 911 call has been released are you ready to back down a bit on your BS?

 

I haven't heard it, nor likely will I because it's irrelevant and I'm done with this, as stated.

 

what his PR chick said and what happened seem to be two different things. She thought he took 30 pills. Obviously he didn't or he actually would have had his stomach pumped.

 

Time to move on. It's not all TO all the time. I'll reserve my judgement of the man for when he steps on the field on Sunday, because that's what I care about: FOOTBALL. And if TO is playing football, great - I'll either applaud or scowl at his game. I am so done with TO off the field it's not funny. And this whole thing should never, ever have gone this far this fast.

 

On that we'll have to agree to disagree I suppose, but really, I'm done. I said it 4 hours ago and I meant it. No mo TO. If he starts, I will start him in the league I have him in, and if he don't, I won't - and that's the extent of my caring about TO for the forseeable future.

 

Look at the bright side...we won't as much.

 

Cheers.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I haven't heard it, nor likely will I because it's irrelevant and I'm done with this, as stated.

 

what his PR chick said and what happened seem to be two different things. She thought he took 30 pills. Obviously he didn't or he actually would have had his stomach pumped.

 

Time to move on. It's not all TO all the time. I'll reserve my judgement of the man when he steps on the field on Sunday, because that's what I care about: FOOTBALL. And if TO is playing football, great - I'll either applaud or scowl at his game. I am so done with TO off the field it's not funny. And this whole thing should never, ever have gone this far this fast.

 

On that we'll have to agree to disagree I suppose, but really, I'm done. I said it 4 hours ago and I meant it. No mo TO. If he starts, I will start him in the league I have him in, and if he don't, I won't - and that's the extent of my caring about TO for the forseeable future.

 

Look at the bright side...we won't as much.

 

Cheers.

 

 

So you lied again...hmmm just a little while ago you had this to say...

This will be my last post on the matter.

 

 

Its irrelevant though? It completely tears a whole in your story...but here you go...

 

"I think he took too many pills," she told a paramedic. "Please. Now. ... What do I do if the pills are down the throat?"

 

Just part of it...but you get the picture. That is from the tape...seems like the report was right to call it a possible attempted suicide...as was every media report taking facts from the police report.

 

We now know obviously he did not take that many...but that does not negate the fact that she quite possibly told the paramedics that...which is why it was in the report that way. Obviously also why he had to later explain whyshe may have thought that. Again, blowing a huge hole in your BS that the report had been debunked...and your claim that you have been 100% right and I have been 100% wrong.

 

I have reserved my judgement on him. I actually have said he is not the issue here at this point.

 

You, however, have not reserved your judgement on the media and the intial police report...which you have proven to be completely and utterly wrong about...so now you want to move on...

 

Big thing...you simply cannot admit that you were wrong...so you want to run away.

 

 

Or can you say

OWNED!!!!!

[The Next Generation 10]

I'm done with this

 

I'll bet, after writing War & Peace in defense of a total loon you must be exhausted.

[MDC 7,437]

This is why Philly fans are all lumped together, as you said everyone was saying it at the office.

 

I think we both know this guy doesn't have to even come close to these type of measures, to as you say keep the cameras focused on him, he has the full attention of the media regardless. I find it a bit laughable you as a Eagles fan have the nerve to question any owner/GM for signing Owens, as your brass did the same thing under the same warning from Niners fans that you ignored cause you wanted to get over the hump. The Philly fans were kissing his ass in 04 and after the SB. The last fanbase in the world who should be mocking Jerry Jones for signing Owens is the Eagles fans.

 

This story has huge holes in it, and I don't beleive it is on Owens one bit, more like the Dallas PD, the national media, and a EMS worker who I beleive should be sued due to a piss poor account on his/her part of the Q&A taken place with TO. I mean, if the guy was out of it like the woman said at the PC, then he could have said Yes to anything. TO is a lot of things, but never has he shown that he doesn't take care of his body, and to speculate he crammed tons of pills down his throat knowing the huge nationwide reaction this would open up warrants legal action.

 

Yeah everyone was saying it at the office. Owens threw the QB and the Eagles organization under the bus and turned the team into a media circus for a year for no reason other than to feed his out of control ego. You know what? I'm absolutely loving watching him disgrace another team. Philly made a mistake when they signed him. Owens is a very talented player but he's a total headcase and a selfish ass hole to the core. I'm getting a lot of laughs watching him disgrace the Cowboys with his bizarre, weirdass behavior.

 

Far as the rest of your post, give me a break. I don't know exactly what happened - no one does. But I do know it's really unlikely that Owens would have an "allergic reaction" to generic pain medication and natural supplements to the point that he was so out of it he can't remember what he was saying, AND the Dallas PD and EMS were in some kind of conspiracy to make him look bad. My guess is that Owens really is depressed and accidently OD'd on something and now his handlers are in full spin mode trying to control the damage.

 

Fortunately, he's got a legion of Grade A suckers like you to swallow whatever sh1tburger he pinches off. The guy is a total embarassment and from watching Parcells in press conferences you can tell the coach doesn't want him and the Cowboys already regret their investment. Too bad they're stuck with his sh1t for another two years!

[Sho Nuff 720]

Yeah everyone was saying it at the office. Owens threw the QB and the Eagles organization under the bus and turned the team into a media circus for a year for no reason other than to feed his out of control ego. You know what? I'm absolutely loving watching him disgrace another team. Philly made a mistake when they signed him. Owens is a very talented player but he's a total headcase and a selfish ass hole to the core. I'm getting a lot of laughs watching him disgrace the Cowboys with his bizarre, weirdass behavior.

 

Far as the rest of your post, give me a break. I don't know exactly what happened - no one does. But I do know it's really unlikely that Owens would have an "allergic reaction" to generic pain medication and natural supplements to the point that he was so out of it he can't remember what he was saying, AND the Dallas PD and EMS were in some kind of conspiracy to make him look bad. My guess is that Owens really is depressed and accidently OD'd on something and now his handlers are in full spin mode trying to control the damage.

 

Fortunately, he's got a legion of Grade A suckers like you to swallow whatever sh1tburger he pinches off. The guy is a total embarassment and from watching Parcells in press conferences you can tell the coach doesn't want him and the Cowboys already regret their investment. Too bad they're stuck with his sh1t for another two years!

 

 

For the record...the police are calling it an accidental OD.

 

From his words...it seems appropriate after he talked about getting treatment...taking a few pills...taking more pills with his supplements. Probably had a few too many without realizing it and that is some powerful stuff...ask Favre.

[football_scooter 0]

So you lied again...hmmm just a little while ago you had this to say...

Its irrelevant though? It completely tears a whole in your story...but here you go...

Just part of it...but you get the picture. That is from the tape...seems like the report was right to call it a possible attempted suicide...as was every media report taking facts from the police report.

 

We now know obviously he did not take that many...but that does not negate the fact that she quite possibly told the paramedics that...which is why it was in the report that way. Obviously also why he had to later explain whyshe may have thought that. Again, blowing a huge hole in your BS that the report had been debunked...and your claim that you have been 100% right and I have been 100% wrong.

 

I have reserved my judgement on him. I actually have said he is not the issue here at this point.

 

You, however, have not reserved your judgement on the media and the intial police report...which you have proven to be completely and utterly wrong about...so now you want to move on...

 

Big thing...you simply cannot admit that you were wrong...so you want to run away.

 

 

Or can you say

OWNED!!!!!

 

You're seriously out of your mind.

 

Seriously.

 

I never disputed what she said. She didn't know where the pills were. He was out of it and she thought he took them.

 

The prudent thing for the news to do would be to report it as a possible OD, then if some evidence of suicide came out - saaaaaaay, actually having taken the pills that she thought he took, then maybe, just maybe they could approach the subject of suicide.

 

So you're essentially saying that because this chick is an idiot and said something stupid, that we should ignore all subsequent evidence to the contrary. Like you know, TO NOT having tried to kill himself.

