thePIMPmaster 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Worse than McSorely. He should be gone for this season and a good chunk of next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
football_scooter 0 Posted March 9, 2007 worst I've ever seen. a year might not be enough for that - you can kill a man like that. Stick right to the throat? He'll be lucky if charges aren't pressed against him. The local cops can charge him based on the footage alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroncoBilly 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Total cheapshot. WTF was he thinking? He got checked cleanly into the boards and then went left. I remember when he played for the Avalanche in 96.....he was a mean tough guy that threw some big punches.....now he is relagated to throwing his stick. Suspend him for Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 836 Posted March 9, 2007 its ok the refs and the war room in TO gave the game to the rangers as compensation. clearly that was a goal. the NHL wants the rangers in the playoffs, plain and simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted March 9, 2007 what better way to celebrate the 3 year anniversary of todd bertuzzi? bye chris simon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtodd 7 Posted March 9, 2007 This should be an easy one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 196 Posted March 9, 2007 That is some focked up sh1t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,097 Posted March 9, 2007 Worst ever? I don't know about that. it was not pre-meditated, the guy got hit into the boards, got up and cross checked the guy in the chin. Yes it was bad, but he hit him straight on. Hunter on Turgeon was much worse. Link Remember Dino Ciccarelli? he got a day in jail for slashing a player in the face. Tie Domi on Scott Neidermeyer? Pre-meditated elbow to the chin when he was skating by. Toni Granto used his stick like an axe and slashed someone in the neck/head when he was skating away. McSorely's is still the worst. Totally pre-meditated, he came on the ice looking for him, as he was skating by he slashed him in the focking temple? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Worst ever? I don't know about that. it was not pre-meditated, the guy got hit into the boards, got up and cross checked the guy in the chin. Yes it was bad, but he hit him straight on. Hunter on Turgeon was much worse. Link Remember Dino Ciccarelli? he got a day in jail for slashing a player in the face. Tie Domi on Scott Neidermeyer? Pre-meditated elbow to the chin when he was skating by. Toni Granto used his stick like an axe and slashed someone in the neck/head when he was skating away. McSorely's is still the worst. Totally pre-meditated, he came on the ice looking for him, as he was skating by he slashed him in the focking temple? good stuff... i give tony granato a pass..he had a brain tumor for heavens sake..the guy reacted to a checp shot the wrong way though... the mcsorely one was stupid..i watched this game..all he had to was tap him on the back..instead, he cracked him in the head? the hunter one makes me laugh though..as awful as it was..turgeon was a lil puzzy...but it was BAD..dont get me wrong... geee..i guess the neil hit on drury wasnt an all timer after all quit your whining, ruff, and tell drury to use the strap thats on his helmet and it wont be so bad.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted March 9, 2007 He was just trying to give the guy a whack on the pads, the stick got caught over top the the other dude's arms and deflected into his chin. complete accident, peeps are getting worked up over nothing. now if you want the worst cheap shot ever, that would be THAT MOTHER FOCKER PIECE OF SHAT CLAUDE THE FRAUDE LEPIEUX! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,097 Posted March 9, 2007 He was just trying to give the guy a whack on the pads, the stick got caught over top the the other dude's arms and deflected into his chin. complete accident, peeps are getting worked up over nothing. now if you want the worst cheap shot ever, that would be THAT MOTHER FOCKER PIECE OF SHAT CLAUDE THE FRAUDE LEPIEUX! As I stated before, it wasn't really a cheapshot. the guy just hit him and they were face to face, Claude Lemieux is another one that was much worse than this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted March 9, 2007 pic pic slam a guys face into the ledge of the boreds, hey no penalty of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted March 9, 2007 I was actually dozing a bit on the couch w/the game on when it happened. Let me tell you, THAT woke me up and got my attention. Total cheap shot. Worst one EVAH? Notsomuch, but it was pretty bad. Hollweg is lucky that his chin caught some of that or it would have been completely on his throat. As it was, Hollweg reported that he lost his hearing for a short time right after the hit. Simon will be suspended for the remainder of this season, including the playoffs. It also wouldn't suprise me if he got another 10-20 games into next season. The league office has been taking a lot of heat in the media for supposedly promoting the violence in the game. They will take advantage of this siutation to dispute that image. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,097 Posted March 9, 2007 I was actually dozing a bit on the couch w/the game on when it happened. Let me tell you, THAT woke me up and got my attention. Total cheap shot. Worst one EVAH? Notsomuch, but it was pretty bad. Hollweg is lucky that his chin caught some of that or it would have been completely on his throat. As it was, Hollweg reported that he lost his hearing for a short time right after the hit. Simon will be suspended for the remainder of this season, including the playoffs. It also wouldn't suprise me if he got another 10-20 games into next season. The league office has been taking a lot of heat in the media for supposedly promoting the violence in the game. They will take advantage of this siutation to dispute that image. Longest suspension ever has been 23 games. you think THAT is going to get him the rest of the year and into next year? No focking way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted March 9, 2007 I'm not an advocate for involving the law in sporting events because I think you knowingly give up some of your normal rights as a citizen to play in a physical sport. I don't like to hear the argument "If I were on a street corner and I were punched" yada yada. It's not the same. Accidents happen and even vicious hits/blows are to be expected in sports on a daily basis. However, at some point you have to draw a line IMO, this situation is the type that you do. The man had intent to injure and he also used his stick as a weapon to accomplish that. Just because the man wasn't paralyzed or forced to end his career doesn't mean the act wasn't criminal. If I drive drunk and kill someone, I'd get charged with vehicular manslaughter. If I was sober and it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that I deliberately targeted someone on the sidewalk to mow down and kill. I would be charged with murder. The car was my weapon. In the first instance I'm negligent. In the 2nd, I have intent and I believe that's where this scenario has elevated the punishment and it has to be dealt with criminally. The thing, where even I admit to being hypocritical, is that fighting is a part of hockey and I do think it's a necessary part of it. Is there intent to injure? You could certainly say that. Are hands considered a weapon? That's debatable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted March 9, 2007 pic pic slam a guys face into the ledge of the boreds, hey no penalty of course I asked you this before but was ignored. Why are you a Red Wings/Cowboys fan? Bandwagon much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Longest suspension ever has been 23 games. you think THAT is going to get him the rest of the year and into next year? No focking way. As I said, he will be suspended for the rest of this season (the NYI have 15 regular season games left), including playoffs and I wouldn't be suprised if he got another 10-20 games next season because the league has been getting flack for allegations that they are promoting violence and will want to make a token gesture to combat that image. A second-rate player/enforcer on the downside of his career is the perfect patsy for the league. The NHL is fighting for all the good press they can get these days, since ESPN pretty much ignores them now that they don't televise the games. I don't think past suspensions can be used as a 100% guide b/c it's a different league w/different problems than before the lockout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saturday Night Beaver 2 Posted March 9, 2007 its ok the refs and the war room in TO gave the game to the rangers as compensation. clearly that was a goal. the NHL wants the rangers in the playoffs, plain and simple. They did not give the game to the Rangers. The call was no goal. The replay review has to be conclusive and it was not. The whole puck has to cross the line. It was too hard to tell, so no reversal. Simon is a punk. Always has been, always will be. This hit came on the 3yr anniversary of Bertuzzi's hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,097 Posted March 9, 2007 I'm not an advocate for involving the law in sporting events because I think you knowingly give up some of your normal rights as a citizen to play in a physical sport. I don't like to hear the argument "If I were on a street corner and I were punched" yada yada. It's not the same. Accidents happen and even vicious hits/blows are to be expected in sports on a daily basis. However, at some point you have to draw a line IMO, this situation is the type that you do. The man had intent to injure and he also used his stick as a weapon to accomplish that. Just because the man wasn't paralyzed or forced to end his career doesn't mean the act wasn't criminal. If I drive drunk and kill someone, I'd get charged with vehicular manslaughter. If I was sober and it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that I deliberately targeted someone on the sidewalk to mow down and kill. I would be charged with murder. The car was my weapon. In the first instance I'm negligent. In the 2nd, I have intent and I believe that's where this scenario has elevated the punishment and it has to be dealt with criminally. The thing, where even I admit to being hypocritical, is that fighting is a part of hockey and I do think it's a necessary part of it. Is there intent to injure? You could certainly say that. Are hands considered a weapon? That's debatable. Yeah. They should start arresting batters that charge the mound too. You can't fight in a bar, why can you fight on a baseball field! There is plenty of intent to injure! Better yet, next time a pitcher is blatently throwing at a batter, he should go to jail, you can't throw a baseball at a person on the street! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yostevo 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Yeah. They should start arresting batters that charge the mound too. You can't fight in a bar, why can you fight on a baseball field! There is plenty of intent to injure! Better yet, next time a pitcher is blatently throwing at a batter, he should go to jail, you can't throw a baseball at a person on the street! I do think fighting is a part of sports. I think I mentioned that. If the batter decided to turn the pitcher's face into a pile of crushed skull pieces with his bat, I'd think we'd have a problem there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2007 Worst ever? I don't know about that. it was not pre-meditated, the guy got hit into the boards, got up and cross checked the guy in the chin. Yes it was bad, but he hit him straight on. Hunter on Turgeon was much worse. Link Remember Dino Ciccarelli? he got a day in jail for slashing a player in the face. Tie Domi on Scott Neidermeyer? Pre-meditated elbow to the chin when he was skating by. Toni Granto used his stick like an axe and slashed someone in the neck/head when he was skating away. McSorely's is still the worst. Totally pre-meditated, he came on the ice looking for him, as he was skating by he slashed him in the focking temple? What? Obviously you have said some ignorant things in your time here...see below...but his might take the cake. A. That was not a crosscheck...that was a stick to the face...more of a slash. B. Not premeditated? He got up from a clean check...sized up the guy, and whacked him in the face. How much more premeditated can it be. C. You reference Granto...what did Simon just do...chopped his stick like an axe in the face of an oncoming scater.... As I stated before, it wasn't really a cheapshot. the guy just hit him and they were face to face, Claude Lemieux is another one that was much worse than this. How is whacking a guy in the face as he turns to skate towards you not a cheapshot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swirvenirvin 25 Posted March 9, 2007 With his history, he might be gone for a long tim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,097 Posted March 9, 2007 HEREEEEEE I COME, I LOVE YOU! ask me to marry you already, jesus, focking freak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2007 ask me to marry you already, jesus, focking freak. Im a freak because you continue to say stupid things? yeah...I guess it was me that invited you into a thread about the NFC North "feuds" and forced you at gunpoint to comment about me right? Stop saying idiotic things, and I will stop pointing out what an ignorant douche you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 479 Posted March 9, 2007 LOL at one of the comments: halomademepoor (7 minutes ago) hockey is so gay (Reply) (Spam) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foghorn Leghorn 0 Posted March 9, 2007 This was pretty brutal, especially considering Simon is so big that he doesn't need to use his stick to inflict bigtime damage on someone. Now here's what I think was the worst - Alexander Perezhogin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyGj9g2Y9nE It's kind of grainy, but to summarize: Perezhogin gets taken down, then gets up and takes a baseball-style swing at the guy's head. IIRC, he was suspended from the AHL for one year (someone correct me if that's wrong). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,097 Posted March 9, 2007 Im a freak because you continue to say stupid things? yeah...I guess it was me that invited you into a thread about the NFC North "feuds" and forced you at gunpoint to comment about me right? Stop saying idiotic things, and I will stop pointing out what an ignorant douche you are. hey stalker, it's my OPINION. smarten up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FranksTanks 0 Posted March 9, 2007 He was just trying to give the guy a whack on the pads, the stick got caught over top the the other dude's arms and deflected into his chin. complete accident, peeps are getting worked up over nothing. now if you want the worst cheap shot ever, that would be THAT MOTHER FOCKER PIECE OF SHAT CLAUDE THE FRAUDE LEPIEUX! Weren't you the one on here beating your chest and starting threads about Carmello and how he needed to be suspended for the season after his cheap shot? Now you are going to try to defend this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2007 hey stalker, it's my OPINION. smarten up. And its ignorant and ridiculous and should be mocked. Stalker? Nice whine for a guy who is just pissed his foolishness keeps getting pointed out. If you can go a week without saying something so ridiculously stupid or I don't notice it...I will remove that from my sig (its there now just because of your continued whining about me stalking). I doubt you will be able to do it though. But its very telling you cannot even answer questions about your post. How was it not premeditated? How was it a cross check when he hacked at him with his stick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 9, 2007 I cannot defend my own ignorance, so instead I will just keep playing up this foolish manlove/stalker thing and hope that it might all go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mephisto 15 Posted March 9, 2007 Hunter on Turgeon was much worse. Link I remember watching that game when it happened. I'm a Flyers fan, but also a huge hockey fan and certainly back then couldn't get enough of watching hockey. That year, I was certain that Islanders were going to go deep into the playoffs, perhaps making a run at the Stanley Cup. Even today, I'm convinced that Dale Hunter's hit which resulted in Turgeon breaking his leg cost the Islanders their shot at the Cup that year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riddlen 1 Posted March 9, 2007 good ol hockey. no one gives a crap till someone breaks a stick over another dudes head Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted March 9, 2007 Longest suspension ever has been 23 games. When I read this, I was pretty sure you had no idea what you were talking about. Now I KNOW you have no idea what you are talking about. McSorley was suspended for the final 23 games in the 2000 season for knocking out Brashear with a swinging stick. The ban was extended until February 2001 by Bettman, and McSorley never played in the NHL again. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/hock...s.ap/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted March 9, 2007 if this wasnt cyber world, edjr and sho nuff wouldve hit each other with sticks by now... ted nolan is REALLY close to simon..and simon does so much good stuff off of the ice..but that wont help him here... too bad the NHL suits are too stupid to let people know about cheechoo and simon being part of the ted nolan foundation.... maybe chris is back on the bottle? pic pic slam a guys face into the ledge of the boreds, hey no penalty of course i cant believe i shook his friggen hand that was the ONE time that i thought there would be a full out brawl AFTER a game...dino couldve dropped calude right there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted March 9, 2007 if this wasnt cyber world, edjr and sho nuff wouldve hit each other with sticks by now... ted nolan is REALLY close to simon..and simon does so much good stuff off of the ice..but that wont help him here... too bad the NHL suits are too stupid to let people know about cheechoo and simon being part of the ted nolan foundation....maybe chris is back on the bottle? i cant believe i shook his friggen hand that was the ONE time that i thought there would be a full out brawl AFTER a game...dino couldve dropped calude right there... That alone should give them a pass or 2 a year to hit whoever they want over the head with their stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,097 Posted March 9, 2007 When I read this, I was pretty sure you had no idea what you were talking about. Now I KNOW you have no idea what you are talking about. NHL release on the Marty McSorley suspension:By The Canadian Press NHL executive vice-president and director of hockey operations Colin Campbell today announced that Marty McSorley of the Boston Bruins has been suspended for at least the balance of the 1999-2000 season, including playoffs. McSorley, who is in the last year of his current contract, will be required to meet with commissioner Gary Bettman prior to the commencement of next season. The suspension is the longest in League history for an on-ice incident. McSorley was assessed a match penalty under Rule 52 (Deliberate Injury of Opponent) for striking Vancouver Canucks forward Donald Brashear on the head with his stick at 19:57 of the third period of NHL Game #835, Feb. 21, at Vancouver. A hearing pursuant to Rule 33A (Supplementary Discipline) was scheduled for 10 a.m. today. A representative of the Boston Bruins was present. McSorley elected not to appear at or participate in the hearing. Campbell, after considering the available evidence, made the above-referenced ruling. Said Campbell, "We have determined that, since the underlying facts of the incident as depicted on videotape are clear, we are comfortable that the penalty that has been imposed, at minimum, is appropriate to address Mr. McSorley's conduct." Should McSorley desire a review by the Commissioner of this determination, one would be scheduled. Said Campbell, "Mr. McSorley's act is entirely unacceptable. It would be grossly unfair to suggest that his conduct is at all representative of the game, of the other 700 players who play in the NHL or of the countless others who play hockey at all levels. We regret that this act occurred and that it has brought this kind of attention to our game." McSorley will miss the Bruins' remaining 23 regular-season games and all playoff games. Based on the value of his contract and under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, McSorley will forfeit $72,000. The money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund. McSorley was suspended for the final 23 games of last season and could miss as many as 80 if he resumes playing. Which he never did. Hence 23 game suspension. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blitzen 1 Posted March 9, 2007 This was pretty brutal, especially considering Simon is so big that he doesn't need to use his stick to inflict bigtime damage on someone. Now here's what I think was the worst - Alexander Perezhogin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyGj9g2Y9nE It's kind of grainy, but to summarize: Perezhogin gets taken down, then gets up and takes a baseball-style swing at the guy's head. IIRC, he was suspended from the AHL for one year (someone correct me if that's wrong). Yep, one full year. He just got a concussion from a puck to the haid by one of his own players so I guess that's a bit of bad karma for him. I'm a Habs fan and I think he prolly shouldn't have been allowed to play again. He could have killed the guy. Just goes to show you how lucky Simon/Hollweg were that he didn't hit him full on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BMoney 0 Posted March 9, 2007 That alone should give them a pass or 2 a year to hit whoever they want over the head with their stick. thats not what Im saying... Im just pointing out that no one outside of hockey knows what good a lot of these guys do... these awful acts cant be tolerated..it was a separate point...all we will hear is..that guy is a thug etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAS 2 Posted March 9, 2007 thats not what Im saying... Im just pointing out that no one outside of hockey knows what good a lot of these guys do... these awful acts cant be tolerated..it was a separate point...all we will hear is..that guy is a thug etc... I know what you are saying, it's just that the "espn hockey fan" who sees this guy time and again pulling this crap could care less that he is working hand in hand with Mother Theresa, they only see/know that this "thug" just assaulted some dude with his stick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites