The Chargers are over-rated

[TD Ryan2 316]

I can't stand those "classy" Chargers but...

• The Chargers went 14-2 in 2006, and won the West by five full games.
  
• They lost their two games by three points each.
  
• They led the league in scoring margin.
  
• They will have more or less the same squad in 2007.
  
• Their defensive Leader (Merriman) will not be suspended for the 1st 4 games
  
• They face NINE inexperienced QB
  

Since the advent of the 16-game schedule in 1978, there have been 17 teams with 14 or more wins.

Of those teams, 12 won the division the next season (71%) and two more won 10 games.

 

* 1979 Steelers (12-4)

* 1984 Redskins (11-5)

* 1985 Dolphins (12-4)

* 1985 49ers (10-6) made playoffs

* 1986 Bears (14-2)

* 1987 Giants (7-8, strike season)

* 1987 Bears (11-4, strike season)

* 1990 49ers (14-2)

* 1991 49ers (10-6)

* 1993 49ers (10-6)

* 1999 Broncos (6-10)

* 1999 Falcons (5-11)

* 1999 Vikings (10-6)

* 2002 Rams (7-9)

* 2004 Patriots (14-2)

* 2005 Patriots (10-6)

* 2005 Steelers (11-5)

* 2006 Colts (12-4)

[Dr. Octopus 0]

defense is all we ever had in the 90s. Sure it got us to the playoffs a lot, but that was about it

 

They did have the top scoring offense in the NFL last season. I suppose their offense will be non-existent this year, correct?

[cmh6476 1,025]

They did have the top scoring offense in the NFL last season. I suppose their offense will be non-existent this year, correct?

 

 

put a corner on gates and 8 in the box

[Da Bomb 0]

i didnt read this whole thread, but i agree with the premise. the chargers have a lot of talent but its not going to amount to a lot of wins this year. they traded in one retread head coach whos never won the big game for another, and in the process they lost an entire brilliant young assistant coaching staff. and its going to cost them this year. i say 8-10 wins, fighting for and probably missing a playoff birth. denver is the class of this division this year.

[Dr. Octopus 0]

put a corner on gates and 8 in the box

 

Gee, why didn't teams call you up last year?

[cblue 0]

put a corner on gates and 8 in the box

 

 

Wow! What a revalation! I am suprised that in 3 years, no professional coach has thought of that.

Denver has tried that with C. Bailey and that hasn't worked.

[cblue 0]

Didnt they open up the payroll with Turner as the HC in Washington? He showed it then he can't handle the big time.

 

Ya, the overpaid for the likes of an old Bruce Smith and a one- legged D. Sanders. Pretty much everyone they spent the big bucks on was WAY past their prime. I think they even paid L. Coles a huge sum of money because they thought he was going to be a superstar.

[Guest _my_2_cents_]

Wow! What a revalation! I am suprised that in 3 years, no professional coach has thought of that.

 

[Guest JahRasta311]

put a corner on gates and 8 in the box

yea and then Vincent Jackson will beat you all day. you're a fuckin fool. how about we make a sig bet for who gets more wins, SD or your beloved Chiefs.

[Me_2006 14]

yea and then Vincent Jackson will beat you all day. you're a fuckin fool. how about we make a sig bet for who gets more wins, SD or your beloved Chiefs.

I think a better bet would be whether or not Merriman has more sacks than the Chiefs score points next year.

[Watchdog 0]

Look at a list of coaches who do the worst at hold 4th quarter leads, and Norv Turner's name shows up as #3. The Chargers are very talented, but with Turner coaching, I think 11-5 is a ceiling, not a worst case scenario.

[hyness 0]

Sure that defense is solid, maybe one of the better D's in the game. But defense is only going to win you so many games.

 

Cough...2000 Baltimore Ravens, 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs, Super Bowl Champs...Cough!