 

Now seriously - shut up already. I'm not "owned", I'm not anything - I'm just sick of your persistent misguided statements presuming to know what I think and calling me a liar at every turn.

 

The fact is that from the GETGO I said he didn't try to kill himself, that I doubted it and that I was stunned that all this reporting was out about it so fast, and lo and behold I was correct.

 

That's an indisputible fact. No matter what it might have looked like, he's not suicidal. CASE CLOSED. I don't care if his PR lady and the entire cast of Baretta say that he took 30 pills. The simple fact that he did not actually take 30 pills should be a hint that he didn't try to kill himself.

 

And if the police, ESPN and everyone like you had actually (*GASP!*) taken the time to see what the hospital said, if they pumped his stomach or if they thought he was suicidal, then holy crap I guess there wouldn't have been anything to report except what actually happened: that he accidentally OD'd on whatever the hell he took. And gee whiz, that woulda been so boring, eh?

 

This whole TO thing is played. Own that.

 

I'll bet, after writing War & Peace in defense of a total loon you must be exhausted.

 

You know, I am. I'm not even defending TO - that's the funny part. I have gained some empathy for him after dealing with Sho Nuff....if the media is anywhere near as tenacious TO's life must be a living hell.

 

Besides - do you know TO personally? No. None of us do. So let's watch him on the field and STFU about him already...myself included.

[MDC 7,437]

For the record...the police are calling it an accidental OD.

 

From his words...it seems appropriate after he talked about getting treatment...taking a few pills...taking more pills with his supplements. Probably had a few too many without realizing it and that is some powerful stuff...ask Favre.

 

Again, I've got no real idea what happened but I just flat out don't believe Owens story. I'm not a doctor but I don't buy that generic Vicodin + natural supplements would fock you up to the point where your publicist is calling 911 and you don't recall what you were saying. I also don't believe that both EMS and the Dallas PD both totally misreported what happened.

 

If I had to take a guess, I'd say that Owens was playing at being depressed for attention and maybe told his publicist or a friend that he'd taken more pills than he actually did, that person called 911 and when the story got out of hand TO and his handlers decided to cover up with this allergic reaction BS. That's just a guess, but it seems a lot more likely to me than Owens' story.

 

Either way, it's clear that TO is just loving the attention. If I were Parcells I wouldn't want him anywhere near my team. This guy is 100% selfish and a total distraction. It's not like the Cowboys didn't have a capable receiving corps and defense without him. The Cowboys are going to be a circus all year - Owens did it to Philly last year and he's doing it to Dallas right now.

[Skinny_Bastard 157]

So much hate....

So much Anger....

 

Welcome to the dark side.

[Sho Nuff 720]

You're seriously out of your mind.

 

Seriously.

 

I never disputed what she said. She didn't know where the pills were. He was out of it and she thought he took them.

 

Lying again I see...I thought you were done with it.

 

You disputed what was in the police report...caling it debunked and incorrect. That is full of it. Her own words both in the 911 call, and that of how many pills she thought he had confirm what was in that report. You still cannot admit to being wrong.

 

The prudent thing for the news to do would be to report it as a possible OD, then if some evidence of suicide came out - saaaaaaay, actually having taken the pills that she thought he took, then maybe, just maybe they could approach the subject of suicide.

 

The prudent thing would be report it as a possible OD? Yes...because people accidentally take 30 pills.

Based on that...I have no reason to believe her when she stated she never said he was depressed. Considering she has been busted in a bit of a lie thus far about how she presented things. Again, there is no reason to doubt the EMTs at this point. In addition, they had a police report stating that the man answered yes when asked if he was trying to harm himself...that is why the subject of suicide came up...why can you not see that? Are you this stubborn and will not admit to being wrong?

 

 

 

So you're essentially saying that because this chick is an idiot and said something stupid, that we should ignore all subsequent evidence to the contrary. Like you know, TO NOT having tried to kill himself.

