Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 27, 2006 And after all the hate-filled wishful thinking/speculation, at the end of the day someone ought to point out that the underlying news here is that TO will likely be back on the field playing just 2 weeks after having a metal plate surgically implanted in his hand for his broken bones. That's one tough SOB. I have long posted my distain for Owens off-field antics on this forum, but I try to take care and mention how much I respect his game on the field. Sad that some can't seperate the two. Also sad that Eagles fans are such bitter biatches (in general...I know a few of you who aren't) Dude...get off it...very little on here was very hate filled...there was some...but not as much as you want to make it out to be. Speculation? You have been guilty of that as well. This has nothing to do with just Eagles fans.... I doubt he plays at Tennessee...I doubted that before today's news anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roroco 75 Posted September 27, 2006 Seriously... Who in the 30s separates pills??? Not like these are regular dosage pills either. They are take-as-needed pills. I don't believe a single thing he says now. I believe one of the 3 1) He did try to kill himself...and his handlers are correctifying his a$$ 2) This is a very extreme way of getting more attention...which is very sad. 3) The kid is just plain stupid... And there is NO logic to this entire scenerio. I hope people are not buying the supplement overdose lie... {creatine does not kill wrestlers} Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 27, 2006 Seriously... Who in the 30s separates pills??? Not like these are regular dosage pills either. They are take-as-needed pills. I don't believe a single thing he says now. I believe one of the 3 1) He did try to kill himself...and his handlers are correctifying his a$$ 2) This is a very extreme way of getting more attention...which is very sad. 3) The kid is just plain stupid... And there is NO logic to this entire scenerio. I hope people are not buying the supplement overdose lie... {creatine does not kill wrestlers} 1. is not plausible at this point because of Owens release and current condition. He may have stated he took more than he actually did...nobody knows this but the publicist but at this point I think we can rule out he actually tried to. 2. I do not believe a guy would do that...not even owens. 3. possible...but the logic I see is this. Owens reacted the mix of pills and possibly a few too many of the pain killers. His publicist reacted to him being non-responsive and did the right thing calling 911. where she apparently messed up is in some of what she may have said...now, it could also be that the paramedics embellished part of her story...but it is one of the two that really messed this whole thing up...and the 911 tape would clear that up. He was taken to the hospital where they examined him and determined he had not OD'd and he became "sober" enough to explain what happened. She is now trying to cover up her errors...or the paramedics are a bit messed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,428 Posted September 27, 2006 Got to admit, when I first heard the news at work everyone in my office was cracking jokes about throwing aspirin at him when he comes to Philly or how we should send him a noose, etc. Then I thought about it a little and now I honestly feel sorry for the guy. To be so weird and desperate for attention that you'd stage a suicide attempt and then have your publicist cover up for you is beyond pathetic. In a way it's even worse than if Owens DID try to commit suicide. At least then you'd write it off as clinical depression. As it is now the guy is just an out of control narcissist who'll do anything to keep the cameras and the focus on him. Owens is injured so he can't get positive validation on the field - might as well concoct a bizarre story to keep yourself in the headlines for another day. I'm sure Parcells is thrilled they brought TO in. Just what they needed - an oft-injured 32-year-old #2 receiver who keeps all the attention on himself and distracts the team. Nice going Jerry Jones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Dude...get off it...very little on here was very hate filled...there was some...but not as much as you want to make it out to be. look below your post, idiot. Speculation? You have been guilty of that as well. Uhm, no - I was guilty of pointing out the inconsistencies, and of telling everyone to wait until the press conference. My only speculation was to point out that narcisists rarely commit suicide. He loves him some me, remember? This has nothing to do with just Eagles fans.... I didn't say it did - but if you look through the topic, with just a couple of exceptions the harshest and most ignorant posts are from the Eagles fans, who are obviously having a little bit of trouble letting things go with TO. I doubt he plays at Tennessee...I doubted that before today's news anyway. why would you doubt that? Before all this happened, the last news reported was that Owens was going to practice this week and Parcells said if he can catch the ball without pain, he'd play. Man, sometimes I think you argue just to see yourself post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 27, 2006 look below your post, idiot. Uhm, no - I was guilty of pointing out the inconsistencies, and of telling everyone to wait until the press conference. My only speculation was to point out that narcisists rarely commit suicide. He loves him some me, remember? I didn't say it did - but if you look through the topic, with just a couple of exceptions the harshest and most ignorant posts are from the Eagles fans, who are obviously having a little bit of trouble letting things go with TO. why would you doubt that? Before all this happened, the last news reported was that Owens was going to practice this week and Parcells said if he can catch the ball without pain, he'd