[Foghorn Leghorn 0]

While I'm not sure the Chargers will go 14-2 again (the battle for home field in the AFC should be fun to watch), I see no reason why they won't repeat as AFC West champs. Their offence should be Top 3 again, and their O-Line could be even better this year than they were last year. Also, Philip Rivers gained some valuable playoff experience in that game against the Pats last year.

 

A lot of focus seems to be on their various coaching changes, but there's another question that doesn't seem to have been asked yet. How will the Chargers' defence play without Donnie Edwards this year? He's been a key cog the last few years (especially last year) and will not be easily replaced. If they can find an adequate replacement for Edwards, it would go a long way in helping their Super Bowl chances. But the question is, can they?

[cblue 0]

While I'm not sure the Chargers will go 14-2 again (the battle for home field in the AFC should be fun to watch), I see no reason why they won't repeat as AFC West champs. Their offence should be Top 3 again, and their O-Line could be even better this year than they were last year. Also, Philip Rivers gained some valuable playoff experience in that game against the Pats last year.

 

A lot of focus seems to be on their various coaching changes, but there's another question that doesn't seem to have been asked yet. How will the Chargers' defence play without Donnie Edwards this year? He's been a key cog the last few years (especially last year) and will not be easily replaced. If they can find an adequate replacement for Edwards, it would go a long way in helping their Super Bowl chances. But the question is, can they?

 

I hated to see Edwards go, but he is not a complete LB. He is sort of one demensional. What I mean is, he is not a run stuffer, his strengths by far was in pass coverage. Just about anybody else would be an improvement against the run, but few will match his coverage skills.

 

So, I don't think he is a big loss. Well, not as big as one would think.

[Yippie Skippy 0]

yea and then Vincent Jackson will beat you all day.

 

Let me know the first time Vincent Jackson beats anyone all day. I am amazed that he was ever able to separate his thumb from his mouth as a child.

 

While the Chargers have a good defense, they do not have a dominant defense capable of carrying their team to a SB victory.

 

IMO:

Turner is over-rated as a head coach

Rivers is over-rated as a QB

Vincent Jackson is a pathetic #1 WR and is the most over-rated faction in the Chargers.

[Guest JahRasta311]

Look at a list of coaches who do the worst at hold 4th quarter leads, and Norv Turner's name shows up as #3. The Chargers are very talented, but with Turner coaching, I think 11-5 is a ceiling, not a worst case scenario.

When Turner coached Washington and Oakland, did he ever have the best RB and TE in the game? Did he ever have a top 3 offensive line? Did he have any of the talent that the Chargers roster is brimming with?

 

I'm tired of these comparisons, no amount of coaching can turn shit into gold or gold into shit.

[Guest JahRasta311]

Let me know the first time Vincent Jackson beats anyone all day. I am amazed that he was ever able to separate his thumb from his mouth as a child.

 

While the Chargers have a good defense, they do not have a dominant defense capable of carrying their team to a SB victory.

 

IMO:

Turner is over-rated as a head coach

Rivers is over-rated as a QB

Vincent Jackson is a pathetic #1 WR and is the most over-rated faction in the Chargers.

How can Norv Turner be overrated (one word, no hyphen) as a head coach when he has a shitty HC record and nobody says anything but bad things about him as a HC?

 

Did you even watch the Chargers play last year?

[My_Dixie_Normus 0]

i mean they hired the worst head coach in the history of the league. I don't care how many offensive weapons the team has, they are going nowhere fast.

 

sorry bout it jahrasta

 

The Chargers hired Denny Green?

[Guest JahRasta311]

The Chargers hired Denny Green?

They were who we thought they were.