 

Im saying, that when the media was reporting things...all they had to go on was what was in the police report...which was based on what she said. They did not have the subsequent evidence to the contrary as far as him not taking those pills. That was not cleared up until later in the day.

 

As I said, who is ignoring anything at this point...can you point out where I have been saying that he tried to kill himself?

 

 

 

Now seriously - shut up already. I'm not "owned", I'm not anything - I'm just sick of your persistent misguided statements presuming to know what I think and calling me a liar at every turn.

 

You are owned...by the fact that you claimed to be done with this, the fact that you claimed to be 100% correct and claimed I have been 100% wrong...when the exact opposite is true.

 

You are a liar...I have proven as much several times now. Perhaps you should just admit you were wrong rather than trying to insult me.

 

 

The fact is that from the GETGO I said he didn't try to kill himself, that I doubted it and that I was stunned that all this reporting was out about it so fast, and lo and behold I was correct.

 

From the get go you said this was a non-story. Again, what do you expect any reporters would do about any high profile athlete with a police report in front of them stating he had a large amount of pills and admitted to trying to harm himself? Seriously...do you expect them to just sit back and say nothing?

 

Saying he did not try to kill himself is the only thing you have gotten right. And at the time...you were completely guessing because of this persona that TO puts out there...did you ever stop to think that all of that is a show? How many people before have been so into themselves out front...but deep down are not the strong confident person inside? It has happened before. You guessed...and got one part right. But along the way said many things that you got completely wrong...and then lied about much of what you were saying.

 

 

That's an indisputible fact. No matter what it might have looked like, he's not suicidal. CASE CLOSED. I don't care if his PR lady and the entire cast of Baretta say that he took 30 pills. The simple fact that he did not actually take 30 pills should be a hint that he didn't try to kill himself.

 

Dude...WHERE are you getting that I am trying to say he tried to kill himself? I am defending the media for treating it as a possible suicide attempt because along the way that is how things were laid out..from her words, to the police report...and even his story when he finally started to clear things up has holes in it. But that is besides the point. Quit trying to paint this as me saying he was trying to...and realize what I disagree with you on is your complete bashing of the media coverage and how you called this a non-story and your subsequent lies.

 

 

And if the police, ESPN and everyone like you had actually (*GASP!*) taken the time to see what the hospital said, if they pumped his stomach or if they thought he was suicidal, then holy crap I guess there wouldn't have been anything to report except what actually happened: that he accidentally OD'd on whatever the hell he took. And gee whiz, that woulda been so boring, eh?

 

The police were on the scene...had a 911 call with someone saying he had taken too many pills asking how to get them out of his mouth. Had a man stating that he tried to harm himself. We did not find out til much later that he did not have his stomach pumped or that he did not attempt to kill himself. Much later. And if you expect the police in that case...or the media to not report what was going on...you are as crazy as lil Kim.

 

 

This whole TO thing is played. Own that.

You know, I am. I'm not even defending TO - that's the funny part. I have gained some empathy for him after dealing with Sho Nuff....if the media is anywhere near as tenacious TO's life must be a living hell.

 

Besides - do you know TO personally? No. None of us do. So let's watch him on the field and STFU about him already...myself included.

 

After dealing with me? Because I have been so hard on TO? You really need to get a clue if you think that. I have been quite consistent in treating this for what it was and placing the blame on his publicist...despite your continued attempts to paint me as some sort of TO basher.

 

But keep replying...you become a liar again each time you do.

 

Again, I've got no real idea what happened but I just flat out don't believe Owens story. I'm not a doctor but I don't buy that generic Vicodin + natural supplements would fock you up to the point where your publicist is calling 911 and you don't recall what you were saying. I also don't believe that both EMS and the Dallas PD both totally misreported what happened.

 

If I had to take a guess, I'd say that Owens was playing at being depressed for attention and maybe told his publicist or a friend that he'd taken more pills than he actually did, that person called 911 and when the story got out of hand TO and his handlers decided to cover up with this allergic reaction BS. That's just a guess, but it seems a lot more likely to me than Owens' story.