play. Man, sometimes I think you argue just to see yourself post. Again...one post does not prove your point about this being hate filled..."idiot". You were guilty of jumping immediately to his defense...with your own bit of speculation even to the point where you continue to lie about what was in the police report. Actually, Ive read the thread...and Eagles fans are no more representative here than any other type of fan than they are on the main board...pretty representative of the population on the board...and you are one to talk about people being ignorant given you still think some things were not in the police report.... Why would I doubt it? Because it is a game they can win without him...because it would be a grander stage for him to make his comeback in Philly. Your last line...funny given how you post here and the type of crap you like to spew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Again...one post does not prove your point about this being hate filled..."idiot". No, but it's a pretty good example of irony. and the posts saying they wished he'd died and whatnot were also excellent in terms of showing you up/proving you wrong. You were guilty of jumping immediately to his defense... And I was 100% correct - let's not leave that important bit out. with your own bit of speculation even to the point where you continue to lie about what was in the police report. Link? Look back on pages 1-2. I posted links and produced quotes from the news articles to support my contentions. The police posted a report based on the ambulance driver's eyewitness testimony, which was initially posted as a police account. They then recanted it. Facts, all. I haven't "lied" once. Either back that sh!t up or go fock yourself. Seriously. No wonder Mobb Deep thinks you're a tool. Actually, Ive read the thread...and Eagles fans are no more representative here than any other type of fan than they are on the main board...pretty representative of the population on the board...and you are one to talk about people being ignorant given you still think some things were not in the police report.... Once again, I can prove my statements beyond a shadow of a doubt. The things you are referring to were in the initial police report. I never denied that. But the fact is that the police reported that said report was bogus. In their press conference they also made reference to the initial report, and said it was not to be considered an official statement. How stupid are you to think that didn't matter and to continue to harp on the initial report, even after the publisher of that report has recanted it? Why, pretty focking stupid. Why would I doubt it? Because it is a game they can win without him...because it would be a grander stage for him to make his comeback in Philly. Ah, but that's just your projections about TO being a media wh0re that make you think that way. It probably never even occurred to you that the Cowboys need TO to win, and that TO wants to be out there helping his team win. No, it's all about TO in the spotlight to you. Hold back one of your best players so he can make a grander entrance on the big stage in Philly. There's that stupid acting up again. How sad for you to go through life like that. There is a cure for ignorance...it's called school. Look into it. Your last line...funny given how you post here and the type of crap you like to spew. wow - really got me there. What a zinger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted September 27, 2006 this is a long thread tl;dr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Striker99 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Can anyone give us a solid timeline of events regarding this story about TO...so many damn posts....I just want facts and information..... anyone ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted September 28, 2006 wow i guess i missed all the action around here..... funny how you guys have been here since 8 am goin crazy about this....who would actual believe someone taking 35 pills and living or even 20 pain killers for that matter... and im sure he wouldnt just leave in a SUV if he just attempted suicide?.. I listened in on espn radio and wondered why everyone thought suicide thin was true..given they believed the 30 pill and him leaving thing, I dont know how you could think it was true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melvinbet 5 Posted September 28, 2006 I call bullsh1t. Good call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheeseAndWhine 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I hate the media. They're still reporting "Owens denies suicide attempt," which "suicide attempt" was a creature of their own sensationalist reporting. The story should be, "Owens has allergic reaction to pain medication, media thinks sky has fallen." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mackgee 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Regardless of who I am a fan of, I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone who commits suicide, a-hole. The only time I would have some sort of sympathy is for someone with a debilitating condition who is in constant pain with no chance of coming out of it. Suicide is the coward's way out. End of story. No one gives a ###### what you think. wait until someone you know commits suicide and i'm sure your mind will change. So you would have sympathy for someone with a debilitating condition killing thmeselves. Well idiot depression is a debilitating condition that the sufferer feels that there is no chance of coming out of. You are an idiot. End of story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 28, 2006 No, but it's a pretty good example of irony. and the posts saying they wished he'd died and whatnot were also excellent in terms of showing you up/proving you wrong. The ironic part would be you thinking it proved something after I had just said there were some (acknowleding there was) but it did not dominate as you were making it out to be. There were very few posts about wishing he would die...notice I and several others took that poster to task... And I was 100% correct - let's not leave that important bit out. Not totally, but you can keep thinking that. Link? Look back on pages 1-2. I posted links and produced quotes from the news articles to support my contentions. The police posted a report based on the ambulance driver's eyewitness testimony, which was initially posted as a police account. It was originally given to the media as a police report. They then recanted it. Facts, all. What they recanted was that it was not their people do discoverd those things but the paramedics. At no time have they proven the paramedic to be wrong, nor even stated as such. I haven't "lied" once. Either back that sh!t up or go fock yourself. Seriously. No wonder Mobb Deep thinks you're a tool. Testy testy...mobb deep is a disturbed individual who felt the need to twice insult large sections of this country...went down a path on his own...was called on it...and made himself out to be an idiot in several threads...including this one...and was owned by a woman at that...not to mention the Bears killed his lions...then the Packers finished the job. You siding with someone like that, only shows how little you have left to hold on to. As for proving something? Some people would prefer to believe the 2nd hand information of an ambulance driver over listening to the man himself. Ok...lie is pushing it on that one...however, a police report, that is later admitted as not coming from the police but never denied it was from the paramedic is not just some BS story...it happened. As for listening to the man himself...I did...I listened to him agree that when asked if he was going to harm himself (which is what was stated in that police report, that he did in fact say yes. However, he stated he was not sure what he was answering and was not quite with it. I notice you continue to just gloss over that little tidbit and still want to blast the media. but here is the lie... Oh, and everyone can stop saying the police reported it as a suicide - that was all BS based on the paramedic talking to the media. The police did report it as an attempted suicide and later blacked that portion out. It was not BS based on the paramedic talking to the media...it was based on the media being given the police report. TO does not even deny what was said...just that it is not what he meant. Once again, I can prove my statements beyond a shadow of a doubt. The things you are referring to were in the initial police report. I never denied that. But the fact is that the police reported that said report was bogus. In their press conference they also made reference to the initial report, and said it was not to be considered an official statement. How stupid are you to think that didn't matter and to continue to harp on the initial report, even after the publisher of that report has recanted it? Why, pretty focking stupid. Ah, but that's just your projections about TO being a media wh0re that make you think that way. It probably never even occurred to you that the Cowboys need TO to win, and that TO wants to be out there helping his team win. No, it's all about TO in the spotlight to you. Hold back one of your best players so he can make a grander entrance on the big stage in Philly. There's that stupid acting up again. How sad for you to go through life like that. There is a cure for ignorance...it's called school. Look into it. wow - really got me there. What a zinger. You can prove what? Not with any factual basis you cannot. You never denied that? Up above your quoted information from another thread does deny such a thing. They did not report that it was bogus...they reported that it was not them who took the statement. How stupid are you to not know the difference. Why have you yet to admit that TO himself did not deny what was said about him saying yes to that question? To is a media ######...there is no denying that. But that has nothing to do with me believing that the entire thing is all cleared up because of that press conference. Too much inconsistency in the whole thing. Im sure he does want to be out there. And have not problem with that. Hold back the best player because he is coming off of a major injury, because he was already having reactions to the medication...and now because of this. Nothing stupid about it. How sad for you to go through your life insulting everyone who disagrees with you...no matter how many facts they have on their side that you wish to deny. School...maybe you should go to one and learn something...though, myself and others have been taking you to school for some time...I think its in session again...ding ding. I hate the media. They're still reporting "Owens denies suicide attempt," which "suicide attempt" was a creature of their own sensationalist reporting. The story should be, "Owens has allergic reaction to pain medication, media thinks sky has fallen." A. it was a creature of his publicist and a police report being leaked to the media. B. it was not just an allergic reaction. It appears to have been due to a mixture of his pain medication (possibly even in a larger dose than was intended) and his other supplements that made him incoherent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBOKOP 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Link to report if not yet posted: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0927061owens1.html Regardless of the opinions afterwards you have to look at the facts. He intentionally committed an act which risked his life. The biology, and the contents pumped from his stomach will show that he took too many pills. Aside from the admission of taking the pills and wanting to harm himself, the act itself is enough. He should have been detained for at least 72 hours for a mental health evaluation. Whatever his EXCUSE now might be, he still committed the actual act of an