[Vince44 205]

Norv is a great and well respected OC...not HC. A lot of turnover in the coaching staff with Marty, Cameron, and Phillips now gone. The roster is pretty much the same give or take a player here and there. I don't think Phil Rivers is all that and it was a joke he made the AFC Pro Bowl over Brady. The WR's are at best average and Phil isn't the type of QB who can get the most out of the talent around him. LT is going to have to be a monster again and Gates needs to play great. I see them at 10-6 and losing the very minute they play the Colts, Pats, and Ravens all teams I feel would beat SD in a playoff game. Turner has done great things for guys like Aikman/A.Smith so maybe he can help Phil live up to his potential.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

Turner isnt handling the defense

 

Last year the Chargers averaged 30+ pts a game with Martyball, now with less conservative play they could easily approach 35 pts per game, and I hardly think they will be giving up more then 20 in many games

 

13-3 put it in the bank

[Watchdog 0]

When Turner coached Washington and Oakland, did he ever have the best RB and TE in the game? Did he ever have a top 3 offensive line? Did he have any of the talent that the Chargers roster is brimming with?

 

I'm tired of these comparisons, no amount of coaching can turn shit into gold or gold into shit.

 

Turner didn't have teams with a lot of talent, but he did even worse with them than one would expect. No one's saying he'll turn gold into ######, but I can easily see him turning 14-2 into a wild card team.

[UncleHulka 0]

Actually, I'm more concerned about Cottrell than Turner. But if any team can overcome weakness at the top, this SD team can do it. I have not seen a team this talented top to bottom at every position and with depth since Dallas won it despite Switzer.

 

And while the sucky coaching may be a HUGE disadvantage, I just have to remind you that every time you see a certain chromosomally-challenged fatass dipshiit yelling BOOM and talking about turkey legs... remember that he won a Super Bowl, too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and the Chiefs will NOT make the playoffs. Without Arrowhead, they'd be the Raiders.

[cmh6476 1,025]

[Celticspride 0]

13-3 put it in the bank

 

You sure about that?

 

I don't know what happened to the Chargers, but that defense looks horrible right now. The secondary has been shredded two straight weeks.

 

Add to that that the O-Line is getting manhandled so LT has no room to run, and the Chargers are in trouble.

 

I still think they'll win the AFC West because Oakland and KC are terrible and Denver is not much better.

[donhaas 18]

You forgot Malcom Floyd. You clearly only know about your own team, so why don't you stick with your asinine predictions about them.

 

Chargers are a lock for the playoffs.

 

I'll never post here again if they don't make it.

 

You'll have more time to hang out with your boyfriends....

 

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[redtodd 7]

[Jeremy 0]

Chargers are a top 3 team in the NFL.

 

Kewl! That means the Packers are either better than the Pats or Colts. Not bad!

[cmh6476 1,025]

told ya

[Chargersin08 0]

i'd be more concerned with the raiders at this point if i were you. KC is definitely a candidate for the cellar this season.

[Chargersin08 0]

Let me know the first time Vincent Jackson beats anyone all day. I am amazed that he was ever able to separate his thumb from his mouth as a child.

 

While the Chargers have a good defense, they do not have a dominant defense capable of carrying their team to a SB victory.

 

IMO:

Turner is over-rated as a head coach

Rivers is over-rated as a QB

Vincent Jackson is a pathetic #1 WR and is the most over-rated faction in the Chargers.

[cmh6476 1,025]

i suppose I would have waited until the Chargers actually won something before I bumped this. If I were a Chargers fan, just sayin

[Chargersin08 0]

i suppose I would have waited until the Chargers actually won something before I bumped this. If I were a Chargers fan, just sayin

not necessary after how wrong you were about them.

[cmh6476 1,025]

not necessary after how wrong you were about them.

like when I said they can't win the big 1?

[RLLD 4,231]

like when I said they can't win the big 1?

 

It's greta to have you back around.....

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

It's greta to have you back around.....

Did the Weis hiring give cmh his mojo back?

[cmh6476 1,025]

not necessary after how wrong you were about them.

that's gonna leave a mark. goof.

[redtodd 7]

that's gonna leave a mark. goof.

 

Toofy!!! Email me on the side, I am will be in your neck of the woods in April.

[Raider 84 29]