 

Either way, it's clear that TO is just loving the attention. If I were Parcells I wouldn't want him anywhere near my team. This guy is 100% selfish and a total distraction. It's not like the Cowboys didn't have a capable receiving corps and defense without him. The Cowboys are going to be a circus all year - Owens did it to Philly last year and he's doing it to Dallas right now.

 

What Im saying is he had too many Vic's...by the sound of him saying he had some pills...then took some more with his supplements. Not on purpose...just as a was in pain after working out and therapy that day...took a few extra thinking things were fine. Got a bit loopy.

 

Your second paragraph is a possibility...one that nobody will ever know.

[omarkal 0]

From someone who started this thread, its time to move on folks. The story is over and done with. T.O does like attention and thats exactly what this thread has lead to. I think this thread should be removed and we all need to move on. Appreciate all the responses and views.

[BradtheBold 0]

Again, I've got no real idea what happened but I just flat out don't believe Owens story. I'm not a doctor but I don't buy that generic Vicodin + natural supplements would fock you up to the point where your publicist is calling 911 and you don't recall what you were saying. I also don't believe that both EMS and the Dallas PD both totally misreported what happened.

 

I am a doctor and I also wonder what "supplements" would interact with opiates. It is mainly narcotics, sedatives, and alcohol that potentiate the sedative and respiratory deoressant effects of opiates. We'll never know what he took.

 

I also agree that EMS or Dallas PD were not out of line in initially calling this a "suicide attempt." In fact they seem to have done their jobs as required.

 

TO overdosed. He overdosed on a combination of hydrocodone and substances we will never know. He was in such a bad state that Ethridge was clearly terrified for him when she called 911.

 

In cases of overdose the EMTs and ER staff must ask if the patient was attempting to harm themselves. Why? A suicidal patient must be under constant observation in the ER to prevent them from further harming themselves while under medical care.

 

TO answered "Yes" to the "were you trying to harm yourself" question. He was from then on treated as a suicide attempt. This was the only option for the medical personel at that point.

 

TO sobered up and recanted. He was discharged because he clearly had a support system in place(entourage,team etc). This all seems perfectly routine to me.

 

For those that want to bust the police and EMTs for taking seriously the statements of a clearly non-sober TO, you should instead feel sorry for those guys.

 

It is an unfortunate part of their day to day jobs that they must take seriously the rants and raves of every drunk, drugged up, or otherwise loony person they come into contact with. All while trying to protect or save the persons life. If you are drunk and threatening yourself or others, they don't have the option of thinking "this guys not serious, it's just the pills talking."

 

So the police and EMTs were both justified and obligated to initialy treat this like a suicide attempt. That IMO also makes the press justified in initially reporting it as such.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I am a doctor and I also wonder what "supplements" would interact with opiates. It is mainly narcotics, sedatives, and alcohol that potentiate the sedative and respiratory deoressant effects of opiates. We'll never know what he took.

 

I also agree that EMS or Dallas PD were not out of line in initially calling this a "suicide attempt." In fact they seem to have done their jobs as required.

 

TO overdosed. He overdosed on a combination of hydrocodone and substances we will never know. He was in such a bad state that Ethridge was clearly terrified for him when she called 911.

 

In cases of overdose the EMTs and ER staff must ask if the patient was attempting to harm themselves. Why? A suicidal patient must be under constant observation in the ER to prevent them from further harming themselves while under medical care.

 

TO answered "Yes" to the "were you trying to harm yourself" question. He was from then on treated as a suicide attempt. This was the only option for the medical personel at that point.

 

TO sobered up and recanted. He was discharged because he clearly had a support system in place(entourage,team etc). This all seems perfectly routine to me.

 

For those that want to bust the police and EMTs for taking seriously the statements of a clearly non-sober TO, you should instead feel sorry for those guys.

 

It is an unfortunate part of their day to day jobs that they must take seriously the rants and raves of every drunk, drugged up, or otherwise loony person they come into contact with. All while trying to protect or save the persons life. If you are drunk and threatening yourself or others, they don't have the option of thinking "this guys not serious, it's just the pills talking."

 

So the police and EMTs were both justified and obligated to initialy treat this like a suicide attempt. That IMO also makes the press justified in initially reporting it as such.

 

Bingo...though one person here will disagree with you...and say you are full of hate....

[BradtheBold 0]

Bingo...though one person here will disagree with you...and say you are full of hate....

 

Well I am, but it's mainly focused on those little stickers they put on apples these days.

[football_scooter 0]

Well I am, but it's mainly focused on those little stickers they put on apples these days.

[rebooters 1]

Why? What could you possibly be afraid of to do the 2 for 1 sig bet? I told you my reason, what's yours?

not afraid. so you gonna do this for the oct 8th game or not? eagles are gonna get owned sucka.

[Vince44 205]

If I had to take a guess, I'd say that Owens was playing at being depressed for attention and maybe told his publicist or a friend that he'd taken more pills than he actually did, that person called 911 and when the story got out of hand TO and his handlers decided to cover up with this allergic reaction BS. That's just a guess, but it seems a lot more likely to me than Owens' story.

 

Owens doesn't need the attention, he is one of five guys ESPN covers 24/7. The guy's saving grace has always been the incredible physical shape he keeps himself in year round, he is a health freak in every sense of the word. Owens wasn't looking for attention, but if he was as you insist he wouldn't let it be believed he was absuing his body.

 

I don't know how you can say the allergic reaction was BS, didn't Parcells say the morning before that he had a bad reaction to the pain killers? I think so.

[sirensong 111]

bump to take my lumps on scrip repackaging.

 

after making a few calls and some emails to several of the pharms i'd spoken to earlier, it turns out that they were talking about "repackaging in such a way as to indicate intent to redistribute", and i misunderstood.

 

my apologies--i was wrong.

[omarkal 0]

After all the hype, with t.o possibley trying to commit suicide, his return to philly, him mouthing off after the philly game and the fact that he is frustrated. Whats new....I guess he is now working on a new end zone dance to keep his name in the news. Mark my words, we havent heard the end of T.O and the media yet.

[yostevo 0]

After all the hype, with t.o possibley trying to commit suicide, his return to philly, him mouthing off after the philly game and the fact that he is frustrated. Whats new....I guess he is now working on a new end zone dance to keep his name in the news. Mark my words, we havent heard the end of T.O and the media yet.

 

Bumping this thread doesn't help.

[D'ohmer Simpson 0]

Mark my words, we havent heard the end of T.O and the media yet.

Wow, so insightful.

[omarkal 0]

Remmember this thread , It happend couple of weeks before the Eagles vs Dall game.

Probably the most craziest thread in fantasy football today. And since this thread, how many more times T.O made more headline news, sleeping in meetings and spitting on people.

T.O is a attention ######, thats all there is to it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Remmember this thread , It happend couple of weeks before the Eagles vs Dall game.

Probably the most craziest thread in fantasy football today. And since this thread, how many more times T.O made more headline news, sleeping in meetings and spitting on people.

T.O is a attention ######, thats all there is to it.

 

Please don't bring this up again...

It will only cause a certain person or two to make claims that TO is fine...causes no problems...its only us and the media.

[Franknbeans 46]

you can't spell tool without to

[omarkal 0]

Please don't bring this up again...

It will only cause a certain person or two to make claims that TO is fine...causes no problems...its only us and the media.

 

Buddy, people here know that i dont bump my threads, infact even on this thread with 350 responses, i probably have 6 or 7 total. There was a thread earliar that was talking about T.O and i figured this would be an important thread to bring up since sooo many on this site responded and they can review what their opinion was back then to what it should be now.

Its the last week of fantasy football SB's unless there are some that are playing week 17. Thought i would end this season with a reflection of one of the greatest wr to play the game.

 

Cheers and happy holidays to all.

[RLLD 4,231]

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