overdose, which legally is enough for an emergency detention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted September 28, 2006 The ironic part would be you thinking it proved something after I had just said there were some (acknowleding there was) but it did not dominate as you were making it out to be. There were very few posts about wishing he would die...notice I and several others took that poster to task... Not totally, but you can keep thinking that. It was originally given to the media as a police report. What they recanted was that it was not their people do discoverd those things but the paramedics. At no time have they proven the paramedic to be wrong, nor even stated as such. Testy testy...mobb deep is a disturbed individual who felt the need to twice insult large sections of this country...went down a path on his own...was called on it...and made himself out to be an idiot in several threads...including this one...and was owned by a woman at that...not to mention the Bears killed his lions...then the Packers finished the job. You siding with someone like that, only shows how little you have left to hold on to. As for proving something? Ok...lie is pushing it on that one...however, a police report, that is later admitted as not coming from the police but never denied it was from the paramedic is not just some BS story...it happened. As for listening to the man himself...I did...I listened to him agree that when asked if he was going to harm himself (which is what was stated in that police report, that he did in fact say yes. However, he stated he was not sure what he was answering and was not quite with it. I notice you continue to just gloss over that little tidbit and still want to blast the media. but here is the lie... The police did report it as an attempted suicide and later blacked that portion out. It was not BS based on the paramedic talking to the media...it was based on the media being given the police report. TO does not even deny what was said...just that it is not what he meant. You can prove what? Not with any factual basis you cannot. You never denied that? Up above your quoted information from another thread does deny such a thing. They did not report that it was bogus...they reported that it was not them who took the statement. How stupid are you to not know the difference. Why have you yet to admit that TO himself did not deny what was said about him saying yes to that question? To is a media ######...there is no denying that. But that has nothing to do with me believing that the entire thing is all cleared up because of that press conference. Too much inconsistency in the whole thing. Im sure he does want to be out there. And have not problem with that. Hold back the best player because he is coming off of a major injury, because he was already having reactions to the medication...and now because of this. Nothing stupid about it. How sad for you to go through your life insulting everyone who disagrees with you...no matter how many facts they have on their side that you wish to deny. School...maybe you should go to one and learn something...though, myself and others have been taking you to school for some time...I think its in session again...ding ding. A. it was a creature of his publicist and a police report being leaked to the media. B. it was not just an allergic reaction. It appears to have been due to a mixture of his pain medication (possibly even in a larger dose than was intended) and his other supplements that made him incoherent. How long did it take you to seperate every sentence into individual quotes? Is there really that little to do in BFE Tennessee that you're going to spend a half hour disecting scooter's post? Then you want to drag me back into this, as if whether or not The Lions win or lose is some sort of relfection on my sense of self. Oh noes my football team sucks so I'm going to eat 30 vicodin's! I guess it's just another example of how important insignifigant things are when you live in the sticks. Do you really think I care if some people on the bored don't like me? Here's a tip, I won't lose any sleep over it and I sure as hell won't take the time to seperate your posts into individual quotes. Fortunately most people realize it's all in good fun and don't throw a temper tantrum like you do daily. Furthermore, I can say whatever the hell I want about the mid-west or Texas because I've lived in both of them! It's no secret that Texas is bassackwards, and places like Detroit and St Louis are the most crime and drug riddled cities in the USA. Not to mention the weather is absolutely unbearable to top it all off. It's no different then you talking smack about the Lions because they indeed do suck, and you've witnessed them sucking. You're just getting all butthurt because it's the truth and you're a big crybaby. I am sorry that my honosty offends you though. That's why I left this thread so you and scooter could sword fight. Then you want to bring my name back up and fish me back into this. Why don't you just make a point of keeping my name off your little tongue and I'll oblige the same for you. I really don't have the energy to argue with you anymore. Argue with scooter instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CheeseAndWhine 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Regardless of the opinions afterwards you have to look at the facts. He intentionally committed an act which risked his life. The biology, and the contents pumped from his stomach will show that he took too many pills. Aside from the admission of taking the pills and wanting to harm himself, the act itself is enough. He should have been detained for at least 72 hours for a mental health evaluation. Whatever his EXCUSE now might be, he still committed the actual act of an overdose, which legally is enough for an emergency detention. You intentionally commit an act that risks your life every time you cross a street. We KNOW he took too many pills, but if he took them because the two supplement pills reacted badly with a pain pill and made him delirious and unaware of his surroundings, it adequately explains both his taking of more pills and his monosyllabic answers to paramedics, probably asked in the midst of a frantic situation during which he's stoned out of his mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 How long did it take you to seperate every sentence into individual quotes? Is there really that little to do in BFE Tennessee that you're going to spend a half hour disecting scooter's post? Then you want to drag me back into this, as if whether or not The Lions win or lose is some sort of relfection on my sense of self. Oh noes my football team sucks so I'm going to eat 30 vicodin's! I guess it's just another example of how important insignifigant things are when you live in the sticks. Do you really think I care if some people on the bored don't like me? Here's a tip, I won't lose any sleep over it and I sure as hell won't take the time to seperate your posts into individual quotes. Fortunately most people realize it's all in good fun and don't throw a temper tantrum like you do daily. Furthermore, I can say whatever the hell I want about the mid-west or Texas because I've lived in both of them! It's no secret that Texas is bassackwards, and places like Detroit and St Louis are the most crime and drug riddled cities in the USA. Not to mention the weather is absolutely unbearable to top it all off. It's no different then you talking smack about the Lions because they indeed do suck, and you've witnessed them sucking. You're just getting all butthurt because it's the truth and you're a big crybaby. I am sorry that my honosty offends you though. That's why I left this thread so you and scooter could sword fight. Then you want to bring my name back up and fish me back into this. Why don't you just make a point of keeping my name off your little tongue and I'll oblige the same for you. I really don't have the energy to argue with you anymore. Argue with scooter instead. You know, this pretty much said it all. Maybe we could start arguing and exclude Sho Nuff? Anyway, I'm over it all. I knew this was bogus from the word "go!" - and to my utter amazement, this whole thing has actually endeared me to Owens a bit, because I can almost understand how the media in Philly & SF could drive him to some of the bizarre behaviour he's exhibited. I feel for Owens on this one, because here's a guy who got sick, and went to the hospital just like 1,000s of people a day do, but he has to go through this shiat over it. ESPN had experts on talking about his focked up childhood and how he might be bipolar and all these professional ananysts based on the erroneus report that he tried to kill himself. If anyone here was subjected to that because they took medication and got sick, you'd freak out. I tip my cap to Owens - he came out smiling and made his statements without throwing anyone under the bus. He never said an unkind word about the police for reporting in error what the ambulance driver said...he never blasted the media for psycho-analyzing him in front of the whole damn world. No - Owens came out and reassured people that he was fine, that he practiced, and that he's trying to get back on the field. What do people want from him, blood? I am liking Owens more and more this season - he's handling the worst of the worst living every step under a magnifying glass, and doing so with a smile. Playing hurt and staying out of trouble. I have zero problem with Owens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyChick 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Yah I've dated a paralegal before too. She also claimed she was a lawyer. You're jokes today Sho. Hmmm what am I. I'm a pro football player. I'm Terrel Owens, no wait I'm Tom Landry! Keep talking Mobb, someday you'll say something intelligent. Some things in life are certain, Taxes Death Being screwed by a lawyer. Now I'll give you a nice, shiny quarter if you'll go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Link to report if not yet posted: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0927061owens1.html Regardless of the opinions afterwards you have to look at the facts. He intentionally committed an act which risked his life. The biology, and the contents pumped from his stomach will show that he took too many pills. Aside from the admission of taking the pills and wanting to harm himself, the act itself is enough. He should have been detained for at least 72 hours for a mental health evaluation. Whatever his EXCUSE now might be, he still committed the actual act of an overdose, which legally is enough for an emergency detention. This isn't true. He took the right amount of pills, and they reacted badly with other things he was taking. The report on TSG is the initial report, which the police themselves have stated is inaccurate. The official police report is the statements they made this afternoon. They never pumped his stomach, and they wouldn't have let him go if he was suicidal. You said it yourself - 72 hours. So let me see if I understand you correctly - despite reports that he did in fact not overdose, and because they let him go, you assume that he's suicidal? Funny - I took the opposite opinion of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted September 28, 2006 Keep talking Mobb, someday you'll say something intelligent. Some things in life are certain, Taxes Death Being screwed by a lawyer. Now I'll give you a nice, shiny quarter if you'll go away. Whatever, you know it's making you moist. Big bad mobb_deep is such an a-hole. Omg I think I'm going to cream. You're a chick and chicks love to argue. Quit acting like your feelings are hurt. I like Chicago anyways. It's Probably my favorite city in the entire mid-west, especially in the fall. I'd rate Chicago a 9 out of 10 vicodin's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyChick 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Now you said something intelligent. Funny even. You're all right................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 28, 2006 How long did it take you to seperate every sentence into individual quotes? Is there really that little to do in BFE Tennessee that you're going to spend a half hour disecting scooter's post? Then you want to drag me back into this, as if whether or not The Lions win or lose is some sort of relfection on my sense of self. Oh noes my football team sucks so I'm going to eat 30 vicodin's! I guess it's just another example of how important insignifigant things are when you live in the sticks. Do you really think I care if some people on the bored don't like me? Here's a tip, I won't lose any sleep over it and I sure as hell won't take the time to seperate your posts into individual quotes. Fortunately most people realize it's all in good fun and don't throw a temper tantrum like you do daily. Furthermore, I can say whatever the hell I want about the mid-west or Texas because I've lived in both of them! It's no secret that Texas is bassackwards, and places like Detroit and St Louis are the most crime and drug riddled cities in the USA. Not to mention the weather is absolutely unbearable to top it all off. It's no different then you talking smack about the Lions because they indeed do suck, and you've witnessed them sucking. You're just getting all butthurt because it's the truth and you're a big crybaby. I am sorry that my honosty offends you though. That's why I left this thread so you and scooter could sword fight. Then you want to bring my name back up and fish me back into this. Why don't you just make a point of keeping my name off your little tongue and I'll oblige the same for you. I really don't have the energy to argue with you anymore. Argue with scooter instead. Not very long really...its not a complicated process to use the little quote buttons. BFE? Nashville is not really BFE...but thanks for spewing more of your ignorance...you have added so much to this thread. Drag you into it? Ummm...he brought you up there genius...like him, you need a little help with facts. Temper tantrum? You blasted the midwest...complained that they talked about you first...were shown you were full of it...made some outlandish statements you could not back up about the game, bragged about yourself...and then have basically disappeared after you were owned by a girl. Crime and drug riddled...yeah...LA is such a great place...no drugs out in Cali right? Crybaby? Nope...constantly killing people like you in debates is not being a crybaby...this type of post from you sure is though. Your honesty...I call it ignorance. He brought your name into it moron...get it right. So, why don't you just point that little shot at scooter...rather than at me.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Whatever, you know it's making you moist. Big bad mobb_deep is such an a-hole. You are kind of an a-hole...gotta admit. It's all part of your charm though. So, why don't you just point that little shot at scooter...rather than at me.... no........NO......... NO! Anything but that! Sho, I am so looking forward to winning our sig bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 28, 2006 You know, this pretty much said it all. Yes...it most certainly does prove how ignorant he is...and that you agree with it pretty much shows how ignorant you are. Maybe we could start arguing and exclude Sho Nuff? Go ahead...then maybe one of you would be right for once. Anyway, I'm over it all. I knew this was bogus from the word "go!" - and to my utter amazement, this whole thing has actually endeared me to Owens a bit, because I can almost understand how the media in Philly & SF could drive him to some of the bizarre behaviour he's exhibited. Yeah...you just knew the publicist was behind it the whole time...that is why you blamed the media and lied about the police report. Then stated you did not lie...then it was shown to you that you indeed did...now you deflect, do not respond to my post...and instead start stating how you were so right. I feel for Owens on this one, because here's a guy who got sick, and went to the hospital just like 1,000s of people a day do, but he has to go through this shiat over it. I feel for him that his publicist felt the need to embellish the story and that it got leaked the way it did. But no...he did notjust go to the hospital like so manydo per day. How may of those 1000s have a police report leaked to the media and a publicist getting things a bit messed up? ESPN had experts on talking about his focked up childhood and how he might be bipolar and all these professional ananysts based on the erroneus report that he tried to kill himself. If anyone here was subjected to that because they took medication and got sick, you'd freak out. I tip my cap to Owens - he came out smiling and made his statements without throwing anyone under the bus. He never said an unkind word about the police for reporting in error what the ambulance driver said...he never blasted the media for psycho-analyzing him in front of the whole damn world. He is a high profile athleted who has been psycho analyzed because of his past actions. And no...there is no error yet shown in what the ambulance drive said...so you can quit spreading yet another lie. I am liking Owens more and more this season - he's handling the worst of the worst living every step under a magnifying glass, and doing so with a smile. Playing hurt and staying out of trouble. I have zero problem with Owens. The magnifying glass is there because he put it there...no other reason. This isn't true. He took the right amount of pills, and they reacted badly with other things he was taking. The report on TSG is the initial report, which the police themselves have stated is inaccurate. The official police report is the statements they made this afternoon. They never pumped his stomach, and they wouldn't have let him go if he was suicidal. You said it yourself - 72 hours. So let me see if I understand you correctly - despite reports that he did in fact not overdose, and because they let him go, you assume that he's suicidal? Funny - I took the opposite opinion of it. They have not stated it was inaccurate...just that they did not take the statements. Owens does not even say it was inaccurate as far as him answering yes when he was asked if he was trying to harm himself. Why do you continue to ignore that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted September 28, 2006 Not very long really...its not a complicated process to use the little quote buttons. BFE? Nashville is not really BFE...but thanks for spewing more of your ignorance...you have added so much to this thread. Drag you into it? Ummm...he brought you up there genius...like him, you need a little help with facts. Temper tantrum? You blasted the midwest...complained that they talked about you first...were shown you were full of it...made some outlandish statements you could not back up about the game, bragged about yourself...and then have basically disappeared after you were owned by a girl. Crime and drug riddled...yeah...LA is such a great place...no drugs out in Cali right? Crybaby? Nope...constantly killing people like you in debates is not being a crybaby...this type of post from you sure is though. Your honesty...I call it ignorance. He brought your name into it moron...get it right. So, why don't you just point that little shot at scooter...rather than at me.... I'm kind of busy with FantasyChick right now. Would you mind calling back later? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 28, 2006 You are kind of an a-hole...gotta admit. It's all part of your charm though. no........NO......... NO! Anything but that! Sho, I am so looking forward to winning our sig bet. Its even right now... though, you all look better than we have so far... But you have to admit...it was you who brought up mobb...not me....though facts are not his strong suit (nor yours for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Its even right now...though, you all look better than we have so far... But you have to admit...it was you who brought up mobb...not me....though facts are not his strong suit (nor yours for that matter. calmer than you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyChick 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I'm kind of busy with FantasyChick right now. Would you mind calling back later? Didn't anyone tell you that you wanted to sleep with me all along?!?! I thought you knew..... Now we know that it is romance brings out the beast in you -- the jackass. All in good fun......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted September 28, 2006 i dont believe that someone who lacks the courage to go over the middle without pulling his arms in.. would actually have the courage to do what he shouldve done...take his life.... 1 a days....nice try, Grandma Poopshoot... all over a break up involving his gay lover, drew rosenhaus and the death of his over lover, anna nicoles son... get over it, TO...try again.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted September 28, 2006 i dont believe that someone who lacks the courage to go over the middle without pulling his arms in.. would actually have the courage to do what he shouldve done...take his life....1 a days....nice try, Grandma Poopshoot... all over a break up involving his gay lover, drew rosenhaus and the death of his over lover, anna nicoles son... get over it, TO...try again.... Sorry Sho Nuff...Nothing but love in this here topic. Whatever was I thinking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted September 28, 2006 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...er.2e6991d.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROBOKOP 0 Posted September 28, 2006 This isn't true. He took the right amount of pills, and they reacted badly with other things he was taking. The report on TSG is the initial report, which the police themselves have stated is inaccurate. The official police report is the statements they made this afternoon. They never pumped his stomach, and they wouldn't have let him go if he was suicidal. You said it yourself - 72 hours. So let me see if I understand you correctly - despite reports that he did in fact not overdose, and because they let him go, you assume that he's suicidal? Funny - I took the opposite opinion of it. Why exactly would the police type an inaccurate initial report? They didnt exactly make the stuff up. Everything that is being done after the fact is damage control being done by a guy with a lot of money. Whatever, believe what you want to believe, its not a criminal offense and its not going to hold him down from playing football whether or not he tried to off himself. THe fact is what we have known all along is that he is emotionally unstable. As ar as his broken finger, receiver Donald Driver, who joined the Packers in 1999, estimates he’s had three broken fingers and seven sprained fingers from Favre’s throws. You dont hear him missing games because of it. I think TO has some chronic vaginitis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 205 Posted September 28, 2006 Got to admit, when I first heard the news at work everyone in my office was cracking jokes about throwing aspirin at him when he comes to Philly or how we should send him a noose, etc. Then I thought about it a little and now I honestly feel sorry for the guy. To be so weird and desperate for attention that you'd stage a suicide attempt and then have your publicist cover up for you is beyond pathetic. In a way it's even worse than if Owens DID try to commit suicide. At least then you'd write it off as clinical depression. As it is now the guy is just an out of control narcissist who'll do anything to keep the cameras and the focus on him. Owens is injured so he can't get positive validation on the field - might as well concoct a bizarre story to keep yourself in the headlines for another day. I'm sure Parcells is thrilled they brought TO in. Just what they needed - an oft-injured 32-year-old #2 receiver who keeps all the attention on himself and distracts the team. Nice going Jerry Jones. This is why Philly fans are all lumped together, as you said everyone was saying it at the office. I think we both know this guy doesn't have to even come close to these type of measures, to as you say keep the cameras focused on him, he has the full attention of the media regardless. I find it a bit laughable you as a Eagles fan have the nerve to question any owner/GM for signing Owens, as your brass did the same thing under the same warning from Niners fans that you ignored cause you wanted to get over the hump. The Philly fans were kissing his ass in 04 and after the SB. The last fanbase in the world who should be mocking Jerry Jones for signing Owens is the Eagles fans. This story has huge holes in it, and I don't beleive it is on Owens one bit, more like the Dallas PD, the national media, and a EMS worker who I beleive should be sued due to a piss poor account on his/her part of the Q&A taken place with TO. I mean, if the guy was out of it like the woman said at the PC, then he could have said Yes to anything. TO is a lot of things, but never has he shown that he doesn't take care of his body, and to speculate he crammed tons of pills down his throat knowing the huge nationwide reaction this would open up warrants legal action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vince44 205 Posted September 28, 2006 I was at that game. Irving had actually came over to the fans and was cursing out one fan and taunting others during pregame. Even Irving admitted that he was causing problems at the vet that day. At one point security told the dallas bench to keep their players on the sideline. That is why people at the vet cheered. Not a good reason, but look at the reaction to Owens situation from people outside of philly. It is very similar. Oh, and who were the fans throwing iceballs at the coaches and actually hurt somebody. NY. Yeah well, how accurate can your account be when you can't even spell his name right? I am sure seeing him for a decade, you would have noticed the name on the back of his jersey. I don't care if Irvin came over and threw some verbal jabs, and knowing the Philly fans I am so sure they were innocent and not one tried to engage him right? The facts are he wasn't moving and was in a neck brace, at some point you have to be human's 1st and not crazy die hard fans who were jealous of the Boys championship success with Irvin as the emotional leader and mouthpeice of the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted September 28, 2006 Sorry Sho Nuff...Nothing but love in this here topic. Whatever was I thinking. For some reason you took that serious? A few questions for you..... 1. What would you expect the media to do if they are handed a police report where (insert star player's name here) was quoted as saying yes, when asked if he was trying to harm himself? 2. Do you believe this Kim chick is really his publicist given her inability to speak very well to the media. A man of his "statue"? The screw up by saying he has 25 million reasons to want to be alive...like only poor people get depressed? 3. Also with the "publicist"...and I do believe she did the right thing to call 911 when he was drugged as he was...but...if she really did not say the things the paramedics said she did, and she was not worried that he was trying to committ suicide (which her supposed talk to the paramedics would lead them to believe)...why would some of her first comments be that she was just happy to be sitting next to him in the press conference? If it was such a non-story, as you wanted to play it off to be, and there was nothing to it and it was all just screw ups by the paramedics....why would she have felt so happy about just having him there if there was no danger? As I said...all the true facts are still not out there...and probably never will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted September 28, 2006 Keep talking Mobb, someday you'll say something intelligent. Some things in life are certain, Taxes Death Being screwed by a lawyer. Now I'll give you a nice, shiny quarter if you'll go away. That sounds good Any pics of you on the web we can check out first? Please dont sue me for sexual herassment, it was only a joke ps: here one of me for you to check out: http://biboz.net/186-david-haselhof Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebooters 1 Posted September 28, 2006 Please, that comment was obviously based on these reports being true that he tried to commit suicide. What, do you think that had it been confirmed that he tried to commit suicide, he would have been playing against the Eagles? By the way, how is the TO won't be a distraction thing working out for all you Cowgirl fans? Sure, I'll take a sig bet for Oct 8th if you'll do it again for the x-mas game. Since I think the Cowboys will beat the Eagles on Oct 8th, but then lose at home on x-mas. It's been written on my Eagles schedule @ work since the day it came out. Make it a one month sig bet. Although since the Cowboys won't be making the playoffs, I'll want you to pay-off next year after the x-mas game. ill take the month bet. but the sig bet is for the oct. 8 game only. if you want to make another bet come xmas, then we can get to that when the time comes. for now, its oct. 8. take it or leave it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Next Generation 10 Posted September 28, 2006 ill take the month bet. but the sig bet is for the oct. 8 game only. if you want to make another bet come xmas, then we can get to that when the time comes. for now, its oct. 8. take it or leave it. Why? What could you possibly be afraid of to do the 2 for 1 sig bet? I told you my reason, what's yours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites